The Hell of the Bible Explained!

[CherubRam]

The word Hell comes from the Pagan religions, and was added to the bible in place of other words.

 

[Mr GLee]

Hell is suffering . Nothing more and nothing less .

Yoked with Christ he shares the pain of living in a body of death (dead) All die without receiving the new incorruptible.

 

[CherubRam]

Hell is suffering . Nothing more and nothing less .

Yoked with Christ he shares the pain of living in a body of death (dead) All die without receiving the new incorruptible.

The condemned still are cut off from the living in death for all eternity.

Hell is more than a mistranslation, it's a premeditated deliberate assault on scripture to introduce the Teutonic pagan word.

Tar-ta-rus (tartarus) [[ Gr Tartaros ]] Gr. Myth. 1. An infernal abyss below Hades, where Zeus hurls the rebel Titans, later a place of punishment for the demons and devils. (mentioned only once in the Bible)

Ha-des (hadez) [[Gr Haides ]] 1 Gr. Myth. a. The home of the dead, beneath the earth. b The god of the underworld. 2. Bible: The state or resting place of the dead: name used in some modern translations of the New Testament

She-ol (sheol) [[Heb shaal , to dig]] A place in the depths of the earth conceived of as the dwelling of the dead. Note: In the KJV about half of scriptures are translated as hell, the other half as grave.

Gehenna: Mentioned twelve or thirteen times in the bible. Gehenna: Referring to the Valley of Hinnom, or Gehenna which is the city dump outside the walls of Jerusalem; it then was a place of constant burning of refuge.

Topheth is believed to be a location in Jerusalem, in the Valley of Hinnom, where the Canaanites sacrificed children to the god Moloch by burning them alive.


Yahshua never once used the word "Hell." The word Hell was placed there by the translators of the bible. Yahshua used the word "Gehenna." Gehenna: Referring to the Valley of Hinnom, or Gehenna which is the city dump outside the walls of Jerusalem. According to Archaeologist, there is no evidence to support that Gehenna was a place for burning garbage. There was however lots of Potsherds found.

Jeremiah 19:2
and go out to the Valley of Ben Hinnom, near the entrance of the Potsherd Gate. There proclaim the words I tell you...

The Serpent's doctrine is eternal life in Hell.

 

[Mr GLee]

The condemned still are cut off from the living in death for all eternity.

Hell is more than a mistranslation, it's a premeditated deliberate assault on scripture to introduce the Teutonic pagan word.

Hell is defined by the sufferings of one crying out for strength . God does nor hear the prayer of the dead (necromancy)

Jonah 2King James Version2 Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly,And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

Matthew 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Two witnesses. . belly of whale and heart of earth. Two metaphors used in that parable to represent sufferings living in a body of death .Under the appointed to die once

Hell as a false doctrine. . the oral foundation of Limbo Purgatory the suffering never ends. In that way the Queen of heaven is attributed of continuing to comfort with no end in sight. to even comfort some of the Protestants.

Trouble with the wife . ."Belly of the Whale". Stop paying taxes "heart of the earth" LOL

Yoked with Christ our belly of hell can be lighter with a living hope beyond what the eyes see.

 

[David Lamb]

The word Hell comes from the Pagan religions, and was added to the bible in place of other words.

Are you talking about the English word "hell?" I am sure you know that the bible was written in Hebrew and Greek, and had to be translated into English. So the English word "hell" wasn't added to the bible; it was used to translate various Greek and Hebrew words in the original. Although the English word "hell" may have its origins in pagan religions, that doesn't mean that when we use that word today, we must be embracing or supporting pagan beliefs, just as when we say, "I will meet you on Wednesday," we don't mean that we believe in the Norse god Odin, after whom Wednesday takes its name.

 

[CherubRam]

Hell is defined by the sufferings of one crying out for strength . God does nor hear the prayer of the dead (necromancy)

Jonah 2King James Version2 Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly,And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

Matthew 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Two witnesses. . belly of whale and heart of earth. Two metaphors used in that parable to represent sufferings living in a body of death .Under the appointed to die once

Hell as a false doctrine. . the oral foundation of Limbo Purgatory the suffering never ends. In that way the Queen of heaven is attributed of continuing to comfort with no end in sight. to even comfort some of the Protestants.

Trouble with the wife . ."Belly of the Whale". Stop paying taxes "heart of the earth" LOL

Yoked with Christ our belly of hell can be lighter with a living hope beyond what the eyes see.

"Belly of Hell" are not in the original text.

"Heart of the Earth" is a Catholic doctrine. Hell is not a teaching or belief in Judaism.

I am certain that Christ did not come here to introduce Pagan beliefs.

 

[CherubRam]

Catholic Version of The Apostles' Creed​

...suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried;
He descended into hell;
on the third day He rose again from the dead...


The other scriptures say he would be in the grave or tomb for three days. No mention in other scriptures of descending into Hell.

 

[Viking123]

Some deny the existence of hell, but the Bible clearly teaches it, in both the Old Testament and the New Testament.

MANY MISUNDERSTAND the subject, and some still hold to the heathen doctrine of eternal torture, which was attached to Christianity early in the Dark Ages, and so they believe in hell as viewed by the heathen instead of in the hell of the inspired Word of God.

• It's important that we examine carefully and learn thoroughly the Bible teachings on hell. The only Old Testament word translated hell is sheol, to which the New Testament word Hades corresponds. In the King James Version the Old Testament word, sheol and the New Testament word, hades are translated hell 41 times, grave 32 times and pit 3 times. Frequently when translated hell, the margin reads, “or, the grave,” or vice versa (Psa. 49: 15; Jonah 2: 1, 2).
• Contrary to the idea that hell is a place of fire and torture the Bible says, “there is no work, or device, or knowledge, or wisdom, in the grave [sheol], where you are going”; “in death there is no remembrance of you. In the grave [sheol] who shall give You thanks”; “the grave [sheol] cannot praise You: death cannot celebrate You” (Eccl. 9: 10; Psa. 6:5).
• Good people, as well as bad, go to sheol (hell) at death. Jesus “poured out His soul to death” (Matt. 26: 38), and descended to hell, but “His soul [His being] was not left in hell” (Acts 2: 27, 31).
• In Old English the word hell simply meant to hide or to cover. To "hell potatoes" meant to plant and cover them with earth. The word hell is properly used as signifying the secret or hidden condition of the dead. It had no reference whatever to a place of torture until that meaning was attached to it from heathen superstitions and theologians of the Dark Ages.
• When God told Adam of sin’s penalty, He did not say “In the day that you eat of it you shall live forever in torture,” but He told him the truth: “you shall surely die, i.e., cease to live” (Gen. 2: 17).
• Contradicting God, Satan told the first lie (John 8: 44), “You will not surely die” (Gen. 3: 4), by which he has since deceived many into believing that the dead are not really dead, but that at death they live on, and without waiting for the resurrection day (John 5: 28), go directly into heaven or into eternal torment.
• The Bible states plainly that “the soul who sins shall die” (Ezek. 18: 4); that “the wages of sin is death” [cessation of life, not life in torment]. On the other hand, the gift of God is eternal life (Rom. 6: 23) through Jesus Christ.
• Do you not see, that if the penalty against Adam and his race had been eternal torment, Jesus would have had to suffer an eternity of torture to redeem the human race? On the contrary, the “wages of sin is death,” “Christ died for our sins,” He tasted death for every man; and He “was raised from the dead” (1 Cor. 15: 3, 4). God through Christ ransoms all, not from eternal torture, but “from the power of the grave [sheol]” (Hos. 13: 14).
• Eventually “all that are in the grave shall hear His [Jesus’] voice, and shall come forth” (John 5: 28, 29 RSV). When sheol or hades delivers up all who sleep in Adamic death, sheol and hades will forever cease to exist. “O grave [sheol] I will be your destruction.”
• Sodom and Gomorrah are set forth by God “as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire” (Jude 7) then; the fire that is not burning any longer did destroy those cities, and brought upon them destruction. These will be awakened in the world’s judgment day (John 5: 28). However, they will not be reinstated to their former wicked condition.
• The word translated “tormented” in Rev. 20: 10 should have been rendered “tested” or “examined;” the devil, the beast and the false prophet will be examined forever by the righteous, and recognized as deserving destruction.
• The wicked “shall be punished with everlasting destruction” (2 Thessalonians 1: 9). Moreover, they “shall go away into everlasting punishment” [not everlasting life in torture, but death], (Matt. 25:46); “for sin, when it is finished, brings forth death” (James 1: 15); everlasting death is everlasting punishment. But the righteous only will have life eternal (John 3: 36).
• “God is love” and He desires us to “worship Him in spirit and in truth,” out of love for Him, not because of fear of punishment now and in the hereafter.

“Perfect love casts out fear” [dread]. (1 John 4: 8-12)​

Sheol and Hades both translate- the GRAVE.

 

[CherubRam]

Sheol and Hades both translate- the GRAVE.

Sheol only translates as "grave."

Ha-des (hadez) [[Greek Haides ]] 1 Greek Myth. Home of the dead beneath the earth. The god of the underworld. Hades (/ˈheɪdiːz/; Greek: ᾍδης, translit. Háidēs; Ἅιδης. Háidēs), in the ancient Greek religion and myth, Hades is the god of the dead and the king of the underworld, with which his name is synonymous with Hell.

 

[Viking123]

Sheol only translates as "grave."

Ha-des (hadez) [[Greek Haides ]] 1 Greek Myth. Home of the dead beneath the earth. The god of the underworld. Hades (/ˈheɪdiːz/; Greek: ᾍδης, translit. Háidēs; Ἅιδης. Háidēs), in the ancient Greek religion and myth, Hades is the god of the dead and the king of the underworld, with which his name is synonymous with Hell.

The dead are in the grave-Hades=Sheol=100% fact.

 

[CherubRam]

The dead are in the grave-Hades=Sheol=100% fact.

Hades is a Greek myth.

 

[Viking123]

Hades is a Greek myth.

Gods word mentions it over and over-- Matt 16:18--Luke 10:15--Acts 2:31--Rev 1:18
The Greek version is most likely bogus. Hades= the grave in Gods bible.

 

[CherubRam]

Gods word mentions it over and over-- Matt 16:18--Luke 10:15--Acts 2:31--Rev 1:18
The Greek version is most likely bogus. Hades= the grave in Gods bible.

Pagan Christians added it to scriptures. First used in the Greek Old Testament in place of the Hebrew word "sheol." (grave)

 

[CherubRam]

Hades is a Greek myth, and the grave is a fact of life.

 

[Viking123]

Pagan Christians added it to scriptures. First used in the Greek Old Testament in place of the Hebrew word "sheol." (grave)

Thus-Hades= the grave. Yes Hades is the Greek word for the Hebrew word Sheol.

 

[CherubRam]

Thus-Hades= the grave. Yes Hades is the Greek word for the Hebrew word Sheol.

Hades was the god of the underworld and the ruler of the dead. He was the son of the Titans Cronus and Rhea, and the brother of Zeus, Poseidon, Demeter, Hera, and Hestia. Hades was also known as Pluto or Pluton, which means "the wealthy one" or "the giver of wealth".

 

[Rella]

Okay.

Question.

Where does Rev 20:10 fit in this idea that hell is not biblical but Pagan?

And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Is it safe to believe they will not suffer eternal punishment then?

 

[CherubRam]

Okay.

Question.

Where does Rev 20:10 fit in this idea that hell is not biblical but Pagan?

And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Is it safe to believe they will not suffer eternal punishment then?

You are reading a parable. Touch stoned means rubbed out which mean "DEAD."

Revelation 20:10
And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be (Touchstone / tormented) day and night for ever and ever.

In regards to Rev 14:10 and 20:10
The words "day and night" in the bible are used figurative and literally. Figuratively "day and night" means "continually."

Both of these words in Revelation comes from the root “basanos,” which is defined by Strong’s as “a touchstone.” Webster defines the word “touchstone” as: “1. A stone by which metals are examined; a black, smooth, glossy stone… 2. Any test or criterion by which the qualities of a thing are tried; as money, the touchstone of common honesty.”

This might strike you as interesting considering that the definition of the Greek word that was translated as “torment,” not only has nothing to do with eternal conscious torment, but it is actually a process that tests purity. So we can see that to be tormented in these verses is compared to being rubbed out upon a touchstone.

Rubbed out.
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Definition of RUB OUT
to obliterate by or as if by rubbing; to destroy completely; specifically : kill, murder… See the full definition
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[Viking123]

Hades was the god of the underworld and the ruler of the dead. He was the son of the Titans Cronus and Rhea, and the brother of Zeus, Poseidon, Demeter, Hera, and Hestia. Hades was also known as Pluto or Pluton, which means "the wealthy one" or "the giver of wealth".

In Greek mythology,( something twisted by satan) It doesn't exist. The grave is real. The bible says Jesus went to Hades= the Grave for 3 days.

 

[Rella]

You are reading a parable. Touch stoned means rubbed out which mean "DEAD."

Revelation 20:10
And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be (Touchstone / tormented) day and night for ever and ever.

In regards to Rev 14:10 and 20:10
The words "day and night" in the bible are used figurative and literally. Figuratively "day and night" means "continually."

Both of these words in Revelation comes from the root “basanos,” which is defined by Strong’s as “a touchstone.” Webster defines the word “touchstone” as: “1. A stone by which metals are examined; a black, smooth, glossy stone… 2. Any test or criterion by which the qualities of a thing are tried; as money, the touchstone of common honesty.”

This might strike you as interesting considering that the definition of the Greek word that was translated as “torment,” not only has nothing to do with eternal conscious torment, but it is actually a process that tests purity. So we can see that to be tormented in these verses is compared to being rubbed out upon a touchstone.

Rubbed out.
www.merriam-webster.com
Definition of RUB OUT
to obliterate by or as if by rubbing; to destroy completely; specifically : kill, murder… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com

It does not say that. It says tormented day and night yada,yada.

I believe you are not talking about Rev 20:10 but more likely Rev 22:19 where if you add or take away from the book you can have your name removed... RUBBED OUT... FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE.

You want to use Websters definitions.

1
: extreme pain or anguish of body or mind : agony
She wrung her hands piteously together, looking like a soul in torment.—Lucy Maud Montgomery


2
: a source of vexation or pain
Love is a delight; but hate a torment.—Herman Melville

… the twin torments of his probable manic depression and chronic stomach pains.—Neal Karlen


3
: the infliction of torture (as by rack or wheel)

And it is NOT a parable, it is a metaphor at best.

What is it with you people who toss the p and m words around like jelly beans anytime you cannot fathom what you are reading.And then scrounge around for something that suits you.

Sheeesh. I just was exchanging with another, elsewhere who claimed that the Hebrew translation was mistranslated from Latin.

You have trouble with the Greek translations?

Lets look at the Apocrypha

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Lets look at Aramaic, from the Peshitta

ואכלקרצא מטעינהון אתרמי בימתא דנורא וכבריתא איכא דחיותא ונביא דגלא ונשתנקון איממא ולליא לעלם עלמין܂

και ο διαβολος ο πλανων αυτους εβληθη εις την λιμνην του πυρος και θειου οπου το θηριον και ο ψευδοπροφητης και βασανισθησονται ημερας και νυκτος εις τους αιωνας των αιωνων10

Etheridge translation:

20:10 And the accuser who seduced them was cast into the lake of fire and of sulphur, as was also the beast of prey and the false prophet; and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Murdock translation:

20:10 And the Accuser who seduced them, was cast into the lake of fire and sulphur, where also were the beast of prey and the false prophet: and they shall be tormented, day and night, for ever and ever.

Interlinear translation:

10And their Seducer, The Devil, was cast into The Lake of Fire and Brimstone where The Beast and The False Prophet are, and they shall be tormented day and night for the eternity of eternities.

The complete Jewish Bible

10 The Adversary who had deceived them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Ya want some more? Revelation 20:10 - Compare Bible Verse Translations

Compare Translations for Revelation 20:10​

You have to do your own translating for this
Read Revelation (RSVA)
SBL Greek New Testament
10 καὶ ὁ διάβολος ὁ πλανῶν αὐτοὺς ἐβλήθη εἰς τὴν λίμνην τοῦ πυρὸς καὶ θείου, ὅπου καὶ τὸ θηρίον καὶ ὁ ψευδοπροφήτης, καὶ βασανισθήσονται ἡμέρας καὶ νυκτὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων.

AND

The Latin Vulgate
10 et pseudoprophetes et cruciabuntur die ac nocte in saecula saeculorum

Different languages... saying the same thing.

NOW where is YOUR translation with your Touchstone in it.