Pastor Steven Anderson is a hypocrite ...

[Mr GLee]

Well, too bad for you. I've heard it numerous times.

According to the creative law of faith . as a law our Faithfull and true Father he prophesied "let there be clay" and as a witness "it was God alone good" God from clay formed mankind. . ., all kinds.

Our Holy father faithfully created the Son of man Jesus in order to demonstrate his invisible power to the world . The Son of man did not say; "let there be a infalible invisible Father." The clay accusing the Potter he has no understanding ???

Isaiah 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

 

[CrowCross]

According to the creative law of faith . as a law our Faithfull and true Father he prophesied "let there be clay" and as a witness "it was God alone good" God from clay formed mankind. . ., all kinds.

Yes, God is one and formed Adam from the clay....One of the persons of the trinitarian Godhead spoke to the other two persons of the trinitarian Godhead and said....Let US make man in OUR image.

Our Holy father faithfully created the Son of man Jesus in order to demonstrate his invisible power to the world . The Son of man did not say; "let there be a infalible invisible Father." The clay accusing the Potter he has no understanding ???

Isaiah 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

 

[Mr GLee]

Yes, God is one and formed Adam from the clay....One of the persons of the trinitarian Godhead spoke to the other two persons of the trinitarian Godhead and said....Let US make man in OUR image.

Yes the image of two needed to display the work of one . The Father not seen and the Son of man Jesus seen.

 

[CrowCross]

Yes the image of two needed to display the work of one . The Father not seen and the Son of man Jesus seen.

I need a translator to help me understand that reply.

 

[Mr GLee]

I need a translator to help me understand that reply.

We do not trust a God who has no form (invisible) Therefore not by looking at the (visible dying things made )" .

Its like close you eyes take a step of faith a step up and trust Him not seen .

The gospel gives us eyes that see the things of God and ears to hear his understanding "hear and obey" .to "will and to do". two witnesses one God

God uses the dying temporal things seen mankind compared the unseen spiritual eternal things of faith. . . God powerful Spirit as labor of his love working in us ) to give us his unseen spiritual "signified understanding" . hiding it from those who do not mix the two according to the mixing recipe below

2 Corinthians 4:18King James Version18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Visible and invisible . Now you see it temporal historical. . . now you do not. . eternal invisible .Many disciples that had their hope on the temporal dying flesh walked away greatly offended by the gospel

John 6: 62-63 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life

 

[Ladodgers6]

The salvation formula never involved an example of the trinitarian formula in the Bible. Never happened. Was no one in the Bible saved for not following Steven Anderson said to believ?

I beg to differ. Research Covenant of Redemption.

 

[grace2]

I beg to differ. Research Covenant of Redemption.

We don't trust trin's research.

Trins made salvation complicated. Jesus' salvation is not complicated.

It is all bogus.

 

[Ladodgers6]

We don't trust trin's research.

Trins made salvation complicated. Jesus' salvation is not complicated.

It is all bogus.

Is this your only argument? Because then you have a problem already. Must a person be born again?

 

[grace2]

Is this your only argument? Because then you have a problem already. Must a person be born again?

Why is it a problem?

That is what Jesus says. If you are not born again, you will not be saved.

 

[Ladodgers6]

Why is it a problem?

That is what Jesus says. If you are not born again, you will not be saved.

Not so fast, being born again is the power of the Holy Spirit; is which part of the Trinity, right?

 

[grace2]

Not so fast, being born again is the power of the Holy Spirit; is which part of the Trinity, right?

Nope.

It has nothing to do with your triune god.

 

[CrowCross]

Trins made salvation complicated.

How's that?

 

[Ladodgers6]

Nope.

It has nothing to do with your triune god.

This is your counter argument? Okay, please explain how is a person born again?

 

[grace2]

This is your counter argument? Okay, please explain how is a person born again?

By accepting the Lord God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.

You cannot commit to God and Jesus without striving to obey all that He commands.

And we know them by their fruit.

Just claiming to be born again will not make it.

Jesus says to be faithful until the end.

Jesus is the Judge, self-assurance will not make it.

 

[Ladodgers6]

By accepting the Lord God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.

You cannot commit to God and Jesus without striving to obey all that He commands.

And we know them by their fruit.

Just claiming to be born again will not make it.

Jesus says to be faithful until the end.

Jesus is the Judge, self-assurance will not make it.

So, in essence a person is not born again until they "ACCEPT" God with "ALL" their heart, soul, strength and mind. Then are they are born again?

 

[grace2]

So, in essence a person is not born again until they "ACCEPT" God with "ALL" their heart, soul, strength and mind. Then are they are born again?

Just remember lip service won't count.

Jesus is the Judge of salvation.

 

[Ladodgers6]

Just remember lip service won't count.

Jesus is the Judge of salvation.

Again I ask you, Is a person born again by their subjective activity?

 

[Runningman]

I beg to differ. Research Covenant of Redemption.

I am referring to Biblical examples. None of them have anything to do with the Trinity. Can you name one?

 

[Runningman]

Your Jesus wasn't God. Your Jesus wasn't the creator. Your Jesus didn't come down for heaven....your Jesus isn't real.

Your Jesus didn't die for your sins because God is immortal. Check mate.

 

[grace2]

Your Jesus didn't die for your sins because God is immortal. Check mate.

exactly!