Annihilationism is taught in the bible

[Eleanor]

So you're a "Baby burner", then??

No more than God is a baby killer (1 Sa 15:3).

 

[Bob Carabbio]

No more than God is a baby-killer (1 Sa 15:3).

Since according to you, "Babies are Born in Spiritual death", then sending 'em to HELL is all God could do if they croak in SIN before getting saved. "Catholics" invented "Limbo" to take care of the issue.

They also invented "Original SIN" so they could have a reason to practice Paedobaptism (I was a beautiful baby when they wet the top of me. Got the pictures to prove it).

Personally, I expect to meet Angeline (our first born who only made it 4 hours after delivery) in heaven, and get to know her as she is now.

! Sam 15:3, of course has nothing to do with it.

 

[Eleanor]

! Sam 15:3, of course has nothing to do with it.

1 Sa 15:3 has as much to do with it as does baby burning, which then would be nothing.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

1 Sa 15:3 has as much to do with it as does baby burning, which then would be nothing.

SO obviously you have no idea about babies at all. Thanks for clarifying that.

 

[Eleanor]

SO obviously you have no idea about babies at all. Thanks for clarifying that.

Do you?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Do you?

Absolutely!! - Answered above.

Bottom line: People are born INNOCENT, and inherit NOTHING from Adam, other that the SAME human nature he was created with. "Sin Nature" is nothing but a "theological" concept, based on NOTHING.

And invariably when we get older, we'll SIN, and fall short of God's Glory.

We all - Adam, Me, Jesus, and you, all have/had the SAME NATURE, that follows the "temptation process" in James 1.

Adam and Eve WERE NOT CURSED after the fall - only two things were: The Earth, and the Serpent.

Adam's "nature" never changed, but his environment did - his "Free lunch" was GONE, and he had to WORK to survive. AND the environment became affected by VANITY.

 

[Eleanor]

Absolutely!! - Answered above.

Bottom line: People are born INNOCENT,

Paul does not agree.

We are by nature objects of wrath (Eph 2:3), and we are born with our nature.

All mankind is condemned by Adam's sin (Ro 5:18).

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Paul does not agree.

We are by nature objects of wrath (Eph 2:3), and we are born with our nature.

All mankind is condemned by Adam's sin (Ro 5:18).

So the scriptures that say that we're NOT condemned by other people's SIN are lies, according to you??

 

[Eleanor]

So the scriptures that say that we're NOT condemned by other people's SIN are lies, according to you??

Scripture does not say "we are not condemned by other people's sin."
Scripture states that we do not inherit our parents' sin.

And we do not inherit Adam's guilt/sin, it is imputed to all those of Adam (Ro 5:12-14),
just as righteousness is imputed through faith to all those of Christ (Ro 4:1-12, 5:18-19), as it was imputed to Abraham through faith (Ge 15:6).

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Scripture does not say "we are not condemned by other people's sin."
Scripture states that we do not inherit our parents' sin.

And we do not inherit Adam's guilt/sin, it is imputed to all those of Adam (Ro 5:12-14),
just as righteousness is imputed through faith to all those of Christ (Ro 4:1-12, 5:18-19), as it was imputed to Abraham through faith (Ge 15:6).

Chuckle!! GOOD Word games!!!!

SO obviously ALL BABIES, ALL aborted fetuses, and ALL young children who haven't been Born Again yet, go directly to HELL for eternity if they croak early. Thanks for clearing that up!!

 

[Eleanor]

Chuckle!! GOOD Word games!!!!

SO obviously ALL BABIES, ALL aborted fetuses, and ALL young children who haven't been Born Again yet, go directly to HELL for eternity if they croak early. Thanks for clearing that up!!

It's a whole lot more clear than that.

All those not predestined for heaven do not go there, no matter what their age.

All those predestined for heaven go there, no matter what their age.

 

[Johan]

And we do not inherit Adam's guilt/sin, it is imputed to all those of Adam (Ro 5:12-14),
just as righteousness is imputed through faith to all those of Christ (Ro 4:1-12, 5:18-19), as it was imputed to Abraham through faith (Ge 15:6).

Psa 51:5 Behold,H2005 Interjection hên- הֵן־ in iniquity;H5771 Prep-b+N-cs bə·‘ā·wō·wn בְּעָו֥וֹן I was brought forthH2342 V-Pual-Perf-1cs ḥō·w·lā·lə·tî חוֹלָ֑לְתִּי and in sinH2399 Conj-w-Prep-b+N-ms ū·ḇə·ḥêṭ וּ֝בְחֵ֗טְא conceived meH3179 V-Piel-Perf-3fs+1cs ye·ḥĕ·maṯ·nî יֶֽחֱמַ֥תְנִי my mother.H517 N-fsc+1cs ’im·mî אִמִּֽי׃

Psa 51:5 (7) Surely, I was brought forth in avon; and in chet did immi conceive me [i.e., I was a sinner from conception].

Psa 51:5 (50:7) ιδου 2400[INJ] γαρ 1063[PRT] εν 1722[PREP] ανομιαις 458[N-DPF] συνελημφθην 4815[V-API-1S] και 2532[CONJ] εν 1722[PREP] αμαρτιαις 266[N-DPF] εκισσησεν [V-AAI-3S] με 1473[P-AS] η 3588[T-NSF] μητηρ 3384[N-NSF] μου 1473[P-GS]

Psa 51:5 הֵן־ H2005 hen- Behold בְּעָו֥וֹן H5771 be·'a·Von in iniquity חוֹלָ֑לְתִּי H2342 cho·Lal·ti; Behold I was shapen וּ֝בְחֵ֗טְא H2399 u·ve·Chet, and in sin יֶֽחֱמַ֥תְנִי H3179 ye·che·Mat·ni conceive אִמִּֽי׃ H517 'im·Mi. did my mother

5 Indeed, I was guilty when I was born;
I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
Conj-w,Prep-b+N-ms (BSB Morphology)
Conjunctive waw, Preposition-b
+ Noun - masculine singular
Lemma: חֵטא
Word: וּ֝בְחֵ֗טְא
Transliteration: ū·ḇə·ḥêṭ
English: and in sin
H2399 (Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments)
H2399 חֵטא chet' (chate) n-m.
1. a moral failing (i.e. a particular act or crime, or its penalty).
2. sin penalty.
[from H2398]
KJV: fault, X grievously, offence, (punishment of) sin.
Root(s): H2398
See also: H2401

51:5 This verse may go with Ps. 51:1-4. It is not an excuse but the terrible reality of the fallen human condition (cf. Gen. 8:21; 1 Kgs. 8:46; Job 14:1-4; 15:14; 25:4; Ps. 58:3; Pro. 20:9; Isa. 48:8; Rom. 3:9-18,23; Eph. 2:3; all express the reality of the fall of mankind in Genesis 3. It is true that most rabbis emphasized the origin of sin as Genesis 6. The Apostle Paul is the NT author who focuses on Genesis 3 as the source of sin and its consequences).

For me the theological issue is the sinfulness of children before the age of moral responsibility. Calvinism has emphasized the total depravity of mankind, in all areas, from birth to death. I am more drawn to the concept of informed human volition. This means that until a child knows he/she is breaking God's laws, they are not! Sin involves open-eyed rebellion! We are sinners in Adam/Eve (cf. Rom. 5:12-21) and also we choose to sin. Both are true!

51:6-9 The psalmist is asking God to restore him to his previous place/state of fellowship. He has acknowledged his sin (Ps. 51:3-4) and asked for forgiveness (Ps. 51:1-2). This strophe repeats these.

1. acknowledge his sins

a. Ps. 51:5

b. two imperatives

(1) "hide Your face from my sins" – BDB 711, KB 771, Hiphil imperative

(2) "blot out all my iniquities" – same as Ps. 51:1 (the "book of God" is also mentioned in Ps. 139:16, see note on "secret" below)

2. desires forgiveness

a. God desires "truth in the innermost being" (BDB 711, note the use of "secret" [BDB 712] in Ps. 139:15)

b. God please make that truth known

c. prayer requests (6 imperfects)

(1) purify me – BDB 306, KB 305, Piel imperfect

(2) I shall be clean – BDB 372, KB 369, Qal imperfect (i.e., result of being purified)

(3) wash me – BDB 460, KB 459, Piel imperfect

(4) I shall be whiter than snow – BDB 526, KB 517, Hiphil imperfect (i.e., result of being washed, cf. Isa. 1:18)

(5) make me to hear joy (BDB 965) and gladness (BDB 970) – BDB 1033, KB 1570, Hiphil imperfect

(6) let the bones. . .rejoice – BDB 162, KB 189, Qal imperfect ("broken bones" were an OT idiom of divine judgment, cf. Isa. 38:13; Lam. 3:4)

The psalmist deeply desires that the intimate fellowship he had known with God, which was damaged by his sin, be restored by God's grace and mercy.
Good Ol' Utley.

J.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

All those predestined for heaven go there, no matter what their age.

How's THAT possible since they're guilty of Adam's SIN and not born again??? SO you're telling me that the "Elect" don't have to be Born Again to enter heaven????

Creative!!!!

 

[Eleanor]

How's THAT possible since they're guilty of Adam's SIN and not born again??? SO you're telling me that the "Elect" don't have to be Born Again to enter heaven????

Creative!!!!

Indeed, God is!

I'm telling you that God's will is accomplished.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

And we do not inherit Adam's guilt/sin, it is imputed to all those of Adam (Ro 5:12-14),

So obviously "Adam's SIN" is inherited. You're just playing word games. The ONLY THING "Imputed" to us from Adam is the HUMAN NATURE he was created with. EVerybody dies FOR THEIR OWN SIN, not his. Your "Romans cite" agrees.

just as righteousness is imputed through faith to all those of Christ (Ro 4:1-12, 5:18-19), as it was imputed to Abraham through faith (Ge 15:6).

False dichotomy. OF COURSE Righteousness is IMPUTED when one is Born Again. That has nothing whatsoever to do with "Adam's SIN being imputed to those WHO HAVE NO SIN".

You actually believe that God incinerates EVERY aborted fetus, and EVERY baby/child that dies prematurely, BECAUSE OF ADAM'S SIN?????

 

[Eleanor]

So obviously "Adam's SIN" is inherited. You're just playing word games. The ONLY THING "Imputed" to us from Adam is the HUMAN NATURE he was created with. EVerybody dies FOR THEIR OWN SIN, not his. Your "Romans cite" agrees.

We inherit our human nature from our human parents.

Adam's sin is imputed to us (Ro 5:12-14) just as forensic righeousness is imputed to us through faith (Ro 4:1-12), as it was to Abraham (Ge 15:6).

False dichotomy. OF COURSE Righteousness is IMPUTED when one is Born Again. That has nothing whatsoever to do with "Adam's SIN being imputed to those WHO HAVE NO SIN".

See Ro 5:12-14.

Of what sin did all mankind die when there was no sin (because there was no law with death penalty attached) to charge against them because there was no law between Adam and Moses?

You actually believe that God incinerates EVERY aborted fetus, and EVERY baby/child that dies prematurely, BECAUSE OF ADAM'S SIN?????

You'll have to take that up with Paul where we are by nature, with which we are born, objects of wrath (Eph 2:3),
and where all mankind is condemned by the one sin of Adam (Ro 5:18).

I choose to believe the word of God over my human sentiments.
You should do the same.

 

[Johan]

You'll have to take that up with Paul where we are by nature, with which we are born, objects of wrath (Eph 2:3),

"by nature"
This refers to mankind's fallen, Adamic propensities (cf. Genesis 3; Ps. 51:5; Job 14:4; Rom. 5:12-21; 7:14-25). It is surprising that the rabbis in general do not emphasize the fall of humanity in Genesis 3. They instead assert that mankind has two intents (yetzers), one good, one bad. Humans are dominated by their choices. There is a famous rabbinical proverb: "Every man has a black and a white dog in his heart. The one he feeds the most is the one that becomes the biggest."

However, the NT presents several theological reasons for mankind's sin (1) the fall of Adam; (2) willful ignorance; and (3) sinful choices.

"children of wrath" "Children of. . .", like "sons of. . .", is an Hebraic idiomatic phrase for a person's character. God is opposed to sin and rebellion in His creation. The wrath of God is both temporal (in time) and eschatological (at the end of time).

NASB"even as the rest"
NKJV"made us sit together"
NRSV, TEV"like everyone else"
NJB"as the rest of the world"

This refers to the lostness of all humans, both Jew and Gentile (cf. Rom. 1:18-3:21). Paul uses the term "rest" to refer to the lost (cf. 1 Thess. 4:13; 5:6).

2:4 "But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us" There is such a dramatic switch between the hopelessness and helplessness of fallen mankind in Eph. 2:1-3 and the marvelous grace and mercy of God in Eph. 2:4-7.

What a great truth! God's mercy and love are the keys to salvation (cf. Eph. 2:7). It is His merciful character (cf. Exod. 34:6; Neh. 9:17; Ps. 86:15; 103:8; 145:8-9; Eph. 1:7,18; 2:7; 3:8,16, not mankind's performance, that offers a way of righteousness (cf. Rom 3:21-31). See note on "riches" at Eph. 1:7.

It is significant that this verse on God's grace contains a present participle and an aorist active indicative. God has loved us in the past (cf. John 3:16; 1 John 4:9-10) and continues to love us (cf. 1 John 4:7-8, 16)!

2:5 "even when we were dead in our transgressions,"
This phrase is parallel to Eph. 2:1a. Paul returns to his original thought after his parenthetical thought (cf. Eph. 2:1-3) about the lostness of mankind. In the midst of our need, God acted in love (cf. Rom. 5:6,8).

"made us alive together with Christ"
This English phrase reflects one Greek word (suzōpoieō). This is the main verb of the sentence (aorist active indicative) which begins in Eph. 2:1. This is the first of three compound aorist verbs with the Greek preposition, syn, which meant "joint participation with." Jesus was raised from the dead in Eph. 1:20 and believers have been quickened to spiritual life through Him (cf. Col. 2:13; 3:1). Believers are now truly alive with Christ. We have resurrection life now! Death, the last enemy, has been defeated (cf. 1 Cor. 15).

2:5,8 "by grace you have been saved"
This is a Perfect passive periphrastic participle, repeated in Eph. 2:8 for emphasis. This meant that believers have been saved in the past, by an outside agent, with abiding results; "they have been and continue to be saved by God." This same construction is repeated in Eph. 2:8 for emphasis. See Special Topic at Eph. 1:7.

This is one of the biblical passages which forms the basis for the doctrine of the security of the believer (cf. John 6:37, 39; 10:28; 17:2, 24; 18:9; Rom. 8:31-39). Like all biblical doctrines, it must be balanced (held in tension) with other truths and texts.
Utley

Thank God for His Chesed!
J.

 

[Red Baker]

That's what we do here. It's just "theology".

I think it is called~Apologetics is quite literally defense of the faith; the Greek word apologia means “defense” as a lawyer gives at a trial. In every generation, people face the challenges, questions, and concerns of the gospel message of the Christian faith.

I take this serious but you seem to love to play word games.

I'm coming back early in the morning the Lord willing to prove from the holy scriptures just how far you are from the truth at the moment, I trust it will change.~but only by the power of God opening hearts will any one come to the knwoledge of the truth.

Later...RB

 

[Eleanor]

Psa 51:5 Behold,H2005 Interjection hên- הֵן־ in iniquity;H5771 Prep-b+N-cs bə·‘ā·wō·wn בְּעָו֥וֹן I was brought forthH2342 V-Pual-Perf-1cs ḥō·w·lā·lə·tî חוֹלָ֑לְתִּי and in sinH2399 Conj-w-Prep-b+N-ms ū·ḇə·ḥêṭ וּ֝בְחֵ֗טְא conceived meH3179 V-Piel-Perf-3fs+1cs ye·ḥĕ·maṯ·nî יֶֽחֱמַ֥תְנִי my mother.H517 N-fsc+1cs ’im·mî אִמִּֽי׃
Psa 51:5 (7) Surely, I was brought forth in avon; and in chet did immi conceive me [i.e., I was a sinner from conception].
Psa 51:5 (50:7) ιδου 2400[INJ] γαρ 1063[PRT] εν 1722[PREP] ανομιαις 458[N-DPF] συνελημφθην 4815[V-API-1S] και 2532[CONJ] εν 1722[PREP] αμαρτιαις 266[N-DPF] εκισσησεν [V-AAI-3S] με 1473[P-AS] η 3588[T-NSF] μητηρ 3384[N-NSF] μου 1473[P-GS]
Psa 51:5 הֵן־ H2005 hen- Behold בְּעָו֥וֹן H5771 be·'a·Von in iniquity חוֹלָ֑לְתִּי H2342 cho·Lal·ti; Behold I was shapen וּ֝בְחֵ֗טְא H2399 u·ve·Chet, and in sin יֶֽחֱמַ֥תְנִי H3179 ye·che·Mat·ni conceive אִמִּֽי׃ H517 'im·Mi. did my mother
5 Indeed, I was guilty when I was born;
I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
Conj-w,Prep-b+N-ms (BSB Morphology)
Conjunctive waw, Preposition-b
+ Noun - masculine singular
Lemma: חֵטא
Word: וּ֝בְחֵ֗טְא
Transliteration: ū·ḇə·ḥêṭ
English: and in sin
H2399 (Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments)
H2399 חֵטא chet' (chate) n-m.
1. a moral failing (i.e. a particular act or crime, or its penalty).
2. sin penalty.
[from H2398]
KJV: fault, X grievously, offence, (punishment of) sin.
Root(s): H2398
See also: H2401
51:5 This verse may go with Ps. 51:1-4. It is not an excuse but the terrible reality of the fallen human condition (cf. Gen. 8:21; 1 Kgs. 8:46; Job 14:1-4; 15:14; 25:4; Ps. 58:3; Pro. 20:9; Isa. 48:8; Rom. 3:9-18,23; Eph. 2:3; all express the reality of the fall of mankind in Genesis 3. It is true that most rabbis emphasized the origin of sin as Genesis 6. The Apostle Paul is the NT author who focuses on Genesis 3 as the source of sin and its consequences).

For me the theological issue is the sinfulness of children before the age of moral responsibility. Calvinism has emphasized the total depravity of mankind, in all areas, from birth to death. I am more drawn to the concept of informed human volition. This means that until a child knows he/she is breaking God's laws, they are not! Sin involves open-eyed rebellion! We are sinners in Adam/Eve (cf. Rom. 5:12-21) and also we choose to sin. Both are true!

It seems that Scripture does not present us as sinners because we sin, but rather that we sin because we are sinners.

Infants are born with an inherited sinful nature. St Peter doesn't give their sinful nature a pass at the pearly gate.

Rattelsnakes are rattlesnakes from birth. From the day they are born in my backyard, they are enemies of my children.
And as with St. Peter, they don't get a pass from me just because they are babies.

That is why God had the infants and children of his enemies killed in 1 Sa 15:3, because they would grow up to also be his enemies.
They would not become his enemies because they killed his people, they would kill his people because they were his enemies.

We are born with a sinful nature. We do not become God's enemies (Ro 5:10) by sinning, we sin because we are God's enemies, we are by nature (with which we are born) objects of his wrath (Eh 2:3).

Ps. 51:6-9 The psalmist is asking God to restore him to his previous place/state of fellowship. He has acknowledged his sin (Ps. 51:3-4) and asked for forgiveness (Ps. 51:1-2). This strophe repeats these.
1. acknowledge his sins
a. Ps. 51:5
b. two imperatives
(1) "hide Your face from my sins" – BDB 711, KB 771, Hiphil imperative
(2) "blot out all my iniquities" – same as Ps. 51:1 (the "book of God" is also mentioned in Ps. 139:16, see note on "secret" below)
2. desires forgiveness
a. God desires "truth in the innermost being" (BDB 711, note the use of "secret" [BDB 712] in Ps. 139:15)
b. God please make that truth known
c. prayer requests (6 imperfects)
(1) purify me – BDB 306, KB 305, Piel imperfect
(2) I shall be clean – BDB 372, KB 369, Qal imperfect (i.e., result of being purified)
(3) wash me – BDB 460, KB 459, Piel imperfect
(4) I shall be whiter than snow – BDB 526, KB 517, Hiphil imperfect (i.e., result of being washed, cf. Isa. 1:18)
(5) make me to hear joy (BDB 965) and gladness (BDB 970) – BDB 1033, KB 1570, Hiphil imperfect
(6) let the bones. . .rejoice – BDB 162, KB 189, Qal imperfect ("broken bones" were an OT idiom of divine judgment, cf. Isa. 38:13; Lam. 3:4)
The psalmist deeply desires that the intimate fellowship he had known with God, which was damaged by his sin, be restored by God's grace and mercy.
Good Ol' Utley.
J.

 

[Eleanor]

"by nature"
This refers to mankind's fallen, Adamic propensities (cf. Genesis 3; Ps. 51:5; Job 14:4; Rom. 5:12-21; 7:14-25). It is surprising that the rabbis in general do not emphasize the fall of humanity in Genesis 3. They instead assert that mankind has two intents (yetzers), one good, one bad. Humans are dominated by their choices. There is a famous rabbinical proverb: "Every man has a black and a white dog in his heart. The one he feeds the most is the one that becomes the biggest."

However, the NT presents several theological reasons for mankind's sin (1) the fall of Adam; (2) willful ignorance; and (3) sinful choices.

Does not the NT present those propensities of our nature as objects of God's wrath (Eph 2:3)?

"children of wrath" "Children of. . .", like "sons of. . .", is an Hebraic idiomatic phrase for a person's character. God is opposed to sin and rebellion in His creation. The wrath of God is both temporal (in time) and eschatological (at the end of time).

I see Paul's NT revelation from Jesus Christ personally (Gal 1:11-12) as much more precise and informative than the Hebrew idiomatic phrases of OT revelation. Eph 2 is a prime example of such.

With Paul, "by nature children of wrath" (Eph 2:3) is not just an idiomatic phrase, he is revealing spiritual literal fact from Jesus Christ.
All of Paul's revelation from Jesus has this quality of spiritual literal fact--the facts (blessings) of Eph 2 being nothing short of spiritually staggering.
Paul's revelations from Jesus are not to be taken as Hebrew idioms, they are given as literal spiritual fact. . .which would not even be thought of apart from Christ's revelation to Paul.

NASB"even as the rest"
NKJV"made us sit together"
NRSV, TEV"like everyone else"
NJB"as the rest of the world"
This refers to the lostness of all humans, both Jew and Gentile (cf. Rom. 1:18-3:21). Paul uses the term "rest" to refer to the lost (cf. 1 Thess. 4:13; 5:6).
2:4 "But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us" There is such a dramatic switch between the hopelessness and helplessness of fallen mankind in Eph. 2:1-3 and the marvelous grace and mercy of God in Eph. 2:4-7.
What a great truth! God's mercy and love are the keys to salvation (cf. Eph. 2:7). It is His merciful character (cf. Exod. 34:6; Neh. 9:17; Ps. 86:15; 103:8; 145:8-9; Eph. 1:7,18; 2:7; 3:8,16, not mankind's performance, that offers a way of righteousness (cf. Rom 3:21-31). See note on "riches" at Eph. 1:7.
It is significant that this verse on God's grace contains a present participle and an aorist active indicative. God has loved us in the past (cf. John 3:16; 1 John 4:9-10) and continues to love us (cf. 1 John 4:7-8, 16)!
2:5 "even when we were dead in our transgressions,"
This phrase is parallel to Eph. 2:1a. Paul returns to his original thought after his parenthetical thought (cf. Eph. 2:1-3) about the lostness of mankind. In the midst of our need, God acted in love (cf. Rom. 5:6,8).
"made us alive together with Christ"
This English phrase reflects one Greek word (suzōpoieō). This is the main verb of the sentence (aorist active indicative) which begins in Eph. 2:1. This is the first of three compound aorist verbs with the Greek preposition, syn, which meant "joint participation with." Jesus was raised from the dead in Eph. 1:20 and believers have been quickened to spiritual life through Him (cf. Col. 2:13; 3:1). Believers are now truly alive with Christ. We have resurrection life now! Death, the last enemy, has been defeated (cf. 1 Cor. 15).
2:5,8 "by grace you have been saved"
This is a Perfect passive periphrastic participle, repeated in Eph. 2:8 for emphasis. This meant that believers have been saved in the past, by an outside agent, with abiding results; "they have been and continue to be saved by God." This same construction is repeated in Eph. 2:8 for emphasis. See Special Topic at Eph. 1:7.
This is one of the biblical passages which forms the basis for the doctrine of the security of the believer (cf. John 6:37, 39; 10:28; 17:2, 24; 18:9; Rom. 8:31-39). Like all biblical doctrines, it must be balanced (held in tension) with other truths and texts.
Utley
Thank God for His Chesed!
J.