Jesus was never prayed to once in the Bible

[CrowCross]

It plainly says of the Son "Today I have become your Father." Contrary to your claims of Jesus' eternal sonship, the Bible doesn't allow it.

Perhaps rather than fighting the Bible, why not just believe it? What do you lose for believing Scripture?

Why do you fight John 1? Why don't you simply believe that? It says clear as day Jesus (the Word) is God....

It is the bible that says...it was “the Son” who created all things....which would place Jesus squarely in the eternal bracket....Yet you deny that.
If Jesus was created then Jesus didn't create all things....which means your theology has a major big time flaw.

 

[Fred]

There is no passage about Jesus knowing the hearts of "all people." Revelation 2:23 is in regards to the church.

Another assertion of yours that is refuted by what the Bible teaches.

Matthew 23:25-28
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and self-indulgence.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye are like unto whited tombs, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

 

[Runningman]

Another assertion of yours that is refuted by what the Bible teaches.

Matthew 23:25-28
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and self-indulgence.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye are like unto whited tombs, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

That doesn't say he knows all peoples' hearts. That isn't a refute.

 

[Fred]

That doesn't say he knows all peoples' hearts. That isn't a refute.

Combine it with the truth of Revelation 2:23.

 

[Runningman]

Combine it with the truth of Revelation 2:23.

Speaking to the church in Revelation 2:23, Jesus said, I will repay "each one of you" according to their deeds. Nothing about all people. You're reaching.

 

[Fred]

Speaking to the church in Revelation 2:23, Jesus said, I will repay "each one of you" according to their deeds. Nothing about all people. You're reaching.

See my previous post.

Since you pathetically believe Revelation 2:23 refers to the saved then Matthew 23 refers to the unsaved.

All people.

 

[Runningman]

See my previous post.

No need to see it again after I've refuted it.

 

[Fred]

No need to see it again after I've refuted it.

Wishful and delusional thinking on your part.

 

[Runningman]

Wishful and delusional thinking on your part.

Next time try posting scripture that actually says what your commentary asserts.

 

[Fred]

Next time try posting scripture that actually says what your commentary asserts.

Matthew 23 and Revelation 2 are still there.

 

[Fred]

Jesus does not know the hearts of all:

All that is in the heart of every person would be known to the Lord Jesus in order for Him to truly know those who are His (the saved) as well as those who are not His (the unsaved; cf. vv. 17-18).

2 Timothy 2:17-19
(17) And their talk will spread like gangrene: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
(18) Who concerning the truth have departed, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
(19) Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth those who are His. And, let everyone who nameth the Name of the Lord depart from iniquity.


Once again, the OP is refuted.

 

[Runningman]

And yet we still have nothing in the Bible says that says Jesus knows the hearts of all.

 

[Fred]

And yet we still have nothing in the Bible says that says Jesus knows the hearts of all.

Correction: You have nothing.

 

[Runningman]

Correction: You have nothing.

Then please quote the verse that says Jesus knows the hearts of "all." The other option is just say it doesn't exist. No one has found it yet.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

And yet we still have nothing in the Bible says that says Jesus knows the hearts of all.

What kind of foolishness are you on about now. Just stop with your heresies and troublemaking.

 

[grace2]

What kind of foolishness are you on about now. Just stop with your heresies and troublemaking.

You are the ones who is making up the unbiblical stuff.

You have tons and tons of them.

that's what happens when you don't know what the Bible says.

 

[Fred]

Then please quote the verse that says Jesus knows the hearts of "all." The other option is just say it doesn't exist. No one has found it yet.

The Bible doesn't have to cater to how you think it should specifically read.

There is more than one way to express a truth claim.
Get a clue.

 

[Fred]

You are the ones who is making up the unbiblical stuff.

You have tons and tons of them.

that's what happens when you don't know what the Bible says.

Pitiful.

 

[Runningman]

What kind of foolishness are you on about now. Just stop with your heresies and troublemaking.

All denials, no proof on your part. All you need to do to make it go away is to quote scripture that says Jesus knows the hearts of all.

 

[Runningman]

The Bible doesn't have to cater to how you think it should specifically read.

There is more than one way to express a truth claim.
Get a clue.

Another swing and a miss. Got anything that says Jesus knows the hearts of all? This isn't supposed to be difficult for you. You should have things in the Bible that say what you claim. If you don't, then just change the subject or begin conforming to what the Bible says. Your call.