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Annihilationism is taught in the bible

That means, no fire; for it would be quenched by the water.
The heavenly realm is pictured for us with both fire and water emerging from God's throne (the Daniel 7:10 verse as well as Revelation 22:1). Fire signifies God's utter holiness and purity, and the River of Life proceeding from the throne of God and the Lamb signifies that God is the source of all life-0sustaining benefits for His creation.
The everlasting burnings are clearly meted out to the hypocrites and sinners in Zion
God's consuming fire has a double effect. For the wicked, His eternal fire gets rid of those individuals and they are burned up like chaff. For the righteous, God brings them through that fire and refines them, as in Zechariah 13:9. I am not the only one who has understood this Isaiah 33:14 passage as the righteous dwelling in close fellowship in heaven with God's eternal fire, the source of all holiness.
 
He did not explain what the "blazing furnace" is, for which is an indication that it was added to scriptures.

Note: Orthodox Jews do not believe in a Hell. The word "Hell" was added to scriptures by the Catholics. Yahshua and his Disciples were Orthodox Jews.
Correction: The "Blazing Furnace" is parabolic for judgement, it is not literal.
 
Those who are cast into the lake of fire shall dwell with "everlasting burnings" according to Isaiah 33:14.

That denotes severe pain.
Lake of fire signifies the judgment of Christ. The appointment all men have "die once"no retrial double jeopardy

Then comes the second death. the death of death according to the letter of the law( Death) Thou shall not or you will in dying come to an end and never to rise to new born again life spirit life

The letter of the law death that causes the daily pangs of hell will not rise up and corrupt again the whole world.

In the new heavens and earth the old things of the letter of law will not remembered or ever come to mind . Yoked with Christ he make the pangs of hell lighter strengthening us with our daily bread .

No breath of life after one takes thier last breath of oxygen. no limbo in between
 
He did not explain what the "blazing furnace" is, for which is an indication that it was added to scriptures.

Note: Orthodox Jews do not believe in a Hell. The word "Hell" was added to scriptures by the Catholics. Yahshua and his Disciples were Orthodox Jews.
Orthodox Jews do not believe in Christ. The disciples believed in Christ.

Christ presented the punishment of eternal fire (Mt 18:8). Call it whatever name you want, hell or flabberstat, it doesn't change the nature of the punishment.
 
Orthodox Jews do not believe in Christ. The disciples believed in Christ.

Christ presented the punishment of eternal fire (Mt 18:8). Call it whatever name you want, hell or flabberstat, it doesn't change the nature of the punishment.
The Disciples were Orthodox Jews, Yahshua was a Orthodox Jew. The first Christians were Orthodox Jews.

The Hebrew word Sheol for grave does not translate into the Pagan belief of Hell.

The Hebrew word for pit does not translate into the Pagan belief of Hell.

The Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna) is a place for broken potsherds, and used as a parable to mean destruction. And it does not translate into the Pagan belief of Hell.

Gehenna

Matthew 5:22: "....whoever shall say, 'You fool', shall be guilty enough to go into Gehenna."
Matthew 5:29: "....it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into Gehenna."
Matthew 5:30: "....better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to go into Gehenna."
Matthew 10:28: "....rather fear Him who is able to destroy the soul, both spirit and body in Gehenna."
Matthew 18:9: "It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than with two eyes to be thrown into the Gehenna...."
Matthew 23:15: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you... make one proselyte...twice as much a child of Gehenna as yourselves."
Matthew 23:33, to the Pharisees: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how shall you escape the sentence of Gehenna?"
Mark 9:43: "It is better for you to enter life crippled, than having your two hands, to go into Gehenna into the unquenchable fire."
Mark 9:45: "It is better for you to enter life lame, than having your two feet, to be cast into Gehenna."
Mark 9:47: "It is better for you to enter the Kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes, to be cast into Gehenna."
Luke 12:5: "....fear the One who, after He has killed has authority to cast into Gehenna; yes, I tell you, fear Him."
James 3:6: "And the tongue is a fire,...and sets on fire the course of our life, and is set on fire by Gehenna."


Hades
Hades is the name of a Pagan god of the underworld.
The word grave does not translate into the Pagan god name Hades.


Annihilationism is taught in the bible
 
The Disciples were Orthodox Jews, Yahshua was a Orthodox Jew. The first Christians were Orthodox Jews.
The Hebrew word Sheol for grave does not translate into the Pagan belief of Hell.
The Hebrew word for pit does not translate into the Pagan belief of Hell.
The Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna) is a place for broken potsherds, and used as a parable to mean destruction. And it does not translate into the Pagan belief of Hell.
Gehenna
Matthew 5:22: "....whoever shall say, 'You fool', shall be guilty enough to go into Gehenna."
Matthew 5:29: "....it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into Gehenna."
Matthew 5:30: "....better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to go into Gehenna."
Matthew 10:28: "....rather fear Him who is able to destroy the soul, both spirit and body in Gehenna."
Matthew 18:9: "It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than with two eyes to be thrown into the Gehenna...."
Matthew 23:15: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you... make one proselyte...twice as much a child of Gehenna as yourselves."
Matthew 23:33, to the Pharisees: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how shall you escape the sentence of Gehenna?"
Mark 9:43: "It is better for you to enter life crippled, than having your two hands, to go into Gehenna into the unquenchable fire."
Mark 9:45: "It is better for you to enter life lame, than having your two feet, to be cast into Gehenna."
Mark 9:47: "It is better for you to enter the Kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes, to be cast into Gehenna."
Luke 12:5: "....fear the One who, after He has killed has authority to cast into Gehenna; yes, I tell you, fear Him."
James 3:6: "And the tongue is a fire,...and sets on fire the course of our life, and is set on fire by Gehenna."
Hades
Hades is the name of a Pagan god of the underworld.
The word grave does not translate into the Pagan god name Hades.
Thanks. . .but none of this contradicts Jesus' presentation of punishment by eternal fire (Mt 18:8)
 
Thanks. . .but none of this contradicts Jesus' presentation of punishment by eternal fire (Mt 18:8)
Yes never to rise to new spirit life.
 
Thanks. . .but none of this contradicts Jesus' presentation of punishment by eternal fire (Mt 18:8)
Yahshua came speaking in parables. The "Eternal Fire" is parabolic for "Eternal Punishment," for which is "Eternal Death."

Deuteronomy 30:19
This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death,...

Again; The Eternal Punishment is Death of the soul, both body and spirit. Hell is not a concept of Judaism or original Christianity. Hell is solely a Pagan belief and has nothing to do with true Judaism or Christianity. Hell was introduced into the bible by the Catholics. Having Christ equal to Yahwah was also introduced by the Catholics. Catholic doctrine has that the Pope is Christ incarnate.

2 Thessalonians 2:4
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Matthew 18:8.

8 If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.

"The Pope is of so great dignity, and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God and the vicar of God." (Ferraris Ecclesiastical dictionary)

"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope." (On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17)

"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." (Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, "Cities Petrus Bertanous)

"To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical." (the Gloss "Extravagantes" o.f Pope John XXII *** inter, Tit. XIV, Cap. IV. Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium, Paris, 1685)

"Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions." (Ferraris, «Prompta Bibliotheca», 1763, Volume VI, 'Papa II', p.26)
 
Again; The Eternal Punishment is Death of the soul, both body and spirit. Hell is not a concept of Judaism or original Christianity. Hell is solely a Pagan belief and has nothing to do with true Judaism or Christianity. Hell was introduced into the bible by the Catholics. Having Christ equal to Yahwah was also introduced by the Catholics. Catholic doctrine has that the Pope is Christ incarnate.
I would think hell is the living out of the daily suffering we experience in the dying bodies of death .Yoked with Christ we receive the daily bread to strengthen us to do His good will, making our sufferings lighter .

Hell is literal dying sufferings unto death . .not dead never to rise to new spirit life. ,

Both Jonah and Jesus are used to define hell

Jonah 2 King James Version Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly, And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice

Jonah was suffering unto death a living sufferings ,God does not take dead sacrifices. God does not speak to the dead. Dead people cannot pray.

His sufferings unlike that of Jesus the Son of man. Jonah was sufferings unto death because of his distain for the Ninevites when it comes to the spiritual things of God they did not know their right from there left He knew that when he preached the gospel been thrown overboard vomited out he kicked against the pricks ( the letter of the law) death and wanted to die like it was a suicide mission. LOL Kamazeee Jonah

Jonah 4 King James Version4 But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. And he prayed unto the Lord, and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.Therefore now, O Lord, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live.Then said the Lord, Doest thou well to be angry?

Jesus did the will of the Father with delight not resisting the power of the gospel as did Jonah who wanted to die

Jesus suffered unto death, the father hearing him strengthened him to continue to suffer unto death to fulfil the prophecies (Genesis 3:15 and isaiah 53). The witness of two, the unseen father working in and with the Son of man, the labor of love of two. The father striking the Son bruised his heel crushing the head of the serpent. the labor of two. . three or more is a crowd .

Its not the most popular idea but it does ring true comparing the spiritual understand to the spiritual or call faith to faith the unseen things of God not of us dying mankind . I believe the demonstration is demonstrated in three parts all having a different gospel purpose

Three days nights the promised demonstration was given in three parts or three separate in order to make one (three denotes the end of a matter) The garden demonstration the fulfillment of genesis 3:15 with Isaiah 53 . the witness two . secondly the cross the bloody demonstration to the nations of world. . . and the third the tomb the demonstration of faith the power of God the unseen things of God.

Mathew 23:36-46 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done. And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy. And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me.

Then they moved on to the second demonstration the bloody a ceremonial sign to the unbelieving world. The believers have prophecy spoken of the witness of two in the garden .

The bloody demonstrate to some appears as if we could acredit the work of two to the Satan enticed crowd as if dying mankind bruised the heel.

The father putting to sleep the disciples three times to seal the prophecy the witness of two the one witness God has spoken
(Genesis 3:5 working with Isaiah 53

Then the final demonstration of three. The tomb the demonstration of faith the unseen things of God .

I agree with the idea of Catholicism developing it to support thier limbo doctrine. . sufferings after one takes thier last breath of oxygen for all but what they call the Queen mother. It is taught what they call queen of heaven alone received the fullness of grace the full price of salvation .
The rest of the world a unknown remnant and they must continue to suffer wonder suffer wonder with no end in sight The doctrine of men .which does despite to the grace of God the full price of salvation. Not a unknown remnant
 
What part of the world do you come from and what is your native language?
This universe this world? LOL

Some think our flesh will rise as in reincarnation (Catholicism) as in Queen Mary changes not.
 
This universe this world? LOL

Some think our flesh will rise as in reincarnation (Catholicism) as in Queen Mary changes not.
I see that you are incapable of answering a very basic and simple question. I will block you if you cannot answer what your native language is.
 
If you say so.
Parables teach us how to walk by faith (understand God) the unseen things of God. It's what he teaches. He says so
 
I see that you are incapable of answering a very basic and simple question. I will block you if you cannot answer what your native language is.
Its English did you have a question ?

Annihilationism true or false?
 
The heavenly realm is pictured for us with both fire and water emerging from God's throne (the Daniel 7:10 verse as well as Revelation 22:1). Fire signifies God's utter holiness and purity, and the River of Life proceeding from the throne of God and the Lamb signifies that God is the source of all life-0sustaining benefits for His creation.

God's consuming fire has a double effect. For the wicked, His eternal fire gets rid of those individuals and they are burned up like chaff. For the righteous, God brings them through that fire and refines them, as in Zechariah 13:9. I am not the only one who has understood this Isaiah 33:14 passage as the righteous dwelling in close fellowship in heaven with God's eternal fire, the source of all holiness.
Only the wicked are consumed in the second death as scripture clearly says
 
And you know this, how?


Matthew 13:34
Jesus spoke all these things to the crowd in parables; he did not say anything to them without using a parable.

This is a short list of the word FIRE being used to mean JUDGEMENT.


Psalm 78:21
When the LORD heard them, he was furious; his fire broke out against Jacob, and his wrath rose against Israel,

Psalm 79:5
How long, LORD? Will you be angry forever? How long will your jealousy burn like fire?

Psalm 89:46
How long, LORD? Will you hide yourself forever? How long will your wrath burn like fire?

Psalm 104:4
He makes [winds / spirits] his messengers, flames of fire his servants.

Isaiah 4:4
The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.

Isaiah 66:15
See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Isaiah 66:16
For with fire and with his sword the LORD will execute judgment on all people, and many will be those slain by the LORD.

Deuteronomy 32:22. For a fire has been kindled by my wrath,
one that burns to the realm of sheol below.

Amos 7:4
This is what the Sovereign LORD showed me: The Sovereign LORD was calling for judgment by fire; it dried up the great deep and devoured the land.

Hebrews 10:27
but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.

2 Peter 3:7
By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.



The word "fire and lightning" is often used as a parable to mean judgment. In one place the word "coal" means judgment. And where there is smoke there is fire, so the word "smoke" can also be used as a parable to mean judgment.
 
I would think hell is the living out of the daily suffering we experience in the dying bodies of death .Yoked with Christ we receive the daily bread to strengthen us to do His good will, making our sufferings lighter .

Hell is literal dying sufferings unto death . .not dead never to rise to new spirit life. ,

Both Jonah and Jesus are used to define hell

Jonah 2 King James Version Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly, And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice

Jonah was suffering unto death a living sufferings ,God does not take dead sacrifices. God does not speak to the dead. Dead people cannot pray.

His sufferings unlike that of Jesus the Son of man. Jonah was sufferings unto death because of his distain for the Ninevites when it comes to the spiritual things of God they did not know their right from there left He knew that when he preached the gospel been thrown overboard vomited out he kicked against the pricks ( the letter of the law) death and wanted to die like it was a suicide mission. LOL Kamazeee Jonah

Jonah 4 King James Version4 But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. And he prayed unto the Lord, and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.Therefore now, O Lord, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live.Then said the Lord, Doest thou well to be angry?

Jesus did the will of the Father with delight not resisting the power of the gospel as did Jonah who wanted to die

Jesus suffered unto death, the father hearing him strengthened him to continue to suffer unto death to fulfil the prophecies (Genesis 3:15 and isaiah 53). The witness of two, the unseen father working in and with the Son of man, the labor of love of two. The father striking the Son bruised his heel crushing the head of the serpent. the labor of two. . three or more is a crowd .

Its not the most popular idea but it does ring true comparing the spiritual understand to the spiritual or call faith to faith the unseen things of God not of us dying mankind . I believe the demonstration is demonstrated in three parts all having a different gospel purpose

Three days nights the promised demonstration was given in three parts or three separate in order to make one (three denotes the end of a matter) The garden demonstration the fulfillment of genesis 3:15 with Isaiah 53 . the witness two . secondly the cross the bloody demonstration to the nations of world. . . and the third the tomb the demonstration of faith the power of God the unseen things of God.

Mathew 23:36-46 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done. And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy. And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me.

Then they moved on to the second demonstration the bloody a ceremonial sign to the unbelieving world. The believers have prophecy spoken of the witness of two in the garden .

The bloody demonstrate to some appears as if we could acredit the work of two to the Satan enticed crowd as if dying mankind bruised the heel.

The father putting to sleep the disciples three times to seal the prophecy the witness of two the one witness God has spoken
(Genesis 3:5 working with Isaiah 53

Then the final demonstration of three. The tomb the demonstration of faith the unseen things of God .

I agree with the idea of Catholicism developing it to support thier limbo doctrine. . sufferings after one takes thier last breath of oxygen for all but what they call the Queen mother. It is taught what they call queen of heaven alone received the fullness of grace the full price of salvation .
The rest of the world a unknown remnant and they must continue to suffer wonder suffer wonder with no end in sight The doctrine of men .which does despite to the grace of God the full price of salvation. Not a unknown remnant

The word "Hell" is not in the original text of scriptures.

 
Matthew 13:34
Jesus spoke all these things to the crowd in parables; he did not say anything to them without using a parable.
This is a short list of the word FIRE being used to mean JUDGEMENT.

Psalm 78:21
When the LORD heard them, he was furious; his fire broke out against Jacob, and his wrath rose against Israel,
Psalm 79:5
How long, LORD? Will you be angry forever? How long will your jealousy burn like fire?
Psalm 89:46
How long, LORD? Will you hide yourself forever? How long will your wrath burn like fire?
Psalm 104:4
He makes [winds / spirits] his messengers, flames of fire his servants.
Isaiah 4:4
The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.
Isaiah 66:15
See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Isaiah 66:16
For with fire and with his sword the LORD will execute judgment on all people, and many will be those slain by the LORD.
Deuteronomy 32:22. For a fire has been kindled by my wrath,
one that burns to the realm of sheol below.
Amos 7:4
This is what the Sovereign LORD showed me: The Sovereign LORD was calling for judgment by fire; it dried up the great deep and devoured the land.
Hebrews 10:27
but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
2 Peter 3:7
By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
The word "fire and lightning" is often used as a parable to mean judgment. In one place the word "coal" means judgment. And where there is smoke there is fire, so the word "smoke" can also be used as a parable to mean judgment.
That "fire" means judgment does not necessarily mean the judgment is not fire, but means exactly the opposite; i.e, the judgment is fire.
Why the resistance to the text?
 
The word "Hell" is not in the original text of scriptures.


Hi thanks. .

What about the usage like in Jonah?

Jonah 2:1-2King James Version Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly,And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

The reason of his sufferings not dead never to rise Living sacrifice, not dead.

Rather than "belly of hell" he uses "heart of the earth" to represent the suffering of the Son of man, Jesus. . . . strengthened by His Father,the same strength Jonah received enabling both to finish the work Christ began in them. All glory to the unseen Holy Father
 
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