That is eisgesis. The Biblical text doesn't say "in such manner". It literally says "God was manifested in the flesh". Of course you cannot deal with that directly, so you add to it, "in such manner". That's very telling.
That doesn't mean God became a human. I gave you the proper exegesis and it seems you don't like it. A human being as God is idolatry. Is a human being descended from Adam your Lord God Almighty?
Of course, if you think you are God like Jesus was and is, you fell for the lie of the serpent in the garden of Eden. That would explain your antagonism to Christ being God. I know you probably can't see that yet, but you need to be born again first in order to see it spiritually.
I have a testimony. Your lack knowledge and awareness of the details don't alter my status as a saved child of God and follower of Jesus. I believe the gospel: 1 Corinthians 15:1-3 and that Jesus is God's Son and the Messiah. God raised him from the dead, Romans 10:9.
You did not give "proper exegesis" you gave eisegesis by adding "IN SUCH MANNER" when the text of the scripture does not say that. I think you need to study Biblical interpretation before you come here to teach other people.
I didn't ask you if you have a testimony, I told you to describe your salvation experience in detail. Didn't I? Why are you avoiding basic English?
Ironic since you're clearly a trinitarian and the very doctrine isn't in the Bible. It's debunked by the Bible.
Regardless of whether or not I can look up all of the alleged proofs for what you think are references to Christ being God, I have already read them all anyway. This is a message board where you can discuss it with others.
When or if I want to.
I'll do it when or if I want to. This thread isn't the place for that. I opened this thread to discuss the topic I wanted, not to discuss the topic you want.
So just like I suspected from the very beginning, you refuse to share your testimony in detail regarding your experience of regeneration and being born again. That means you are suspect from the very outset.
There is, starting with the fact that none other than one who is fully God in nature, that is self existent, eternal, all the omni's, pure and eternal holiness (not only morally but also as to otherness than what He creates, outside of it not inside of it), but who also has the nature of the one's for whom he makes substitutionary atonement, could possibly qualify to cover sin for all believers of all time. One single creature could never do such a thing, being a mere creature Himself. But also it is a part of Christianity. So to not believe in Christ's deity is to be Christian in an assumed name only.
Also, salvation doesn't depend upon believing that Jesus is God. It is an act of grace on the human soul regardless of how much theology a person has understood intellectually. Nobody here claims that believing Jesus is God the Father constitutes being born again. But certainly a person will submit to Jesus as deity, THE SON OF GOD, as and when they have become more familiar with what the Bible, the word of God, states.
and yet there isn't a single line about believing Jesus is God in the gospel. I would also note that God is a person, not a nature. The divine nature is something normal Christians (should) have according to Peter. Furthmore, Colossians 1:15 calls Jesus the firstborn of (God's) creation. A firstborn refers to Jesus as God's begotten Son. Being a son necessitates a beginning point, therefore Jesus isn't God. Hence the Father is called the only true God in John 17:3.
You are clearly not familiar with the Bible. There are prayers to Jesus in every beginning of Paul's epistles.
The word "prayer" is never once used in conjunction with speaking to Jesus in the Bible. Talking to Jesus, asking Jesus, etc doesn't constitute a prayer.
This is also wrong. You claim your thread is about prayer to Jesus not existing in the Bible, but now you are derailing your own thread by changing the topic to Jesus being God.
Admins support the rules of this forum. Pretty classless and tasteless you are aggressively trying to derail this thread.
Part of the thesis of the first post of this thread is that Jesus isn't God. Please go back and read post #1. I am obviously not derailing my own thread.
Here's a quote from post # 1. There is nothing in it about my offering my testimony here.
Evidently you aren't familiar with the fact that this forum is run by Reformed Christians. Reformed Protestants aren't in a cult. I'm sure you aren't going to attempt to get me banned just because you cannot refute me. Nor would any admin do that unless they were also in the Unitarian cult.
