Pastor Steven Anderson is a hypocrite ...

[Ladodgers6]

So am I.

I have to keep on spreading the Truth which triune god believing churches spread to the world.

Jesus says to come out of Babylon.

He is talking about pagan god believing churches and claiming to be His followers or servants.

We will know soon enough who is spreading the lies.

All of this without any mention of how to be born again. Call me or accuse me of anything, I follow Christ because he is the ONLY way, truth and the life.

John 11:25 “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, 26 and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?” 27 She said to him, “Yes, Lord; I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who is coming into the world.”

Jesus says here, whoever believes in me. Shall live, be resurrected. Can you explain this?​

 

[grace2]

All of this without any mention of how to be born again.​

I am only pointing out the obvious, friend.

It is obvious to me because I take heed of all of Jesus' word, not twisting around and making the simple teaching of Jesus so complicated.

 

[Ladodgers6]

Jesus says we know them by their fruit.

Yes. but do not these fruits come from the vine that is Christ?

He also says narrow is the gate to life and only a few find it.

Yes, and that gate is Jesus. I am the way, the truth, and the life.

Triune god believers are dismissing the fact that the triune god believing churches are one of the vast majority in the world.

So this is where you are placing your trust?

it is so clear to me how to discern who is spreading lies.

According to Jesus' wisdom, the triune god believing churches are not one of the few who know God and Jesus.

So you are basing your position because there're more Trinitarian churches than yours? And you know who is saved and who is not?

Romans 10:6 But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).​

 

[Ladodgers6]

I am only pointing out the obvious, friend.

It is obvious to me because I take heed of all of Jesus' word, not twisting around and making the simple teaching of Jesus so complicated.

You have a good day, friend. I bid you a farewell.

 

[grace2]

Yes. but do not these fruits come from the vine that is Christ?

[/QUOTE]

it is not legitimate if your faith is not Jesus-centered. Your faith is triune god centered.

Yes, and that gate is Jesus. I am the way, the truth, and the life.

[/QUOTE]
but you dont accept His word. Remember you claim God is triune. Jesus says His Father is His God.

So this is where you are placing your trust?

[/QUOTE]

Of course, I trust Jesus. that's why I take heed of all His word and twist around and changing the to God is triune.

So you are basing your position because there're more Trinitarian churches than yours?

No, I use Jesus' wisdom how to discern from what is right or wrong.

Romans 10:6 But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).​

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[/QUOTE]

Your reading does not harmonize with Jesus' word. So it isn't very sensible.

 

[grace2]

Yes. but do not these fruits come from the vine that is Christ?

Yes, and that gate is Jesus. I am the way, the truth, and the life.

So this is where you are placing your trust?

So you are basing your position because there're more Trinitarian churches than yours? And you know who is saved and who is not?

Romans 10:6 But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).​

We were talking about "born again"

Here Peter explains what it means to be born again:

1 Peter 1:23
For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.

29 If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.

We are not born again just because we claim to be so.

Jesus' word of "we know them by their fruit" is at work too.

What we practice is our fruit.

It is not about spreading the unbiblical teaching of triune god.

 

[Ladodgers6]

We were talking about "born again"

Here Peter explains what it means to be born again:



We are not born again just because we claim to be so.

Jesus' word of "we know them by their fruit" is at work too.

What we practice is our fruit.

It is not about spreading the unbiblical teaching of triune god.

Thanks, but I am not interested. Have yourself a great day.

 

[Runningman]

Not so fast. Verse states, "with the GLORY that I HAD with you before the world existed." This will not only be difficult to overcome with any argument, but impossible.

The only reference to something Jesus was doing before the world existed isn't literal. The glory Jesus had with God before the creation of the world was in God's plans and foreknowledge, but not literal. For example, Jesus wasn't crucified before the world existed even though the Bible says so. The Bible speaks about things like this that are not literal many times.

Revelation 13
8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

What man can claim equal GLORY with God?

Doesn't say it's equal glory, but nevertheless the glory Jesus had is something that could be given to the apostles. So what is glory that Jesus had before the world existed that he can also give to the apostles in Israel?

John 17
22I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one—

 

[Runningman]

This is fine, what was Jesus finally convicted of? But, again let's get more context to get a better picture here.

40 When they heard these words, some of the people said, “This really is the Prophet.” 41 Others said, “This is the Christ.” But some said, “Is the Christ to come from Galilee? 42 Has not the Scripture said that the Christ comes from the offspring of David, and comes from Bethlehem, the village where David was?” 43 So there was a division among the people over him. 44 Some of them wanted to arrest him, but no one laid hands on him.

45 The officers then came to the chief priests and Pharisees, who said to them, “Why did you not bring him?” 46The officers answered, “No one ever spoke like this man!” 47The Pharisees answered them, “Have you also been deceived? 48 Have any of the authorities or the Pharisees believed in him? 49But this crowd that does not know the law is accursed.” 50 Nicodemus, who had gone to him before, and who was one of them, said to them, 51 “Does our law judge a man without first giving him a hearing and learning what he does?” 52They replied, “Are you from Galilee too? Search and see that no prophet arises from Galilee.”

Here again they want to arrest. Even to the point of avoiding traditional fair trial. Why? Because they knew what they heard with their own ears, that Jesus was claiming he is God. And with this, come judgement of death. Exception here a course because Jesus is God incarnate.​

Wanting to skip giving someone a fair trial only speaks to how corrupt they were. One again, Nicodemus was the only one standing in contradiction to the rest of them and wanting to give him a fair trial. You even quoted the verse.

51 “Does our law judge a man without first giving him a hearing and learning what he does?”

 

[Ritajanice]

We were talking about "born again"

Here Peter explains what it means to be born again:



We are not born again just because we claim to be so.

Jesus' word of "we know them by their fruit" is at work too.

What we practice is our fruit.

It is not about spreading the unbiblical teaching of triune god.

We are Born Again in our spirit, by Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit....no one can teach us how to be Born Again....once we are Born Of God’s seed, which is a “ Living “ spirit birth, .....we then check out what was testified/ witnessed to our spirit by the Living Holy Spirit......he is the Spirit who testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.....that is by divine revelation......the Bible doesn’t bring our spirit Alive in Christ....only Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit can do that.

He witnesses Gods truth to our spirit, he also brings scripture to our understanding in our spirit.....remember we were once in this world....we are now Born Again and in the Kingdom Of God.....we have much to be taught and learn from God’s wonderful witness His Living Holy Spirit.....my testimony and belief.

It’s exciting,but, it’s also very hard being a child of the most high.....we suffer and endure much pain in our hearts/ spirit all in the Name Of Jesus.

Remember none can pluck us out of his hands......it’s been a very long hard journey.....we are spirit children therefore can only be led by the Holy Spirit.

Without Him...we know absolutely nothing and are nothing!......only he can bring the word of God to our understanding in our spirit......God is Spirit therefore communicate with him via His witness the Living Holy Spirit....our spirit learns to communicate with his Spirit........we can only be taught by Gods Living Spirit.

Then what we believe he testifies/ witnesses to our spirit....must be checked with the penned word....if what we heard isn’t there....then it wasn’t from His Spirit.

 

[grace2]

We are Born Again in our spirit, by Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit....no one can teach us how to be Born Again....once we are Born Of God’s seed, which is a “ Living “ spirit birth, .....we then check out what was testified/ witnessed to our spirit by the Living Holy Spirit......he is the Spirit who testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.....that is by divine revelation......the Bible doesn’t bring our spirit Alive in Christ....only Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit ca

What did I say any differently?

 

[Ritajanice]

What did I say any differently?

Again, I posted what I also believed....whatever the Spirit prompts me to share, it will be...that is all....he’s in my heart/ spirit testifying/ witnessing all this spiritual knowledge to my spirit.....it’s my testimony to the Power of Gods Holy Spirit.......

 

[grace2]

Again, I posted what I also believed..

You do not have to address the poster if you are only talking about the topic.

It is only a decent thing to do as a Christian.

 

[prism]

We are not born again just because we claim to be so.

True, the new birth involves a concrete change...

Ephesians 2:1-3,5 NKJV
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, [2] in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, [3] among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others. [5] even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),

2 Corinthians 5:17 NKJV
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

1 Corinthians 2:10-12 NKJV
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. [11] For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. [12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

 

[Ritajanice]

You do not have to address the poster if you are only talking about the topic.

It is only a decent thing to do as a Christian.

I have no idea what you mean.

Please don’t dictate to me on how to post and who I quote...thank you.

You for some reason are coming across as very defensive....we’re all learning you know.

 

[grace2]

I have no idea what you mean.

I am addressing your passive-aggressive tactic.

 

[Ritajanice]

I am addressing your passive-aggressive tactic.

Can you please address the topic?

Where is your maturity in Christ?

Are you a new babe by any chance?

 

[grace2]

Can you please address the topic?

I have been pointing out the dishonest claims.

 

[Ritajanice]

I have been pointing out the dishonest claims.

You have been pointing out what “ you” believe to be dishonest claims...now if you don’t mind.

Pastor Steven Anderson is A Hypocrite.....

 

[Ritajanice]

True, the new birth involves a concrete change...

Ephesians 2:1-3,5 NKJV
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, [2] in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, [3] among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others. [5] even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),

2 Corinthians 5:17 NKJV
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

1 Corinthians 2:10-12 NKJV
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. [11] For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. [12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

Yes, it’s all very well posting the penned word of God...

We also need the witness do we not?

I mean anyone can quote scripture can’t they...?...

How else would we know that God exists apart from the penned word?