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Christians do not, cannot know Christ the invisible head after any rudiment of this dying world.
We cannot know Christ our husband the power that worked in Jesus the Son of man a dying rudiment of this world .
You've moved the goalposts.
Furthermore, you're making a circular, nonsensical argument. You just said Christ is the power that worked in Jesus, or Christ is the power that worked in the Christ
. Now maybe that last part is a typo, or the product of using a cellphone, but what it says is Jesus is the dying rudiment of the world. That's crazy
.
It would seem Roman 1 :18 -32 is supporting the law that we cannot know Christ the husband as the invisible King of kings the majesty and sovereignty of God. . . By looking at that dying rudiments of this world.............
No, Romans 1 is making the exact opposite point. The power of God (Jesus is the power of God) is visible by what has been made, and His power is visible in such a manner that
none are without excuse,
and this is said of sinful God-deniers living in a sinfully dying world. There are no God deniers in a pre-Genesis 3:7 world. That entire passage is about condition of a post-Genesis 3:7 world. Even with the lethal effects of sin corrupting the human who lives in the world in which sin has entered and brought with it transgressional death, "
that which is known about God is evident within them; because God made it evident to them."
Flesh signified as sinful was needed to do what the Bible. .
letter of the law (death) could not do give
eternal spirit life.
Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was
weak (no power) through the
flesh, God sending
his own
Son in the
likeness of
sinful flesh, and for
sin, condemned sin in the
flesh:
John 6:63 It is the
spirit that
quickeneth; the
flesh profiteth nothing: the
words that
I speak unto
you,
they are
spirit, and
they are
life.
His living word (Let there be) powerfully creates new spirit life giving new creatures new life . .Its not by literal bread alone . the bread the disciples knew not of a first Doing the will of the father that worked in him to
both hear and to do the will in the name or power of the invisible head .(Philippians 2)
The Son of man Jesus declared his flesh a rudiment of this world has no power to profit. . deader than a door nail in trespass and sins beyond a living hope .
All of that is true but you have failed to reconcile that with the fact we still see with the same eyes of sinful flesh, we still hear with the same ears of sinful flesh and we still speak with the mouth of sinful flesh and
it is these still-sinful rudiments of the flesh that God uses when He drags a person to Christ and changed the person He is saving! Volitionalism is the worldly philosophy asserting sinful will is salient! It is the philosophy (theology) that says sinful flesh professes a faith prior to regeneration that is the worldly philosophy. Monergism argues it is all transformed (by God alone) prior to faith. That transformation does not stop flesh from being flesh. It stops the flesh from being fleshly, not flesh. Or, more accurately, it empowers a person to use His God-made faculties through the power of the Spirit, not sin. It's still flesh, it's just not fleshly flesh. When Jesus resurrected, he showed himself to others, demonstrating he was still flesh and bone. He is not invisible (as was earlier asserted).
The Colossian references you offered follows the loving commandment earlier in the context.( verse 8)
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the
rudiments of the
world, and
not after
Christ.
We cannot know Christ our husband the power that worked in Jesus the Son of man a dying rudiment of this world.
We walk by the unseen eternal things of God. Not after the temporal dying things. The two (temporal historical and eternal )must be mixed or no gospel rest according to Hebrew 4.
You're moving the goalposts again, and possibly conflating flesh with "
temporal" in inappropriate ways. Adam and Eve were made of flesh and declared good. They were made mortal, and it was declared good. They were made in a temporal world that was temporary (not just temporal) and it was called good.
None of those conditions is inherently bad. They are all, in fact, inherently good, according to Genesis 1:31. The problem is sin's corruption, not an inherent badness of the things God made. If Jesus is the tree of life in the garden, then Jesus is knowable in the flesh. He's just not knowable by sinful flesh. BIG difference. We, the redeemed and regenerate still live in temporal bodies made of flesh and blood when we come to know Christ, but it is a transformed body of flesh and blood, and we don't know him according to the
sinful flesh. To know Jesus by the Spirit does not preclude the brain of flesh from knowing and understanding Jesus. Regenerate people do not have a new organ added to their physiology, a specially designated organ of non-flesh by which Jesus is known. Paul was writing to people with a hand of flesh, using a writing instrument made of temporal material, and he was writing to people who were reading the letter with their eyes made out of flesh or hearing the worlds read with ears made of flesh and the information went into their brains that are made of flesh.
Failing to
correctly discriminate what "
flesh" means leads to bad thinking, bad doctrine, and bad practice.
The new heavens and earth, new elements not after the corruptipted dying. . . . new periodic table.
Red herring. No one said it was.
I am not confused or lack of comprehension of the majesty and sovereignty of God the invisible head .
The posts prove otherwise.
(this would be true whether one considers it from the Calvinist ~OR~ the Arminian POV).
