The Hell of the Bible Explained!

[Mr GLee]

"Belly of Hell" are not in the original text.

"Heart of the Earth" is a Catholic doctrine. Hell is not a teaching or belief in Judaism.

I am certain that Christ did not come here to introduce Pagan beliefs.

Hi Thanks

I agree did not come to introduce Pagan beliefs (out of sight out of mind)

Belly of the whale. . sufferings crying out for strength and was strengthened by the power of the father with both parables used as a witness that Christ was yoked with them .Heart of earth same suffering . Belly of Hell or Heart of the Whale .Six of one a half dozen of another .

Living sacrifice, pouring out His Spirt life on dying flesh. Not dead sacrifice never to rise to new spirit life

He does not hear the prayers of what some call patron saints. The living seeking after the dead legion.

 

[Mr GLee]

Where does Rev 20:10 fit in this idea that hell is not biblical but Pagan?

Its Biblical defined as it is written .Not pagan oral tradition.

It (hell) suffering, is real every day we live in these earthen bodies called death Christ calls powerless .

Believers today Yoked with Christ like Abel.

Abel received the gospel rest making his daily burdens lighter with a living hope beyond the grave.

When the first murderer of the father of lies occurred the whole creation was cursed corrupted, As hell he increased the work load Cain became a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth. the sufferings of hell was greater than he could bear (death)

Genesis 4:12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear

Cain a restless wanderer all the days of his life always looking behind. . . no strength from the Father to lead.

No early parole . No get out of jail free card like that of Abel lol

 

[CherubRam]

In Greek mythology,( something twisted by satan) It doesn't exist. The grave is real. The bible says Jesus went to Hades= the Grave for 3 days.

Hades is a Pagan word that does not belong in the bible.

 

[CherubRam]

Hi Thanks

I agree did not come to introduce Pagan beliefs (out of sight out of mind)

Belly of the whale. . sufferings crying out for strength and was strengthened by the power of the father with both parables used as a witness that Christ was yoked with them .Heart of earth same suffering . Belly of Hell or Heart of the Whale .Six of one a half dozen of another .

Living sacrifice, pouring out His Spirt life on dying flesh. Not dead sacrifice never to rise to new spirit life

He does not hear the prayers of what some call patron saints. The living seeking after the dead legion.

I thought I would point out that Yahshua said he would be in the grave, not in the heart of the earth. Another Pagan belief.

 

[Rella]

Its Biblical defined as it is written .Not pagan oral tradition.

It (hell) suffering, is real every day we live in these earthen bodies called death Christ calls powerless .

Believers today Yoked with Christ like Abel.

Abel received the gospel rest making his daily burdens lighter with a living hope beyond the grave.

When the first murderer of the father of lies occurred the whole creation was cursed corrupted, As hell he increased the work load Cain became a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth. the sufferings of hell was greater than he could bear (death)

Genesis 4:12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear

Cain a restless wanderer all the days of his life always looking behind. . . no strength from the Father to lead.

No early parole . No get out of jail free card like that of Abel lol

Sorry, I am confused.

Are you indicating that there is no eternal fire that we could experience for even a short point before the everlasting death?

We dont need to worry about what was said " Matt 10:28 “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

or as the Aramaic states.

“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul; rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”

 

[CherubRam]

It does not say that. It says tormented day and night yada,yada.

I believe you are not talking about Rev 20:10 but more likely Rev 22:19 where if you add or take away from the book you can have your name removed... RUBBED OUT... FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE.

You want to use Websters definitions.

1
: extreme pain or anguish of body or mind : agony
She wrung her hands piteously together, looking like a soul in torment.—Lucy Maud Montgomery


2
: a source of vexation or pain
Love is a delight; but hate a torment.—Herman Melville

… the twin torments of his probable manic depression and chronic stomach pains.—Neal Karlen


3
: the infliction of torture (as by rack or wheel)

And it is NOT a parable, it is a metaphor at best.

What is it with you people who toss the p and m words around like jelly beans anytime you cannot fathom what you are reading.And then scrounge around for something that suits you.

Sheeesh. I just was exchanging with another, elsewhere who claimed that the Hebrew translation was mistranslated from Latin.

You have trouble with the Greek translations?

Lets look at the Apocrypha

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Lets look at Aramaic, from the Peshitta

ואכלקרצא מטעינהון אתרמי בימתא דנורא וכבריתא איכא דחיותא ונביא דגלא ונשתנקון איממא ולליא לעלם עלמין܂

και ο διαβολος ο πλανων αυτους εβληθη εις την λιμνην του πυρος και θειου οπου το θηριον και ο ψευδοπροφητης και βασανισθησονται ημερας και νυκτος εις τους αιωνας των αιωνων10

Etheridge translation:

20:10 And the accuser who seduced them was cast into the lake of fire and of sulphur, as was also the beast of prey and the false prophet; and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Murdock translation:

20:10 And the Accuser who seduced them, was cast into the lake of fire and sulphur, where also were the beast of prey and the false prophet: and they shall be tormented, day and night, for ever and ever.

Interlinear translation:

10And their Seducer, The Devil, was cast into The Lake of Fire and Brimstone where The Beast and The False Prophet are, and they shall be tormented day and night for the eternity of eternities.

The complete Jewish Bible

10 The Adversary who had deceived them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Ya want some more? Revelation 20:10 - Compare Bible Verse Translations

Compare Translations for Revelation 20:10​

You have to do your own translating for this
Read Revelation (RSVA)
SBL Greek New Testament
10 καὶ ὁ διάβολος ὁ πλανῶν αὐτοὺς ἐβλήθη εἰς τὴν λίμνην τοῦ πυρὸς καὶ θείου, ὅπου καὶ τὸ θηρίον καὶ ὁ ψευδοπροφήτης, καὶ βασανισθήσονται ἡμέρας καὶ νυκτὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων.

AND

The Latin Vulgate
10 et pseudoprophetes et cruciabuntur die ac nocte in saecula saeculorum

Different languages... saying the same thing.

NOW where is YOUR translation with your Touchstone in it.

The word "touch stone" was given the INTERPRETATION of (torment-ed.)
It is a parable that means the person has been (rubbed out.) DEAD.

Rubbed out: Definition of RUB OUT

 

[CherubRam]

Sorry, I am confused.

Are you indicating that there is no eternal fire that we could experience for even a short point before the everlasting death?

We dont need to worry about what was said " Matt 10:28 “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

or as the Aramaic states.

“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul; rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”

Gehenna is a word used as a parable to mean destroyed. It was where broken pottery was dumped.

 

[Mr GLee]

Gehenna is a word used as a parable to mean destroyed. It was where broken pottery was dumped.

Hi Thanks

I would offer..

The field of clay or field of blood .

Clay. . . water + dry land. It represents blood. Blood represent spirit life. Dry land and water used that way many, many times. Focusing on the Potter

Acts 1:18-20King James Version Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

I thought I would point out that Yahshua said he would be in the grave, not in the heart of the earth. Another Pagan belief.

Heart of the earth to represent sufferings. Abel like all sons of God blood cries out .for a incorruptible body.

Genesis 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

Matthew 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

A to Z

Tomb above ground is used .Not grave. Grave no chance of breathings.

Christ suffered pouring out His Spirt life on dying flesh, He cannot die.

Belly of the Whale. Must be the same in that parallel parable. The three day and night propmised demonstration Suffering unto death .Heart of earth. By his wounds we are healed .

Belly whale trouble with wife. . . the heart of the matter .lol

Earth and heart used that way throughout 21 times .

Where your heart is there we can find his treasure .

Yoked with Him our sufferings can be made lighter with a living hope beyond the grave

Luke 12:34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

 

[Viking123]

Hades is a Pagan word that does not belong in the bible.

Hades is a Greek word=the Hebrew word Sheol.

 

[CherubRam]

Hi Thanks

I would offer..

The field of clay or field of blood .

Clay. . . water + dry land. It represents blood. Blood represent spirit life. Dry land and water used that way many, many times. Focusing on the Potter

Acts 1:18-20King James Version Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.



Heart of the earth to represent sufferings. Abel like all sons of God blood cries out .for a incorruptible body.

Genesis 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

Matthew 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

A to Z

Tomb above ground is used .Not grave. Grave no chance of breathings.

Christ suffered pouring out His Spirt life on dying flesh, He cannot die.

Belly of the Whale. Must be the same in that parallel parable. The three day and night propmised demonstration Suffering unto death .Heart of earth. By his wounds we are healed .

Belly whale trouble with wife. . . the heart of the matter .lol

Earth and heart used that way throughout 21 times .

Where your heart is there we can find his treasure .

Yoked with Him our sufferings can be made lighter with a living hope beyond the grave

Luke 12:34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Do not defend Paganism in Christianity.

 

[CherubRam]

Hades is a Greek word=the Hebrew word Sheol.

That is not correct. We have been lied to. Hades is a Greek god myth. Sheol is a grave.

 

[Viking123]

That is not correct. We have been lied to. Hades is a Greek god myth. Sheol is a grave.

The Greek language which included Hades was prior to their creation of the false god Hades.

 

[Mr GLee]

Do not defend Paganism in Christianity.

Paganism . . .Out of sight out of mind fools ?

Hebrews 9:2 7And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Hell simply suffering in there earthen bodes of death (powerless)not Limbo or purgatory the wondering, wondering salvation .

The second death letter of the law death and its daily sufferings of hell. The death of death

The idea of bones dug up and judged again like Pope Formosus Cadaver trial And dead mans bones the passed around to be eulogized That defines Paganism .

The context of the appointment to die once must be incorporated .Once he did bear their sin not twice. Double jeopardy.

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.