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Did you see where the "word (logos) of life" is called an it in 1 John 1:1,2?
A doxology to Jesus.
A song to Jesus.
...and Christ.
Sure do, because "through Jesus" includes "to Jesus."
Excellent!
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According to John in John 1..this logos of life was God. Then this God became flesh.
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There's a larger context. You can see the result in John 1:18 where Jesus was created as a begotten Son. The logos (word, speech) of God manifested a human. It isn't God becoming a man.
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bottom line is they are priests to God and Jesus isn't God. No one prays to a priest in the Bible therefore no one prays to Jesus. too easy.
bottom line is they are priests to God and Jesus.
Thanks for making this so easy for me to refute your heresy.
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John 1:18 DOESN'T say Jesus was created. I just read it. You appear to be adding to scripture.
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Not according to scripture.
Revelation 1:6 - priests to Jesus' God and Father
Revelation 5:9,10 - priests to God
Revelation 20:6 - priests to God
1 Peter 2:5 - priests to God through Christ Jesus.
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This means Jesus was created. Deal with it.
John 1
18No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him .
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Christ isn't God. Did you notice that in Revelation 20:6?
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John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
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According to Hebrews 1:5, Jesus was begotten and there are no other possible meanings. Furthermore, one of the definitions for monogenés is actually "only begotten" so that isn't the correct translation.
Jesus the only begotten Son of God:
John 1
18No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
G3439. monogenés
Strong's Concordance
monogenés: only begotten
Original Word: μονογενής, ές
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: monogenés
Phonetic Spelling: (mon-og-en-ace')
Definition: only begotten
Usage: only, only-begotten; unique.
Jesus the begotten Son of God:
Hebrews 1
5For to which of the angels did God ever say:
“You are My Son; today I have become Your Father”?
G1080. gennaó
Strong's Concordance
gennaó: to beget, to bring forth
Original Word: γεννάω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: gennaó
Phonetic Spelling: (ghen-nah'-o)
Definition: to beget, to bring forth
Usage: I beget (of the male), (of the female) I bring forth, give birth to.
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Not according to anything in scripture. No where does the Bible say that anyone prays to Jesus. The Bible says we are priests to God through Christ.
Revelation 1:6 - priests to Jesus' God and Father
Revelation 5:9,10 - priests to God
Revelation 20:6 - priests to God
1 Peter 2:5 - priests to God through Christ Jesus.
Revelation 20:6 is part of Scripture.
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All of the Bible says they are priests to God. The idea being conveyed in Revelation 20:6 is they are priests to God through Christ.
1 Peter 2:5 - priests to God through Christ Jesus.
Which doesn't contradict being a priest of Christ (Revelation 20:6).
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Revelation 1:6 says they are priests TO his God and Father.
Revelation 20:6 says they are priests OF God and OF Christ.
They are not priests TO Christ. Big difference.
Bingo. That settles it.
Thank you for helping me sort that out.
Thanks for citing a passage which demonstrates a doxology to the Lord Jesus. A preist of Christ (Revelation 20:6) loves rendering doxologies to Jesus.
