The Gift of faith

[Carbon]

Question:

If the natural man, the unsaved slave to sin is capable of saving faith; then why would the regenerate saved man need a gift of faith?

 

[PeanutGallery]

Question:

If the natural man, the unsaved slave to sin is capable of saving faith; then why would the regenerate saved man need a gift of faith?

Unsaved slave can be saved by faith; there is no other way to be saved. The regenerate saved man was saved by faith.

The free gift of salvation is through faith.

 

[Carbon]

Unsaved slave can be saved by faith; there is no other way to be saved. The regenerate saved man was saved by faith.

The free gift of salvation is through faith.

So the unsaved slave is capable of himself to have faith. Yet the saved needs a gift of faith?

Okay

 

[PeanutGallery]

So the unsaved slave is capable of himself to have faith. Yet the saved needs a gift of faith?

Okay

Salvation is the gift received by faith. Faith as a gift to given to all; where one places their faith is the issue.

 

[Carbon]

Salvation is the gift received by faith. Faith as a gift to given to all; where one places their faith is the issue.

So faith is a work then?

 

[PeanutGallery]

So faith is a work then?

Faith is not a work.

Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

 

[ReverendRV]

Question:

If the natural man, the unsaved slave to sin is capable of saving faith; then why would the regenerate saved man need a gift of faith?

Or; why would the Saved man need to be Regenerated?

 

[Carbon]

Faith is not a work.

Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

I know faith is not a work. But the way you portray it, it's a work.

Respectively, you have it quite mixed up IMO. Here are your words

@PeanutGallery Faith as a gift to given to all; where one places their faith is the issue.

So, faith is like a wish, or is it something given to use when and how you want? Or, is it something we are born with, that which is natural to man, therefore we can use it when we want and in what we want

 

[Carbon]

Or; why would the Saved man need to be Regenerated?

 

[Carbon]

@PeanutGallery What do you make of Acts 16:14? Curious, do you see this as a gift of faith?

One who heard us was a woman named Lydia, from the city of Thyatira, a seller of purple goods, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to pay attention to what was said by Paul.

 

[David1701]

Question:

If the natural man, the unsaved slave to sin is capable of saving faith; then why would the regenerate saved man need a gift of faith?

He wouldn't.

 

[Carbon]

He wouldn't.

Amen brother! Nice to see you

 

[David1701]

Amen brother! Nice to see you

I'm likely to have some more free time now, so I'll probably be around more often.

 

[Carbon]

I'm likely to have some more free time now, so I'll probably be around more often.

Sounds awesome to me. I enjoy your knowledge of our Lord.

Blessings

 

[Carbon]

Salvation is the gift received by faith. Faith as a gift to given to all; where one places their faith is the issue.

So, is it man's choice where he places this faith? Is it an arbitrary act of the will?

 

[Carbon]

@PeanutGallery What do you make of Acts 16:14? Curious, do you see this as a gift of faith?

One who heard us was a woman named Lydia, from the city of Thyatira, a seller of purple goods, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to pay attention to what was said by Paul.

This tells me the Lord had to do something in order for her to believe. And since He had to do something (open her heart) it's obvious the presentation of the gospel does not of itself compel faith. Of course, this is not due to any deficiency in the gospel. If faith is to result from the preaching of the word, the hearer must possess subjective receptivity. the hearer must have a state of mind which is capable of faith. Approval to moral truth presupposes a favorable moral disposition toward truth.

So, it's impossible that the external call of the gospel by itself should produce faith in the heart of the natural man. The natural man cannot exercise saving faith since he cannot see the kingdom of God.

So, man must receive faith as a gift of God. This faith is communicated through regeneration, God opening the heart, creating in man the capacity for believing the gospel.

According to scripture, I see no other way.

 

[PeanutGallery]

So, is it man's choice where he places this faith? Is it an arbitrary act of the will?

God's word does tell man to choose. Arbitrary, no; rather, persuaded by God's witnesses.

 

[PeanutGallery]

@PeanutGallery What do you make of Acts 16:14? Curious, do you see this as a gift of faith?

One who heard us was a woman named Lydia, from the city of Thyatira, a seller of purple goods, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to pay attention to what was said by Paul.

Lydia was already a worshiper of God, God opened her heart to hear the gospel; she then placed her faith in Christ.

 

[ReverendRV]

Lydia was already a worshiper of God, God opened her heart to hear the gospel; she then placed her faith in Christ.

Thank you...

 

[Arial]

Lydia was already a worshiper of God, God opened her heart to hear the gospel; she then placed her faith in Christ.

You added "she then placed her faith in Christ" and you added it in order for it to mean what you presuppose is the case---to fit your own belief iow. It doesn't say that. It does not even imply it.