Why don't you?I thought you asked me if you could explain this to me?
Why don't you?I thought you asked me if you could explain this to me?
That is not what I said so your response is pointless. Nothing but a straw man.So if you don't believe God is triune you are not born again.
I rest my case.
Your born-again understanding is self-serving.
Then you can be born again without believing God is a triune by your definition?That is not what I said so your response is pointless. Nothing but a straw man.
You can be born again without yet recognizing the deity of Christ, but if you are born again, sooner or later you will recognize that the One who died for the eternal forgiveness of sin, had to Himself be eternal and self existent, not created. And since there is only one being who is eternal and self existen, that being God, Jesus is God with us, come as one of us, that He might substitute Himself for us on the cross, paying the penalty for sin that we owe. We do not gain knowledge and understanding by osmosis. We learn by reading His word with the light of the Holy Spirit shining on it.Then you can be born again without believing God is a triune by your definition?
Your reading is self-serving.You can be born again without yet recognizing the deity of Christ, but if you are born again, sooner or later you will recognize that the One who died for the eternal forgiveness of sin, had to Himself be eternal and self existent, not created. And since there is only one being who is eternal and self existen, that being God, Jesus is God with us, come as one of us, that He might substitute Himself for us on the cross, paying the penalty for sin that we owe. We do not gain knowledge and understanding by osmosis. We learn by reading His word with the light of the Holy Spirit shining on it.
And we do not born ourselves again. God does that. Read what Jesus says about it in John 3.
You can just simply say without believing Jesus is God, you are not born again.You can be born again without yet recognizing the deity of Christ, but if you are born again, sooner or later you will recognize that the One who died for the eternal forgiveness of sin, had to Himself be eternal and self existent, not created. And since there is only one being who is eternal and self existen, that being God, Jesus is God with us, come as one of us, that He might substitute Himself for us on the cross, paying the penalty for sin that we owe. We do not gain knowledge and understanding by osmosis. We learn by reading His word with the light of the Holy Spirit shining on it.
And we do not born ourselves again. God does that. Read what Jesus says about it in John 3.
A person doesn't believe in the deity of Jesus until they are born again. Stop putting words in my mouth. Pay attention to what is said. Don't call people names.You can just simply say without believing Jesus is God, you are not born again.
Why such pretentiousness?
This is my insight about what Jesus means by "born again."A person doesn't believe in the deity of Jesus until they are born again. Stop putting words in my mouth. Pay attention to what is said. Don't call people names.
I will ask, with little hope of an actual response: surely you know that Jesus speaks of those who inherit the kingdom of God being born again. So what do you say that means?
Your insight has nothing to do with being born again.This is my insight about what Jesus means by "born again."
Jesus does not approve of anyone who is not wholeheartedly devoted to serving God and Jesus.
IOW, lipserving professed believers will not make it.
Jesus' main message about loving God is this: love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
There are so many similar admonishments from Jesus that most trin believers dismiss.
Of course, you don't understand what it means to be born again. You have no respect for Jesus' authority.Your insight has nothing to do with being born again.
Okay? What do you want to know?Why don't you?
I already told you what born again is. I asked you what you thought Jesus meant by that and you can't tell me.Of course, you don't understand what it means to be born again. You have no respect for Jesus' authority.
Otherwise, you would not believe Jesus is God or God is triune against His word.
I already told you what born again is.
I thought you wanted to teach me about what you have been talking about.Okay? What do you want to know?
I did not ask if you agree or not. I asked you what you think Jesus was saying about being born again in John 3. It is easy to see, no matter how much reterik or how many unfounded accusations are made; it is easy to see when someone is using those things to deflect from answering a question. Do you not answer it because you have no clue? Have never thought about it or considered it important?I know, I don't agree.
Where did you tell me?If you want my take, I already told you, friend.
I do know, but you have never asked me what Jesus meant when He spoke of being born again in John 3. You disagree without ever knowing what my view is. And it has nothing to do with the doctrine of the Trinity.It is ok to admit not knowing if don't.
Instead of pretending to know.
That smacks of self righteous legalism and is ironic considering all the judgements and accusations you throw at people.that is a good Christian thing to do.
No matter where you come from with your wrongful ideas, Jesus never contradicts Himself.I did not ask if you agree or not. I asked you what you think Jesus was saying about being born again in John 3.
This sort of thing continued is not going to fly. Do you learn nothing from time outs. Either start addressing what is said with cogent responses instead of simply accusations based on nothing, or pay the price.No matter where you come from with your wrongful ideas, Jesus never contradicts Himself.
You need to reexamine your faith and why you are so obsessed with justifying against His word.
I am only sharing, friend. I know what I believe and why I believe it.I thought you wanted to teach me about what you have been talking about.
If you want my take, I already told you, friend.
It is ok to admit not knowing if don't.
Instead of pretending to know.
that is a good Christian thing to do.
So am I.I am only sharing, friend. I know what I believe and why I believe it.
Jesus says we know them by their fruit.I am only sharing, friend. I know what I believe and why I believe it.
Regeneration of the Holy Spirit
Regeneration is a spiritual rebirth where man is radically changed. It is a work of the Holy Spirit, and without regeneration, there will be no justification or sanctification. Regeneration is also known as being "born again". The Holy Spirit appiles the work of the cross to the believer and imparts God's life into the believer's spirit, thus the believer is regenerated.
Regeneration is something accomplished by God. A deadman cannot raise himself from the dead. (R.C. Sproul)
Your turn, please by all means. If you can share your position on it, thanks.