Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

[Hobie]

I am not saying that those who produce lexicons are similar to the hypocritical Pharisees. I am saying that not all the kinds of technical expertise which can be achieved through meticulous study alone will necessarily lead one to the truth on a given matter. It takes the Holy Spirit giving illumination of the meaning behind that knowledge. And we all have access to that One Spirit which "leads us into all truth" if we are in Christ.

Yes, with only knowledge, you still may be blind and spiritually dead, need the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Hobie]

Not getting in the middle between you but I want clarity from your beliefs, so I can follow along better. Are we to understand that you feel that all non-Christian / unsaved people (leave the Jews out of this for a minute)should be suffering for an eternity in some manner? That to perish or cease to exist is too good for them?

Won't you allow for some exception for people like Mother Teresa who, while at times did not even believe in God, faithfully fulfilled what she thought she ought to be doing with her life in help and service to a lost people? Yet without a true Christian belief?.

We cannot judge who is saved and who is not, that is up to God. But no one that continues in sin will go to heaven and be in the kingdom with Christ, they will perish in the lake of fire.

 

[Hobie]

This still dodges the fact that if the unsaved were blipped out of existence they would not have to worry about the same things believers are blessed with in that they no longer have to experienced.
They (the unsaved) would be blessed with the same thing.


No, in yours.

Well, I think the verse explains itself if you look..
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Revelation 21:1-4