Pastor Steven Anderson is a hypocrite ...

[prism]

How else would we know that God exists apart from the penned word?

Conviction of conscience through His Holy Spirit...

John 16:8-9 NET
And when he comes, he will prove the world wrong concerning sin and righteousness and judgment- [9] concerning sin, because they do not believe in me;

Without His Word and/or Spirit, we are just dummies, knowing nothing.

 

[Ritajanice]

Conviction of conscience through His Holy Spirit...

John 16:8-9 NET
And when he comes, he will prove the world wrong concerning sin and righteousness and judgment- [9] concerning sin, because they do not believe in me;

Without His Word and/or Spirit, we are just dummies, knowing nothing.

Interesting.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.....which comes by divine revelation......Gods Spirit our spirit....it’s mind blowing how he brings our spirit from death into his Sons life....only the mighty power of God can do that....therefore all Glory goes to God!!....how anyone can think that they can play a part in becoming a spirit child of God,is beyond my comprehension...

As he indwells us, our spirit recognises the Holy Spirit , Gods Witness ,who can only witness Gods truth to our heart/ spirit.....Born Of God’s seed.....Born Again of Imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever.......spirit children...Mind Blowing!....our spirit belongs to God.....we house His Holy Spirit...

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Romans 8 ►

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Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ Walking by the Spirit (Ezekiel 36:16–38; Galatians 5:16–26) 1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.a2For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set youb free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, as an offering for sin.c He thus condemned sin in the flesh, 4so that the righteous standard of the law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5Those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace,7because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8Those controlled by the fleshd cannot please God. 9You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. 10But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alivee because of righteousness. 11And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the deadf will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit, who lives in you. Heirs with Christ 12Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation, but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15For you did not receive a spirit of slavery that returns you to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” 16The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17And if we are children, then we are heirs: heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ—if indeed we suffer with Him, so that we may also be glorified with Him. Future Glory (2 Corinthians 5:1–10) 18I consider that our present sufferings are not comparable to the glory that will be revealed in us. 19The creation waits in eager expectation for the revelation of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. 23Not only that, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved; but hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he can already see? 25But if we hope for what we do not yet see, we wait for it patiently. 26In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know how we ought to pray, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groans too deep for words. 27And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. God Works in All Things (Ephesians 1:3–14) 28And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose. 29For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified. 31What then shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare His own Son but gave Him up for us all, how will He not also, along with Him, freely give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. 34Who is there to condemn us? For Christ Jesus, who died, and more than that was raised to life, is at the right hand of God—and He is interceding for us. More than Conquerors (Psalm 44:1–26) 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written: “For Your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”g 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

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how anyone can think that they can play a part in becoming a spirit child of God,is beyond my comprehension...

I don't believe we can, it's part of God's choosing.

As he indwells us, our spirit recognises the Holy Spirit , Gods Witness ,who can only witness Gods truth to our heart/ spirit.....Born Of God’s seed.....Born Again of Imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever.......spirit children...Mind Blowing!....our spirit belongs to God.....we house His Holy Spirit...

He doesn't indwell us apart from faith in His Son. There's no faith in Him apart from His choosing and drawing us to Himself.

 

[grace2]

You have been pointing out what “ you” believe to be dishonest claims...now if you don’t mind.

Pastor Steven Anderson is A Hypocrite.....

bye, sweetie.

 

[Ritajanice]

I don't believe we can, it's part of God's choosing.

He doesn't indwell us apart from faith in His Son. There's no faith in Him apart from His choosing and drawing us to Himself.

We are Born Of The Spirit.

The Holy Spirit permanently indwells Gods Born Again child...why do you think we have to be Born Again?

Our spirit is birthed into Christ Spirit....we know God in our spirit/ heart....our spirit is led by Gods Spirit......being Born Of Imperishable seed is a “ Living “ spirit birth.....it’s our spirit that must be Born Again.

9You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you

Gods witness His Living Holy Spirit has taken up permanent residence in our heart/ spirit...only he can witness that we are Born Again by His Spirit to our spirit.....just as his word says..........he testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.

Without His Spirit we are none of His....we are gifted faith by God a manifestation of the Spirit.. we know God in our spirit our intellect isn’t Born Of God’s seed, our spirit is Born Of God’s seed.....God is Spirit and our spirit is what communicates with him, via his witness the Living Holy Spirit.....we are spirit children...

Anyway, I will leave it there for the moment..

 

[prism]

why do you think we have to be Born Again?

It's the beginning of redemption applied which eventually includes our new bodies.
Your explanation of the new birth has shades of Theosis. Have you dabbled in Eastern/Russian Orthodox?

 

[Ritajanice]

It's the beginning of redemption applied which eventually includes our new bodies.

It’s the beginning of our spirit life with God, who chose us for his purpose and plan....we are spirit children therefore belong to God...all Glory and power to God....a child of God has been grafted into the true vine Jesus...by Gods Spirit, we are in the world we are not of the world......we learn to communicate with God via His Living Holy Spirit....who has taken up residence in our heart/spirit permanently.

Your explanation of the new birth has shades of Theosis. Have you dabbled in Eastern/Russian Orthodox?

.our spirit once Born Again is reconciled back to God...that’s why we need to be Born Again....we are now spirit children....God is a Spirit our spirit communicates with God via His Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Once Born Again we belong to God.

My testimony of the divine revelation birth, Born Again, has got no shades of anything in it....you do not have to read a Bible to become Born Of The Spirit.

That is a Living divine act of God via His Spirit.....who do you think witnesses Gods truth to our heart/ spirit?

Are you understanding what I’m saying?

Where in you do you know that God exists?

How would I know that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected, having never read a Bible?

Of course I knew all about Jesus in my human understanding, I was taught all about the Jesus of Nazareth at school.

Where else in me do I need to know about Jesus?

It was because of the cross that I can be reconciled back to God?

Who is Gods witness to Gods penned word?

Who leads us through scripture to bring it to our understanding in our spirit?

Who are we without the Holy Spirit?

Our spirit has been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever.

Where does this imperishable seed liveth and abideth forever?

 

[Mr GLee]

I don't believe we can, it's part of God's choosing.

He doesn't indwell us apart from faith in His Son. There's no faith in Him apart from His choosing and drawing us to Himself.

We have the faith (power to beleive) in the Father invisible . Not dying faithless mankind the Son of man Jesus the temporal seen. Our brother in the Lord

Christ's faith as a labor of his love as law ."let there be" and it was "eternal God alone good."

God works in believers dying mankind seen to both (the key ) reveal his understanding and empower us to do it to his good unseen Holy presence

Christ in us. . not Christ is us

Why murmur? What about me ?

The Son of man Jesus did the invisible will of the Father with delight

Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

 

[prism]

It’s the beginning of our spirit life with God, who chose us for his purpose and plan....we are spirit children therefore belong to God...all Glory and power to God....a child of God has been grafted into the true vine Jesus...by Gods Spirit, we are in the world we are not of the world......we learn to communicate with God via His Living Holy Spirit....who has taken up residence in our heart/spirit permanently.



.our spirit once Born Again is reconciled back to God...that’s why we need to be Born Again....we are now spirit children....God is a Spirit our spirit communicates with God via His Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit?

Once Born Again we belong to God.

My testimony of the divine revelation birth, Born Again, has got no shades of anything in it....you do not have to read a Bible to become Born Of The Spirit.

That is a Living divine act of God via His Spirit.....who do you think witnesses Gods truth to our heart/ spirit?

Are you understanding what I’m saying?

Where in you do you know that God exists?

How would I know that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected, having never read a Bible?

Of course I knew all about Jesus in my human understanding, I was taught all about the Jesus of Nazareth at school.

Where else in me do I need to know about Jesus?

It was because of the cross that I can be reconciled back to God?

Who is Gods witness to Gods penned word?

Who leads us through scripture to bring it to our understanding in our spirit?

Who are we without the Holy Spirit?

Our spirit has been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever.

Where does this imperishable seed liveth and abideth forever?

What about our body? Do we receive new bodies?

 

[prism]

We have the faith (power to beleive) in the Father invisible . Not dying faithless mankind the Son of man Jesus the temporal seen. Our brother in the Lord

Christ's faith as a labor of his love as law ."let there be" and it was "eternal God alone good."

God works in believers dying mankind seen to both (the key ) reveal his understanding and empower us to do it to his good unseen Holy presence

Christ in us. . not Christ is us

Why murmur? What about me ?

The Son of man Jesus did the invisible will of the Father with delight

Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

It all makes for good poetry but horrible theology.

 

[Mr GLee]

It all makes for good poetry but horrible theology.

Poetry . . .Parables?

 

[Ritajanice]

What about our body? Do we receive new bodies?

Once our body of flesh and bones go back into the ground, our spirit will go back to God,

1 Corinthians 15:40-44​

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King James Version​

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40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body

1 Corinthians 15:43-55​

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown inweakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made* a livingsoul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as isthe heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall alsobear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot* inheritthe kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all* sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: forthe trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raisedincorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortalmust put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, andthis mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

 

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44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

That's what I was looking for, as well as...

Romans 8:23 NKJV
Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body.

 

[prism]

Poetry . . .Parables?

ditto

 

[Mr GLee]

ditto

Parables make poor theology?

If not rightly divided they make terrible the theology The mysteries of faith remains mysteries . . wonders.??????

 

[prism]

Parables make poor theology?

No, my ditto was that your post #290 could be taken as poetry or parable, hence - 'ditto'.