Is There Equal Authority Within Trinity Doctrine?

[Rella]

No it's not.


No it doesn't

Sister,

I agree mostly with you but I think you are at a dead end.

He has a differing view then us that I discern in his reply in #37.

Be blessed.

 

[Mr GLee]

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LOL

Laughter does good like a medicine but it is not a cure

Should be easy to prove Christ the husband is not the power of the father that worked in Jesus the Son of man.

 

[Tambora]

I would offer

Two the one word that denotes Christ has spoken. Demonstrated outwardly by the Son of man dying mankind .The us Elohim

The original dynamic dual .the second . . lone ranger and Tonto.

Two Genesis beginnings, two testaments. two candlesticks, Day two Creation, law and prophets, marriage the two shall become one bride . two by two enter the ark, sends them out two by two The doctrine of two or three a family (smallest denomination) Christ with them .two witness Three signifies the end of matter the established .

The tip of the ice berg many other dual witnesses throughout .

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Not one witness false prophet like Charles Russel . . .Joseph Smith .Charles Mansion, James Jones etc.

Deuteronomy 17:6At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.(the end)

2 Corinthians 13:1This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

1 Timothy 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.

Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

1 John 5:9If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

The invisible eternal witness witnessed and demonstrated by the dying witness . .the Son of man Jesus.

There's plenty of witnesses at this site that have the nerve to tell you how wrong your gnosticism is.

 

[Tambora]

Which Word became God?

The Word did not become God, silly billy goat.
The Word was God, the Word was with God, the Word became flesh.
That would be the eternal creator Son the prophets spoke of.

 

[Tambora]

Sister,

I agree mostly with you but I think you are at a dead end.View attachment 986

He has a differing view then us that I discern in his reply in #37.

Be blessed.

He's way past "a differing view".
He puts a gnostic slant on every one of his posts.

 

[Mr GLee]

The Word did not become God, silly billy goat.
The Word was God, the Word was with God, the Word became flesh.
That would be the eternal creator Son the prophets spoke of.

Hi thanks

Silly Billy Goat LOL

Word was God? or the word was from God?

I think Emanuel with us working in us the living "let there be" words

We walk or understand by the invisible thing by faith . Christ understanding. . The "let there be". Three word God

Which one word was God ?. :let there be flesh and blood from the field of clay. Eleven words.

Eternal God is not a man as us.

Why does it seem so difficult for some to believe in a God that has no form?

 

[Rella]

He's way past "a differing view".
He puts a gnostic slant on every one of his posts.

yep

 

[makesends]

Thanks sorry for the extra work .

LOL. .Worse than Paul's worse than a physicians prescription .

Two things as a slower learner. I hated English dropped out 9 1/2 th. It came back to haunt me when I changed my study habits and began posting on a Catholics Protestant board 20 years. Two women were very patient ended up with one named Midge, then disqualified.

I am not trying to be mysterious or misunderstood . But try and encourage the use of parables. They as prophecy are used as mysteries of faith, teaching us how to walk or understand the unseen eternal things called faith the power of God .

Especially today when mainstream seek after signs and wonders ( I had a dream. out of body, I saw Jesus . I heard a voice false prophecy on the rise .

Signs to wonder after do not answer the understanding of the parables .Parables remain a mystery to them . that look at the temporal dying seen. . and not the invisible things of Christ's Faith or labor of love.

A good example in Luke 9 using series of parables (4) to teach us how to understand the unseen thing of faith. again a series of parable purposely hiding the spiritual unseen understanding of faith . . one after another not giving them the understanding of any parable

Luke 9: 42-44 And as he was yet a coming, the devil threw him down, and tare him. And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the child, and delivered him again to his father.And they were all amazed (no faith) at the mighty power of God. But while they wondered (no faith) every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his disciples,Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men.

Luke 9:45-47 But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying. Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest. And Jesus, perceiving the thought of their heart, took a child, and set him by him,

They must of thought Jesus went off the deep end. Electing a new leader as the greatest top dog

In that way I would think Jesus was the must lonely man that ever walked . Even his own family understood not the poetic signified tongue of Christ .it is a work that Christ not seen alone can empower

Luke 9:48-50 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great. And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. (trusting what the eyes see the temporal not the faith the unseen eternal) And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

Another parable revealing the apostles knew not the understanding of the parable/ prophecy . This time they thought Jesus tried to trick them they assumed he was going to Jerusalem having already scheduled a gentile place . Because they had no faith according to Christ labor of love to understand the parable They demanded jesus call fire from heaven and consume the gentles. . up in smoke, out of sight out of mind (pagan foundation) no faith that could please Christ

Luke 9:51-54 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

The he rebuked there understanding revealing it for what is was the spirt of the unredeemed

Luke 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of

I hope that helps somewhat.

Are you saying that you too try to speak in parables, instead of speaking plainly?

 

[Mr GLee]

Are you saying that you too try to speak in parables, instead of speaking plainly?

Thanks

No I do defend them without them Christ spoke not .

Not a salvation issue more of like. . How can we hear God's living word and not the oral traditons as private interpretations us ?

They as prophecy teach us how to walk by faith the unseen eternal things .

I am still learning.

Christ our confidence promised if he began the good teaching work in us he will continue till we take our last breath

.Good new to slower learners like myself.

 

[makesends]

Thanks

No I do defend them without them Christ spoke not .

Not a salvation issue more of like. . How can we hear God's living word and not the oral traditons as private interpretations us ?

They as prophecy teach us how to walk by faith the unseen eternal things .

I am still learning.

Christ our confidence promised if he began the good teaching work in us he will continue till we take our last breath

.Good new to slower learners like myself.

I'm sorry, but it's really hard to figure out what you are trying to say. Not just here, but pretty much every time. I mean you no disrespect, but I wish you would talk plainly so I know how to respond.

 

[David Lamb]

Sorry, I don't understand your post

hanks

No I do defend them without them Christ spoke not .

I think you meant, " No. I do defend them (parables) because Christ did not speak without them."

Not a salvation issue more of like. .

I don't understand that at all, sorry.

How can we hear God's living word and not the oral traditons as private interpretations us ?

They as prophecy teach us how to walk by faith the unseen eternal things .

I understand, " How can we hear God's living word and not the oral traditions?" but what does "s private interpretations us" mean?

I am still learning.

Christ our confidence promised if he began the good teaching work in us he will continue till we take our last breath

.Good new to slower learners like myself.

I do understand and agree with that part.

 

[Mr GLee]

I don't understand that at all, sorry.

It does not affect salvation if our private interpretation does not do despite to the fullness of grace .In that way there must be heresies or matters of opinion as differences among us.

I understand, " How can we hear God's living word and not the oral traditions?" but what does "s private interpretations us" mean?

Oral traditons are our personal commentary or private interpretation on what we think the Holy Spirit is teaching. We can preach he alone is the one good teaching master

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

I do understand and agree with that part.

Why would you say that?

Philippians 1: 6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ

 

[Mr GLee]

I'm sorry, but it's really hard to figure out what you are trying to say. Not just here, but pretty much every time. I mean you no disrespect, but I wish you would talk plainly so I know how to respond.

Thanks for trying.

 

[David Lamb]

Why would you say that?

Philippians 1: 6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ

Now I think you might have misunderstood me. I said that I do agree understand and agree with your last part, where you wrote: "Christ our confidence promised if he began the good teaching work in us he will continue till we take our last breath." You have replied by asking why would I say that. (Perhaps you thought I said "I don't understand......" I actually wrote that I do understand.")

Thank you for your other explanations.

 

[Mr GLee]

He's way past "a differing view".
He puts a gnostic slant on every one of his posts.

Gnosticism is adding to the word .

Just offering another view . .

Again without parables signified prophecy Christ the one good teaching master spoke not ,. . . Comparing the temporal historical thing seen in order to give believers the unseen spiritual gospel understanding

. Christ said the two must be mixed if we are toseek the spiritual understanding .No mix. . no gospel understanding (Hebrews 4:1-2)

Luke 9 teaching the value of parables .They teach how to walk by faith as labor of Christ love working in the believer the unseen eternal

A whole series of Parables .One right after the other hiding the gospel understanding from natural mankind .Wondering marveling but never come to the end faith, beleif

On one occasion the other apostles other than Jesus gathered together to elect a new top dog, king of the hill. They thought Jesus went of the deep end as some sort of Gnostic slant His own.

If not with the Father Jesus the Son of man the lonest prophet/apostle that ever walked on earth . His own family was ready to turn him in section 8 the padded cell.

Luke 9: 41-48 And Jesus answering said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you? Bring thy son hither. And as he was yet a coming, the devil threw him down, and tare him. And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the child, and delivered him again to his father. And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God. But while they wondered every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his disciples, Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying. Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest. And Jesus, perceiving the thought of their heart, took a child, and set him by him, And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

In another parable hiding the gospel understanding. The apostles thought Jesus tricked them. The racist Jews as apostles thought he would go to the Jews in Jerusalem but went to the Gentiles in order to show Christ is the Father of all nations . it displeased the apostles in anger they demanded the Lord to bring down fire and consume the gentiles .The old "out of sight out of mind" no God . The Pagan foundation of all the false religions.

Eternal God is not a Jewish man as us .

Then given words from the Father Jesus rebuked them and then devil took a long hike off a short Pier.

Luke 9:51-55 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

The signified understanding it does not change the simplicity of the gospel. More of I think enrich prophecy like our daily bread or called hidden manna spoken of in Revelations 2:17

Exodus 16:31 And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.