"...Enables a man to save himself?" Now, this is a strawman. This was never mentioned in the post; you inserted it. You are the only one projecting this claim on the post. The poster never did.
Please point out where and how.
I disagree. Prove it.
Of course, the poster never did. I'm telling you what it comes down to. That's all
Romans 7:14 14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. Who is his slave master? The flesh? Proverbs 5:22-23 "His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the cords of his sins. He shall die without instruction; and in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray."
Actually, I think if you sincerely study these things you will find Arminianism isn't very far from Catholicism, its also a quick road back. Where Calvinism differs from both, it is biblically based.
Man can do nothing to save himself, that is why God must do it.
Enabling grace? What's that, the type of grace that enables a man to save himself?
Sorry friend but you cannot prove any of this with scripture. Sounds like wishful thinking.
So this is god's way of working with man, he just makes it so the flesh, for a moment cannot affect the person, so the person can act freely to save himself? And this is taught where?
To make a choice? Man must make that choice to save himself?
So far you have not explained saved by grace biblically.
Wow, you have no idea what the meaning of grace is.
And what are you trying to prove by pulling this verse out of context?
Wow, thats a strange gospel.
It's obviously simple to teach a false gospel.
Just as I tell you what it comes down to, Reformed theology and Aminianism have their truths, but not all of them, and not exclusively.Of course, the poster never did. I'm telling you what it comes down to. That's all
OK I will answer the questions next time.
Very well said
Amen. When God commands, He gives the power with that command to obey.
Great post
Then why are you teaching such?
Really? Where does God come on? You are teaching two different ways of salvation, well actually one and a half.
Ummm, who's work did Jesus say it was? This is the work of who?
But dead people don't take medicine. Nor can they agree to take it, they are dead. Are the dead suppose to be able to do these things according to you?
Can you see the problem here? Man must be alive before he can take any medicine. Know what happens if you pour medicine down a dead mans throat? Nothing.
No, you taught dead men can take medicine. Where I come from dead men don't do anything. So, you are teaching a false gospel.
No, not biblical.
Huh? In context, could you explain how this is enabling and what is enabled?
Paul was saved by grace. grace didn't enable him to save himself.
You have said all sorts of stuff but proved nothing.
As have you.
Were you forced to be created?
I didn't say that. Though I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove it false.
Well, I gave to the chance. Tomorrow I will give you the opportunity as we can discuss these points. With scripture of course.
Of course, and let's agree not to use ad hominem references.
@Mercy_Shown
Of course.
Did I not want to be created? How can one force nothing? Once I am something, I still can't be forced until or unless I have a will.
Of course you didn't, that is why I said, "You seem." Why would I prove it false? It is one of my main arguments. A person can be enlightened and partake of the Holy Spirit before becoming a Christian.
But Efficacious grace is. I can't find it in the bible.
No. You didn't want anything. Meanwhile, you are a new creature, in Christ. Not the same person you were. Literally, not the same.
Once you had a will at enmity with God; why call it 'force' when he changes your will and gives you a new heart? You still choose—nobody is saying different. But you choose as a result of your will —the old will, or the new will.
"You seem" to be talking out both sides of your mouth here. Why would you say that I seem to believe something and then turn around and claim I didn't?
