Who are Gods 'Chosen'?

[Mr GLee]

20% of humanity from the last 2,000 years is a "great crowd."

Great cloud as the witness of God. 144,000 the chaste virgin bride the church a golden measure .The measure of faith "the secret hidden things of God" A number that no man could number.

God does not number his children of faith. His trust is in His Spirit. not dying mankind.

Revelation 21;14-17King James Version And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, (literal) that is, of the angel.

144,000 = the chaste virgin bride the church

 

[Eleanor]

Great cloud as the witness of God. 144,000 the chaste virgin bride the church a golden measure .The measure of faith "the secret hidden things of God" A number that no man could number.
God does not number his children of faith. His trust is in His Spirit. not dying mankind.
Revelation 21;14-17King James Version And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, (literal) that is, of the angel.
144,000 = the chaste virgin bride the church

See post #95.

 

[Mr GLee]

See post #95.

Faith = POWERFUL INVISIBLE WORK OF GOD

Not of our faith powerless selves (no boasting) . But of His powerful labor of love

See John 1 In the beginning was the living Word, and the Word faithfully said "let there be and the creation was good .

Its called. . the let there be . . . .law of faith.

Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works?(what the eyes see.) the law of faith believing God not seen ,invisible works .

 

[Eleanor]

Faith = POWERFUL INVISIBLE WORK OF GOD

Not of our faith powerless selves (no boasting) . But of His powerful labor of love

See John 1 In the beginning was the living Word, and the Word faithfully said "let there be and the creation was good .

Its called. . the let there be . . . .law of faith.

Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works?(what the eyes see.) the law of faith believing God not seen ,invisible works .

See post #102.

 

[RR144]

20% of humanity from the last 2,000 years is a "great crowd."

That's not what I asked.

 

[Eleanor]

That's not what I asked.

Sorry, I misunderstood your question to be about the greatness of the crowd.

 

[Keiw1]

So how do you connect these verses with the great crowd of Rev. 7?

The little flock are numbered=144,000--The great crowd no man can number.

 

[RR144]

The little flock are numbered=144,000--The great crowd no man can number.

That doesn't answer my original question Keiw.

 

[Mr GLee]

The little flock are numbered=144,000--The great crowd no man can number.

Yes, the bride of Christ the church.

 

[Mr GLee]

Sorry, I misunderstood your question to be about the greatness of the crowd.

The greatness is the multitude of people all . When he spoke parables some where given the spirit gospel understanding others it remained unsolved mystery of faith

 

[Keiw1]

Yes, the bride of Christ the church.

The bride of Christ= the little flock=144,000 bought from the earth( Rev 14:3)=will sit on thrones as kings and priests( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6) --the great crowd remains on earth-Prov 2:21-22

 

[grace2]

The bride of Christ= the little flock=144,000 bought from the earth( Rev 14:3)=will sit on thrones as kings and priests( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6) --the great crowd remains on earth-Prov 2:21-22

How do you come to the idea that those flocks are only JWs?

Do you know Mickael Servetus who got murtered for being non-trin was not JW?

According to you, he is not saved.

Your analyses won't add up, friend.

 

[Eleanor]

The greatness is the multitude of people all . When he spoke parables some where given the spirit gospel understanding others it remained unsolved mystery of faith

Saving faith is not about unsolved mysteries. .

 

[Mr GLee]

Saving faith is not about unsolved mysteries. .

Hi Thanks .I would offer,

Without the powerful faith of Christ's labor of love he spoke not hiding the mysteries of the gospel in parables. ( the signified understanding) from those who seek after a sign before they will exercise faith (believe in the invisible things of Christ) Mysteries made know through parables.

The burden is on those who say he did speak without the figurative tongue, the poetic language . . Christ sings to us.

Matthew 13:34All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: (no understanding of the mysteries of faith).

Romans 3:3For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

 

[Eleanor]

Hi Thanks .I would offer,

Without the powerful faith of Christ's labor of love he spoke not hiding the mysteries of the gospel in parables. ( the signified understanding) from those who seek after a sign before they will exercise faith (believe in the invisible things of Christ) Mysteries made know through parables.

The signs were given for faith.

 

[Mr GLee]

The signs were given for faith.

I would offer. .

Yes the signs of God's faith or labor of His love. "Let the be Sola scriptura" (belief in and of God) "It was God alone good"

Mark 16 :17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils(lying spirts) ; they shall speak with new tongues; (the gospel) They shall take up serpents; (spirit of lies) and if they drink any deadly thing, (false prophecy) it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, (a hope God will heal) and they shall recover.

Signs not seen (belief new tongue protection from false prophecy etc) follow the working of living word .

The key signs of the Invisible things of God (a desire to do the will of the father e.t.c ) shall follow not lead .Like those who made Jesus into a circus seal . .

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

Satan the king of lying sign to wonder after . His foundation .Surely you will not die look at my Ssssserpent beauty and live forever ,Cut off the legs no longer walk with God

God continues to send a strong delusion destroying the voice of the father of lies the god of this dying world. lying sign to wonder after as if they were prophecy .

Wokeism’s increasing in speed today, natural earthly logic of the father of lies to destroy the lives of people of both genders, of all races. One world government.

In that way history repeats itself, At the rise and fall of any nation it has to do with God's moral laws as it is written .

Today not much different than the first century reformation when the walls fell down .

Proverbs 25:28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

Believers have prophecy (sola scriptura) sealed with seven seals till the end of time under the Sun.

 

[Keiw1]

How do you come to the idea that those flocks are only JWs?

Do you know Mickael Servetus who got murtered for being non-trin was not JW?

According to you, he is not saved.

Your analyses won't add up, friend.

Many will be resurrected and given an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will. Thats how amazing Gods love is. Its why satan will be loosed for a little while, to test their faith.
I see you lack understanding of what we believe.
The only ones who will survive Armageddon are Jehovah's servants. 'When you see Babylon the great fall( religionsssssssss)--RUN to Jehovah do not hesitate, beg for forgiveness.

 

[Eleanor]

I would offer. .

Your point?

 

[Mr GLee]

Your point?

Different kinds of signs of God and of the devil. . lying wonders

 

[Mr GLee]

Many will be resurrected and given an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will. Thats how amazing Gods love is. Its why satan will be loosed for a little while, to test their faith.
I see you lack understanding of what we believe.
The only ones who will survive Armageddon are Jehovah's servants. 'When you see Babylon the great fall( religionsssssssss)--RUN to Jehovah do not hesitate, beg for forgiveness.

Fall of religions to include the religion of your sect

Christ in us will leave on the last day under the Sun like a thief in the night. No signs were given as to the last day. Its a evil generation that is looking for one to wonder after.

Believers have prophecy till the end .