Who are Gods 'Chosen'?

[makesends]

He does have one nature, one essence

Glad you agree. He has one nature. He is not "a nature".

Understand that our POV declarations concerning God are necessarily short of facts and understanding. You cannot prove that Jesus Christ is not God himself. And I have no intentions of proving to you that he is. That isn't a human job, and beyond human ability to do more than to present evidences both rational and scriptural.

One of the rational evidences is your lack of ability to prove that he is not God. In all this time you have been posting here, you have yet to do more than to give a mere POV. You propose to disprove the Trinity by showing that there are differences between the persons, while we agree there are differences. The differences, what differences there are, only demonstrate that there are three persons. They do not disprove the Trinity.

 

[Mr GLee]

The Natural Jew through covenant and Christ is the spiritual Jew. Same people.

And the Jew that does not become converted is called what "a outward Jew.>

Does he have any difference than that of a gentle . Does a different color of skin make any difference or DNA

What did they call a Christian the new name the father named the bride the church before the name change ? Israel?

Not all israel is born again Israel some remain as gentiles (Jacob the deceiver)



Romans 2:27-29King James Version27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of
God


Of God but not dying mankind . . which men today? Tall ones or shorter? Brown or blue eyes? Male or females?

They were chosen from before the foundation of the world to redemption.

What were they chosen to do ? Represent God as dying mankind as a Jewish King of kings and Lord of lords ?

The dying hands of mankind will one day glorify God and His Christ. Read the Psalms.
Read the bible. Just make sure it's a good translation.

I have read the Psalms nothing in there of dying mankind offer dead sacrifices.

The old things of here the letter of the law (the bible) will not be remembered or ever come to mind what we are as sons of God is not what we will be .

Are you a born again Son of God .Or are hoping that Heinz 57 variety DNA club will profit for something . anything, a bread crumb ?

 

[Mr GLee]

He does have one nature, one essence

Who has a nature (beginning) ? Peter our brother in the Lord?

God the Faithfull Creator has no nature (beginning)

Human dying sinners temporal, or eternal devine.?

No man can serve two divine teaching masters Just because your Bible chapter 80 (CCC) declares the idea of of sacred to dying mankind oral traditions of dying father I heard it through the grapevine and eternal God come form the same source Does no mean we can violate the law no man that can serve two living devine author as on Lord

80"Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, (Oral tradition) and move towards the same goal."Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".

Devine sinners????? Not from this planet ?

Which one did Peter chose. Himself or eternal God . what was the object lesson below. Trust Peter dying mankind not our Holy Father?

You would think you would have Matthew 16:2- 23 memorized by now..??/
You have the interpretation of the verse Matthew 16 :17 upside down as if Peter flesh and blood did not count when God revealed it was the unseen Holy Spirit who reveals his will to all of his born again children . not a legion of fathers that some call patron saints

Have you been born again of the incorruptible seed of the word? called the water of the word (sola scriptura)

Matthew 16: 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for (Peter's ) flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 16:22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Will you even try and memorize the teaching ? which is easy to not of dying Peters flesh and blood.

Or is Peter rebuking our Holy Father forbidding Jesus from doing his will . . . is no problem according to the infalible Pope? ?

 

[jeremiah1five]

And the Jew that does not become converted is called what "a outward Jew.>

What were they called during the days of Joshua?
Or during Daivd?
What were Jews called 100 years before the arrival of Jesus?
What were they called at Jesus' birth?
They were called "Jew" for short. Hebrew, specifically.
I think you have misunderstood what Saul was saying in that portion of his letter.

Does he have any difference than that of a gentle . Does a different color of skin make any difference or DNA

DNA does. The Abrahamic Covenant was with Abram the Hebrew and his seed. It's biological. Even to the twelve sons of Jacob.

What did they call a Christian the new name the father named the bride the church before the name change ? Israel?

Not all israel is born again Israel some remain as gentiles (Jacob the deceiver)

Wow. What nonsense. You know, Christians are supposed to sharpen each other but you have no sword. Not even a pocketknife. Nothing sharp.

Romans 2:27-29King James Version27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of
God


Of God but not dying mankind . . which men today? Tall ones or shorter? Brown or blue eyes? Male or females?


What were they chosen to do ? Represent God as dying mankind as a Jewish King of kings and Lord of lords ?


I have read the Psalms nothing in there of dying mankind offer dead sacrifices.

The old things of here the letter of the law (the bible) will not be remembered or ever come to mind what we are as sons of God is not what we will be .

Are you a born again Son of God .Or are hoping that Heinz 57 variety DNA club will profit for something . anything, a bread crumb ?

 

[Mr GLee]

What were they called during the days of Joshua?
Or during Daivd?
What were Jews called 100 years before the arrival of Jesus?
What were they called at Jesus' birth?
They were called "Jew" for short. Hebrew, specifically.
I think you have misunderstood what Saul was saying in that portion of his letter.

What were they called as born again believers like Abel the martyr when God set up the second born as a born again of the incorruptible seed doctrine .two types of genealogies.The genealogy beginning with Abel ending with the Son of man Jesus (Luke 3) the other genealogy beginning with Abraham used to signify our Holy Father of all the nations of the world is in Matthew 1 .

Using a Jew after Abraham the temporal dying in parables to help us understand the unseen eternal things of God working in the affairs' of dying mankind. . Demonstrating his love to the whole world

What they were called is not the as important. The Father renamed her,

The importance is the new name a more befitting name to name the bride of all the nations of the whole world A denomyn. People known by location

Literally with no other meaning added ."Resident of the heavenly city of Christ" prepared for his one bride of all the nations .Named after her founder and bloody husband Christ .

 

[jeremiah1five]

What were they called as born again believers like Abel the martyr when God set up the second born as a born again of the incorruptible seed doctrine .two types of genealogies.The genealogy beginning with Abel ending with the Son of man Jesus (Luke 3) the other genealogy beginning with Abraham used to signify our Holy Father of all the nations of the world is in Matthew 1 .

Using a Jew after Abraham the temporal dying in parables to help us understand the unseen eternal things of God working in the affairs' of dying mankind. . Demonstrating his love to the whole world

What they were called is not the as important. The Father renamed her,

The importance is the new name a more befitting name to name the bride of all the nations of the whole world A denomyn. People known by location

Literally with no other meaning added ."Resident of the heavenly city of Christ" prepared for his one bride of all the nations .Named after her founder and bloody husband Christ .

If God has a Bride of "all nations" then that would make God a bigamist to have two brides>

No, Israel is the Bride of God and His Christ and He has only ONE Bride: Israel.

19 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever;
Yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment,
And in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
20 I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness:
And thou shalt know the LORD.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day,
I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens,
And they shall hear the earth;
22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil;
And they shall hear Jezreel.
23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth;
And I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy;
And I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people;
And they shall say, Thou art my God.
Hosea 2:19–23.

 

[Josheb]

Well, scripture shows us more but we see...

Isaiah 11:11
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

And shown again..
Romans 9:27
Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Zephaniah 3:13
The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Thanks.

Paul stated the remnant was "at the present time" when he was writing the book of Romans.

Romans 11:5
In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

In other words, the remnant of which he spoke was not a remnant some multiple thousands of years in the future. Are there two remnants? Some people say God always preserves a remnant, so if that is your position then I'd like to see the scripture stating God always provides a remnant. Otherwise, you have been presented a verse that actually, directly, explicitly states the remnant was a first century occurrence. The word "present" does not mean "future."

 

[donadams]

Glad you agree. He has one nature. He is not "a nature".

Understand that our POV declarations concerning God are necessarily short of facts and understanding. You cannot prove that Jesus Christ is not God himself. And I have no intentions of proving to you that he is. That isn't a human job, and beyond human ability to do more than to present evidences both rational and scriptural.

One of the rational evidences is your lack of ability to prove that he is not God. In all this time you have been posting here, you have yet to do more than to give a mere POV. You propose to disprove the Trinity by showing that there are differences between the persons, while we agree there are differences. The differences, what differences there are, only demonstrate that there are three persons. They do not disprove the Trinity.

I defend the nicene creed, and the trinity!

 

[makesends]

I defend the nicene creed, and the trinity!

My bad. I mistook you for someone else.

 

[donadams]

My bad. I mistook you for someone else.

It’s all good

 

[Hobie]

Glad you agree. He has one nature. He is not "a nature".

Understand that our POV declarations concerning God are necessarily short of facts and understanding. You cannot prove that Jesus Christ is not God himself. And I have no intentions of proving to you that he is. That isn't a human job, and beyond human ability to do more than to present evidences both rational and scriptural.

One of the rational evidences is your lack of ability to prove that he is not God. In all this time you have been posting here, you have yet to do more than to give a mere POV. You propose to disprove the Trinity by showing that there are differences between the persons, while we agree there are differences. The differences, what differences there are, only demonstrate that there are three persons. They do not disprove the Trinity.

Each one had a different task, and you can see this clearly from the beginning..

 

[Keiw1]

I defend the nicene creed, and the trinity!

No trinity was taught at the council of Nicea in 325 ce.

 

[donadams]

No trinity was taught at the council of Nicea in 325 ce.

You right I meant the divine nature of Christ but the Nicean creed has the trinity

 

[Keiw1]

You right I meant the divine nature of Christ but the Nicean creed has the trinity

There was no trinity taught at the council of Nicea in 325 ce--Catholicisms own encyclopedia says--The formulation one God in 3 persons was not established or assimilated into christian life until near the end of the 4th century( that was at the council of Constantinople in 381 ce) And it says--The apostolic Fathers knew 0 of God being a trinity.

 

[donadams]

There was no trinity taught at the council of Nicea in 325 ce--Catholicisms own encyclopedia says--The formulation one God in 3 persons was not established or assimilated into christian life until near the end of the 4th century( that was at the council of Constantinople in 381 ce) And it says--The apostolic Fathers knew 0 of God being a trinity.

Then it was added at that time
Whatever
Both apostolic councils have the authority of Christ

 

[Keiw1]

Then it was added at that time
Whatever
Both apostolic councils have the authority of Christ

God gave Jesus all authority-If he were God he would already of had all authority. No one can give God authority.

 

[donadams]

God gave Jesus all authority-If he were God he would already of had all authority. No one can give God authority.

se what I mean!

(((In his human nature)))

 

[Keiw1]

se what I mean!

(((In his human nature)))

It doesn't say in his human nature.

 

[Mr GLee]

It seems that everyone always tries to argue who are God's people, the 'chosen', the 'remnant', 'spiritual Israel' and declare that they are 'Gods chosen', or by rigidly following a religious leader or by strictly restricting their behavior they achieve the status of 'Gods chosen' and thus are 'saved', but what does God say.

All Israel is not born again Israel. Just as a Jew is not one outwardly but inward invisible born

Christ our husbands renamed her Christian more befitting name to name the bride of all the nations Literally meaning "Residents of the heavenly city of Crist" prepared for the bride name after the founder and husband Christ .

Another of the wiles of the father . Chosen to represent the gospel. Not chosen to salvation .

People get it confuses with a chosen race (none)

All Christians are chosen people.

 

[Mr GLee]

se what I mean!

(((In his human nature)))

From the unseen head our Holy Father. the one source

Not dying mankind, a wile of the devil. His desire to deceive all the nation of the world God is a Jewish man as King of kings

Jesus, dying mankind had no power of his own living in a earthen body of death he cried out for mercy Father, Father, Father.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.