Pastor Steven Anderson is a hypocrite ...

[Mr GLee]

I've read the bible...especially where it says...1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God...the Word became flesh.

...and you call me believing this as "evil". You never did answer the question...Are the "Jesus is God" people going to hell?

What was the single word that was with God ?Was it God? Or in the beginning was God and he said words of God "let there be" In that way words have meaning . Unlike today big change from 75 years ago Now any word can have any meaning . The age of illusions . the tower of Babble

God is not a literal word. He is a revealing Spirit.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

should of been rather than the word became flesh it should of ben the unseen word
was revealed by the flesh The let there be law of faith.

 

[Arial]

It actually HAS been discussed here, and I'm not required to do ANYTHING on command here.

If you don't like that, Arial, you've got all the power to do something about it, don't ya?

Do your worst.

Asking for something prefaced, as it was, with "it needs to be clarified" is in no way issuing a command. I asked the question of you in direct response to something you said. That being if you believe that Jesus is God but deny the Trinity, in what way do you believe Jesus is God? You did not answer me. I should not be required to read everything you have said in order to have my question answered. A simple courtesy is all that is required.

And it is not necessary to display personal feelings for someone in a way that denigrates their character. Engage in character assasination iow.

 

[CrowCross]

He is just another type of false god preacher.

nothing new.

If he's a false God preacher.....can people who go to his church get saved by the God he speaks of?

 

[CrowCross]

Yeah, you're right.

Happens alllll the time, right?

How 'bout a single video of it happening at any other church in the entire world, ay? Since it's so prevalent, ya know.

I'll be waiting. And, as usual, you won't deliver.

Sometimes it's even worse.....see here.

 

[CrowCross]

What was the single word that was with God ?Was it God? Or in the beginning was God and he said words of God "let there be" In that way words have meaning . Unlike today big change from 75 years ago Now any word can have any meaning . The age of illusions . the tower of Babble

God is not a literal word. He is a revealing Spirit.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

should of been rather than the word became flesh it should of ben the unseen word
was revealed by the flesh The let there be law of faith.

You can make John 1 say whatever you need it to say...all I do is read in and quote it. Unlike you, I don't change it.

I simply point out the Word was with God and the Word was God...HE was with God in the beginning, was the creator and became flesh.
Now if you need to deny that...then go for it.

 

[Mr GLee]

You can make John 1 say whatever you need it to say...all I do is read in and quote it. Unlike you, I don't change it.

I simply point out the Word was with God and the Word was God...HE was with God in the beginning, was the creator and became flesh.
Now if you need to deny that...then go for it.

I haven't changed anything. I know God is a eternal Spirit that speaks spiritual words . let there be and it was God alone good ,. and not like the idea of a unknown tongues senseless sounds without meaning.

Again what was the one word you say is God that is with him ? Why would you think God is a man flesh and blood as if we walked by sight after the temporal and not faith the invisible things of God

2 Corinthians 4:18King James Version18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

 

[CrowCross]

Why would you think God is a man flesh and blood

Because John tells us God is.

The Word who was God became flesh. John 1

Even Paul in Phil 2 tells us the same thing but uses slightly different language. Jesus who was equal to and in the form of God was found as a man in the form of a servant.

That's why.

 

[Runningman]

If he's a false God preacher.....can people who go to his church get saved by the God he speaks of?

What is the gospel message he is telling to people?

 

[grace2]

If he's a false God preacher.....can people who go to his church get saved by the God he speaks of?

We all have access to the Truth.

So there is no excuse for worshipping a false god.

 

[Ladodgers6]

Sounded like the pastor was in the middle of a service giving the sermon....where you're not supposed to interrupt.

It sounds to me you don't believe Jesus is God.

I thought the situation could have been handled better. Pastor was not acting like a man of God. Name calling during a service...really? The Pastor could've gently told him he would be glad to answer any question he has after service. Why do we need to act like this? That's just my take on it. This Pastor lacks leadership and patience. How will anyone want to approach him with any questions or concerns after that. It made the whole situation worse in my opinion.​

 

[Mr GLee]

I would think many believe the Son of man, Jesus is God . And not Christ the anointing Holy Spirit the unseen head as Almighty God...

Not distinguishing God the Faithful Creator from dying mankind the creation. Satan would have it all one in the same (.the God Man) he needs form to work out his lying signs to wonder after (his voice)

Jesus born of woman the Son of man. Born again as the first born of many sons of God (Christians)

Satan would have dying mankind believe God is a Jewish man as King of kings and Lord of lords.

The first century reformation came destroying the pagan foundation the abomination of desolation,. Dying mankind (kings) in the place of our invisible head Christ. The King of kings and Lord of lords

God gave them over to that faithless pagan foundation (out of sight out of mind ) as in, who believes in invisible Kings? That was when the atheist Jews demanded of the prophet apostle Samuel, in their jealousy of all the pagan nations. They demanded a human resprentittive to venerate worship .

The idea of venerating a invisible God foolish to them whose foundation is out of sight out of mind . Like with Cain " I do not know where my brother is? Have you seen him did you check your pocket ?? mocking God ..

The time of reformation had come. The shadows became sight. the heavenly government restored to the period of Judges. Men and woman sons and daughters prophets from all the nations of the world sent out as apostles with the gospel of peace .

When the vail was rent from the top (60 foot) opening up the holy of holies there was no Jewish man as King of kings sitting there.

Satan fell into a bottomless pit. He could no longer deceive all the nations of the world that God is a Jewish man as King of kings and Lord of lords . He will be released for a while at the end of the age

Revelation 20: 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. . . . . . . (Loosed again deceive all the nations of the world God is a Jewish man as King of kings and Lord of lords) then the end will come .

 

[Mr GLee]

Because John tells us God is.

The Word who was God became flesh. John 1

Even Paul in Phil 2 tells us the same thing but uses slightly different language. Jesus who was equal to and in the form of God was found as a man in the form of a servant.

That's why.

Form not likeness (mirror image) . Form like mined. God our invisible head has no form . He needs none.

Philippians 2: 2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

Philippians 2:6-7 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Likeness not substance (eternal Spirt)

 

[CrowCross]

What is the gospel message he is telling to people?

God the Son hung on the cross and died for your sins.

 

[CrowCross]

I would think many believe the Son of man, Jesus is God . And not Christ the anointing Holy Spirit the unseen head as Almighty God...

Jesus is God. Jesus was anointed.

A mere finite man couldn't have paid the infinite price required to have mans forgiven. That is something only God the Son could do.

 

[CrowCross]

I thought the situation could have been handled better. Pastor was not acting like a man of God. Name calling during a service...really? The Pastor could've gently told him he would be glad to answer any question he has after service. Why do we need to act like this? That's just my take on it. This Pastor lacks leadership and patience. How will anyone want to approach him with any questions or concerns after that. It made the whole situation worse in my opinion.​

I pretty much agree. My first reply was....I don't know if I would have acted the way Pastor Anderson handed the situation...but I agree with him 100%.

From what I watched it sounds like the preacher has spoken on this topic before....and this may not have been the first time this guy spoke or interrupted.
I would imagine the preacher is very approachable...the question is why didn't the guy wait till the sermon was over?

 

[Mr GLee]

Jesus is God. Jesus was anointed.

A mere finite man couldn't have paid the infinite price required to have mans forgiven. That is something only God the Son could do.

Yes, as the Son of man, Jesus he was anointed (taught) by His Father, Christ the anointing Holy Spirit of God .

The Holy anointing Spirit lovingly warns us of those who say we need dying mankind to teach us calls them antichrists', false prophets sent as false apostles

A mere finite man couldn't have paid the infinite price required to have mans forgiven. That is something only Gods Holy Spirit can do

very important warning .

1 John 2:26 -27These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him

It would seem you believe God must be seen in order to be believed?

God not seen used he Son of man Jesus was sent as a apostle to demonstrate to the unbelieving world His Almighty power of the Father. Performing the faithfulness, as labor of his love

Not walking by faith he unseen eternal things of God . Be careful how you hear, what you hear, who you say you do hear it from .

Its easy to be deceived. In that way we guard that which guards us the living word the sword of the Spirit cuts both ways. The gospel .the key the gates of hell could never prevail against .

 

[CrowCross]

A mere finite man couldn't have paid the infinite price required to have mans forgiven. That is something only Gods Holy Spirit can do

I once asked...
where does the bible state a mere man, non-eternal man can pay the eternal price and redeem mankind?
If Jesus were simply a mere man then His death couldn't have even began to atone for his own sins let alone mine or the sins of the world.

So, how did a mere man withstand the infinite wrath of God? The answer is a mere man couldn't...only the God-man could. The Word who was God became flesh is the only option to pay the price.

Why? What is the worth of a mere man compared to the God-man? Jesus let go of His equality with God!!! (Eph 2:6) and suffered the death on the cross..suffered total forsakenness. Which is far, far greater than the suffering of any created human being in hell. Only God could pay that eternal, infinite price for all of mankind. A mere man has no eternal worth and is bankrupt when it comes to paying the wages of their sin.

God was given a body for that purpose...so Jesus could step out of heaven and come and be THE sin offering. As we know it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins...even an angel couldn't take away sin nor could a mere man. The ONLY one with eternal worth is Christ Jesus!!!

So, how can a mere man pay the eternal ransom for mankinds sin when his account is empty and never contained any eternal worth?

 

[Mr GLee]

I once asked...
where does the bible state a mere man, non-eternal man can pay the eternal price and redeem mankind?
If Jesus were simply a mere man then His death couldn't have even began to atone for his own sins let alone mine or the sins of the world.

So, how did a mere man withstand the infinite wrath of God? The answer is a mere man couldn't...only the God-man could. The Word who was God became flesh is the only option to pay the price.

Why? What is the worth of a mere man compared to the God-man? Jesus let go of His equality with God!!! (Eph 2:6) and suffered the death on the cross..suffered total forsakenness. Which is far, far greater than the suffering of any created human being in hell. Only God could pay that eternal, infinite price for all of mankind. A mere man has no eternal worth and is bankrupt when it comes to paying the wages of their sin.

God was given a body for that purpose...so Jesus could step out of heaven and come and be THE sin offering. As we know it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins...even an angel couldn't take away sin nor could a mere man. The ONLY one with eternal worth is Christ Jesus!!!

So, how can a mere man pay the eternal ransom for mankinds sin when his account is empty and never contained any eternal worth?

Again no man can pay the eternal wage of sin. Truly dead (powerless) in their trespass and sin .

Remember the Son of man Jesus dying mankind had no power of his own As a promised demonstration to the world
. as the father struck him according to the letter of the law (death he was wounded the father bruised his heel for our transgressions. In his weakens he cried out for strength Abba Father help.

All of the work of salvation is accredited to the unseen head Christ our Father. The dying flesh of the Son of man jesus profits for zero . Walk by faith the unseen eternal things of God .

A living sacrifice God cannot die .

 

[Runningman]

God the Son hung on the cross and died for your sins.

Yes he's teaching a false gospel then.

 

[STAND]

I would think many believe the Son of man, Jesus is God . And not Christ the anointing Holy Spirit the unseen head as Almighty God...

Not distinguishing God the Faithful Creator from dying mankind the creation. Satan would have it all one in the same (.the God Man) he needs form to work out his lying signs to wonder after (his voice)

Jesus born of woman the Son of man. Born again as the first born of many sons of God (Christians)

Satan would have dying mankind believe God is a Jewish man as King of kings and Lord of lords.

The first century reformation came destroying the pagan foundation the abomination of desolation,. Dying mankind (kings) in the place of our invisible head Christ. The King of kings and Lord of lords

God gave them over to that faithless pagan foundation (out of sight out of mind ) as in, who believes in invisible Kings? That was when the atheist Jews demanded of the prophet apostle Samuel, in their jealousy of all the pagan nations. They demanded a human resprentittive to venerate worship .

The idea of venerating a invisible God foolish to them whose foundation is out of sight out of mind . Like with Cain " I do not know where my brother is? Have you seen him did you check your pocket ?? mocking God ..

The time of reformation had come. The shadows became sight. the heavenly government restored to the period of Judges. Men and woman sons and daughters prophets from all the nations of the world sent out as apostles with the gospel of peace .

When the vail was rent from the top (60 foot) opening up the holy of holies there was no Jewish man as King of kings sitting there.

Satan fell into a bottomless pit. He could no longer deceive all the nations of the world that God is a Jewish man as King of kings and Lord of lords . He will be released for a while at the end of the age

Revelation 20: 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. . . . . . . (Loosed again deceive all the nations of the world God is a Jewish man as King of kings and Lord of lords) then the end will come .

Remind me how this is relevant to the thread again.

Since it isn't addressed to anyone in particular, it seems a bit out of place here.