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The Blood of the Covenant

The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Galatians 3: 8 says nothing about what you claim that Israel had lost her "Special National Covenant with God"

The following passage refutes your erroneous interpretation of Galatians 3: 8.

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

The Abraham covenant God made with Abraham and extended to his seed who are identified today as the children and nation of Israel is an EVERLASTING COVENANT and one in which God will keep His promises to bless Abraham's Hebrew seed, again identified as the children of Israel.

Your interpretation fails.

Again.
 
Galatians 3: 8 says nothing about what you claim that Israel had lost her "Special National Covenant with God"

The following passage refutes your erroneous interpretation of Galatians 3: 8.

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

The Abraham covenant God made with Abraham and extended to his seed who are identified today as the children and nation of Israel is an EVERLASTING COVENANT and one in which God will keep His promises to bless Abraham's Hebrew seed, again identified as the children of Israel.

Your interpretation fails.

Again.
The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
 
The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
The blood of the covenant refers to the animal sacrifices under the Mosaic covenant. This is a covenant between God and the seed of Abraham, a people known as the children and house of Israel.

Jesus came to fulfill the Mosaic covenant through His blood as substitute for the animals sacrificed under the Law and finally and eternally sacrificing Himself to and for the children and House of Israel ONLY. God has no covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles. Thus, the New Covenant described in Jeremaih 31:31-34 is a continuation of the Mosaic covenant in which Jesus was sacrificed according to the Law and in place of the animal sacrifice which God used to atone for the sins of the children and House of Israel as per the Mosaic covenant.
The New Covenant is only the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by Jesus. The Mosaic covenant was nailed to His cross joining His sacrifice of Himself to and for the children and House of Israel just as the animal sacrifice was to and for the children and House of Israel under the Mosaic covenant.

There is no atonement to and for non-Hebrew Gentiles as there is no covenant between God and non-Hebrew Gentiles anywhere mentioned in Scripture of Law, Psalms, and Prophets.
The writings from Matthew to Revelation were written by Jewish Christians to and for the children and House of Israel living in Gentile lands and is discussion and discovery of the New Covenant era the children and House of Israel found themselves in post-Messiah and Holy Spirit of Promise arrival and their effect upon the previous two covenants (Abraham and Mosaic.)

Because of the two previous conquests and exiles of Israel and its people by the Assyrian and Babylonian empires, the sending of Jewish Christians "to the Gentiles" is a good news gospel message from God to and for the children of Israel living in Gentile lands and is a message that Messiah and Holy Spirit of Promise have arrived and God has keep His Promise(s) promised to their fathers (Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.)

All references of "Gentiles" in the writings of the New Testament from Matthew to Revelation are identified as Jew-Gentile mixed heritage and as long as these "Gentiles" who are the offspring of Jew-Gentile mixed heritage are Abraham's seed then the covenant promises are meant for them. There are no non-Hebrew covenants between God and non-Hebrew Gentiles. None. These mixed heritage offspring of Jew-Gentile did not live as Jews and under the Law but lived as Gentiles in Gentile lands and influenced by Gentile culture having lived so long in Gentile lands.
Just as Gentiles today who are "born-again and saved would have a Hebrew/Jewish parent somewhere in their ancestry and are recipients of God's Promises to His people, a people from Abraham's seed. The Samaritans are type and shadow of this ethnical fact. There were four conquests and scattering of Abraham's seed in human history (Assyrian, Babylonian, Roman, and Germanic) exile and scattering and the children and House of Israel and Judah were scattered by God to and among non-Hebrew Gentiles. Mixed heritage was the result. If you are born-again and saved it is because first, you are descendant of Abraham's seed and second, chosen by God with your name in the book of life of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world to and for God's chosen and covenanted people.
ONLY.
Live with it.
 
The blood of the covenant refers to the animal sacrifices under the Mosaic covenant. This is a covenant between God and the seed of Abraham, a people known as the children and house of Israel.

Jesus came to fulfill the Mosaic covenant through His blood as substitute for the animals sacrificed under the Law and finally and eternally sacrificing Himself to and for the children and House of Israel ONLY. God has no covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles. Thus, the New Covenant described in Jeremaih 31:31-34 is a continuation of the Mosaic covenant in which Jesus was sacrificed according to the Law and in place of the animal sacrifice which God used to atone for the sins of the children and House of Israel as per the Mosaic covenant.
The New Covenant is only the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by Jesus. The Mosaic covenant was nailed to His cross joining His sacrifice of Himself to and for the children and House of Israel just as the animal sacrifice was to and for the children and House of Israel under the Mosaic covenant.

There is no atonement to and for non-Hebrew Gentiles as there is no covenant between God and non-Hebrew Gentiles anywhere mentioned in Scripture of Law, Psalms, and Prophets.
The writings from Matthew to Revelation were written by Jewish Christians to and for the children and House of Israel living in Gentile lands and is discussion and discovery of the New Covenant era the children and House of Israel found themselves in post-Messiah and Holy Spirit of Promise arrival and their effect upon the previous two covenants (Abraham and Mosaic.)

Because of the two previous conquests and exiles of Israel and its people by the Assyrian and Babylonian empires, the sending of Jewish Christians "to the Gentiles" is a good news gospel message from God to and for the children of Israel living in Gentile lands and is a message that Messiah and Holy Spirit of Promise have arrived and God has keep His Promise(s) promised to their fathers (Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.)

All references of "Gentiles" in the writings of the New Testament from Matthew to Revelation are identified as Jew-Gentile mixed heritage and as long as these "Gentiles" who are the offspring of Jew-Gentile mixed heritage are Abraham's seed then the covenant promises are meant for them. There are no non-Hebrew covenants between God and non-Hebrew Gentiles. None. These mixed heritage offspring of Jew-Gentile did not live as Jews and under the Law but lived as Gentiles in Gentile lands and influenced by Gentile culture having lived so long in Gentile lands.
Just as Gentiles today who are "born-again and saved would have a Hebrew/Jewish parent somewhere in their ancestry and are recipients of God's Promises to His people, a people from Abraham's seed. The Samaritans are type and shadow of this ethnical fact. There were four conquests and scattering of Abraham's seed in human history (Assyrian, Babylonian, Roman, and Germanic) exile and scattering and the children and House of Israel and Judah were scattered by God to and among non-Hebrew Gentiles. Mixed heritage was the result. If you are born-again and saved it is because first, you are descendant of Abraham's seed and second, chosen by God with your name in the book of life of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world to and for God's chosen and covenanted people.
ONLY.
Live with it.
The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
 
The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
Repeating yourself won't make it true.
What you are espousing is Replacement Theology, a typical Gentile aberration that has been repeated after Gentiles witnessed the destruction of the Jewish Temple in 70 AD. Upon this event they saw their opening to steal Israel's inheritance and everything God gave to them in covenant and in prophecy. But I wonder why Gentiles didn't clamor and steal Israel's inheritance while the Temple still stood.
They didn't and they couldn't because Gentiles hated the Jews, and the feeling was mutual towards those unclean, uncircumcised Philistines.
Do you have an excuse why Gentiles would say after the Temple's destruction they were in Abraham's covenant and why they didn't make those claims before when the Temple was destroyed and was still standing?

Greed, envy, theft are the acts of Gentiles who saw an opening and stepped in to fill the void when they never had God's permission to do so. Oh, I'm not even sure what god they would have asked. Maybe the god of silver? Or gold? Or stone, or maybe the god of fertility? Which god did they seek guidance from because there is nowhere in Scripture, you know, the Hebrew Scripture that was for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness that was given to the children of Israel, the same Scripture Jesus said "cannot be broken" and that Israel was commanded to live by every word from that proceedeth from the mouth of God that made it to press.

So, tell me, why didn't Gentiles claim they were in the Abraham covenant (Gal. 3:29) when the Temple was still standing those four decades after Israel's Messiah ascended into heaven?

Hmmm?
 
Repeating yourself won't make it true.
What you are espousing is Replacement Theology, a typical Gentile aberration that has been repeated after Gentiles witnessed the destruction of the Jewish Temple in 70 AD. Upon this event they saw their opening to steal Israel's inheritance and everything God gave to them in covenant and in prophecy. But I wonder why Gentiles didn't clamor and steal Israel's inheritance while the Temple still stood.
They didn't and they couldn't because Gentiles hated the Jews, and the feeling was mutual towards those unclean, uncircumcised Philistines.
Do you have an excuse why Gentiles would say after the Temple's destruction they were in Abraham's covenant and why they didn't make those claims before when the Temple was destroyed and was still standing?

Greed, envy, theft are the acts of Gentiles who saw an opening and stepped in to fill the void when they never had God's permission to do so. Oh, I'm not even sure what god they would have asked. Maybe the god of silver? Or gold? Or stone, or maybe the god of fertility? Which god did they seek guidance from because there is nowhere in Scripture, you know, the Hebrew Scripture that was for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness that was given to the children of Israel, the same Scripture Jesus said "cannot be broken" and that Israel was commanded to live by every word from that proceedeth from the mouth of God that made it to press.

So, tell me, why didn't Gentiles claim they were in the Abraham covenant (Gal. 3:29) when the Temple was still standing those four decades after Israel's Messiah ascended into heaven?

Hmmm?
I'm repeating scripture, which is truth,

The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
 
I'm repeating scripture, which is truth,

The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
Abraham's spiritual seed is originally Abraham's natural seed who are the children of Israel.
Through the born-again experience natural Olive tree Israel became spiritual Olive tree Israel as three thousand Jews (Israel) were born again on the Day of the Feast of Harvest in 32 AD.

Get that Gentile log out of your eye so you can see without the Gentile bias against Israel.
You're part of the antisemitism enveloping the world today. I bet you support Hamas, don't you.
 
Abraham's spiritual seed is originally Abraham's natural seed who are the children of Israel.
Through the born-again experience natural Olive tree Israel became spiritual Olive tree Israel as three thousand Jews (Israel) were born again on the Day of the Feast of Harvest in 32 AD.

Get that Gentile log out of your eye so you can see without the Gentile bias against Israel.
You're part of the antisemitism enveloping the world today. I bet you support Hamas, don't you.
The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
 
The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
The State of Israel exists today by the very hand of God.
Maybe someone should tell Netanyahu that there are people who don't believe Israel exists today and that whoever is living in the Holy Land should move out because Zechariah prophesied that the Holy Land will be occupied by Hebrews/Jews when Christ returns and the twelve tribes living there today are not really a nation.
 
The State of Israel exists today by the very hand of God.
Maybe someone should tell Netanyahu that there are people who don't believe Israel exists today and that whoever is living in the Holy Land should move out because Zechariah prophesied that the Holy Land will be occupied by Hebrews/Jews when Christ returns and the twelve tribes living there today are not really a nation.
The state of israel today is just like any other gentile nation that exist today by the hand of God.

The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
 
The state of israel today is just like any other gentile nation that exist today by the hand of God.

The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
Israel is not Gentile.

They are a nation, and they are blessed with Abraham, their father.
Israel became a nation possessing Special National Covenant with God because the covenant with Abraham is everlasting and God will keep all His promises He made to Abraham, to the children of Israel, and to both Houses of Israel.

God is not a man that He should lie. He will perform all His covenant promises towards Israel.
Only Israel.
 
Israel is not Gentile.

They are a nation, and they are blessed with Abraham, their father.
Israel became a nation possessing Special National Covenant with God because the covenant with Abraham is everlasting and God will keep all His promises He made to Abraham, to the children of Israel, and to both Houses of Israel.

God is not a man that He should lie. He will perform all His covenant promises towards Israel.
Only Israel.
The state of israel today is just like any other gentile nation that exist today by the hand of God.

The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
 
Israel is not Gentile.

They are a nation, and they are blessed with Abraham, their father.
Israel became a nation possessing Special National Covenant with God because the covenant with Abraham is everlasting and God will keep all His promises He made to Abraham, to the children of Israel, and to both Houses of Israel.

God is not a man that He should lie. He will perform all His covenant promises towards Israel.
Only Israel.
Which Israel ? The born again Jacob (the deceiver) a pagan gentile .or the new born again name. Israel?

As a new creatures no longer wrestles against flesh and blood alone but now empowered with Emanuel one can perform the will of our Holy Father the unseen head.. Christ.

He re-named her as propmised in Isaiah 62 calling her Christian (residents of the unseen city of Christ) a more befitting name to name the bride of all nations

Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

Romans 9:5-7King James Version Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh(dying) Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham(one Christ) , are they all children: but, In Isaac (God laughs) shall thy (Christ) seed be called.
 
The state of israel today is just like any other gentile nation that exist today by the hand of God.

The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8
When was it taken away?

Abraham's spiritual seed remains Abraham's natural seed, and the inheritance went to Isaac, Jacob, and the children of Jacon/Israel, the twelve tribes in covenant with God, a people identified as the children of Israel.
A people Jesus came to die to save and redeem to God. I notice that Gentiles always use New Testament passages that are misinterpreted and violate Scripture of Law, Psalms, and Prophets. Any interpretation in the New Testament that breaks Scripture is to be rejected and your misinterpretation of Galatians 3: 8 is wrong.

You fail to acknowledge that God's covenant with Abraham is everlasting and has no end.

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

Your interpretation violates Jesus' Words and purpose as to His mission on earth and that is to save the seed of Abraham and non-Hebrew Gentiles are NOT the seed of Abraham.
You're following false, Constantinian Gentile theology that teaches Gentile replacement of Israel when that is impossible because the Abrahamic Covenant between God, Abraham, and Abraham's seed is everlasting and has no end. It is a covenant between God and Israel and Gentiles no matter your misinterpretation is not Israel.

Tell me, why weren't there any Gentile claims of being in the Abraham covenant before Jesus was born? That's because Israel still existed and Gentiles knew the God of Abraham didn't apply to them. Your replacement theology violates the Word of God.

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mt 15:23–24.

ONLY the House of Israel.
 
When was it taken away?

Abraham's spiritual seed remains Abraham's natural seed, and the inheritance went to Isaac, Jacob, and the children of Jacon/Israel, the twelve tribes in covenant with God, a people identified as the children of Israel.
A people Jesus came to die to save and redeem to God. I notice that Gentiles always use New Testament passages that are misinterpreted and violate Scripture of Law, Psalms, and Prophets. Any interpretation in the New Testament that breaks Scripture is to be rejected and your misinterpretation of Galatians 3: 8 is wrong.

You fail to acknowledge that God's covenant with Abraham is everlasting and has no end.

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

Your interpretation violates Jesus' Words and purpose as to His mission on earth and that is to save the seed of Abraham and non-Hebrew Gentiles are NOT the seed of Abraham.
You're following false, Constantinian Gentile theology that teaches Gentile replacement of Israel when that is impossible because the Abrahamic Covenant between God, Abraham, and Abraham's seed is everlasting and has no end. It is a covenant between God and Israel and Gentiles no matter your misinterpretation is not Israel.

Tell me, why weren't there any Gentile claims of being in the Abraham covenant before Jesus was born? That's because Israel still existed and Gentiles knew the God of Abraham didn't apply to them. Your replacement theology violates the Word of God.

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mt 15:23–24.

ONLY the House of Israel.
The state of israel today is just like any other gentile nation that exist today by the hand of God.

The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
 
The state of israel today is just like any other gentile nation that exist today by the hand of God.

The Special National Covenant distinction Israel had is gone, it was taken away, and its been established with Abrahams Spiritual Seed throughout the nations, Gentiles Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Peter connects this promise God preached to Abraham as the Covenant Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Also Gen 17:7 is the same as Gal 3:8

Its based upon Abraham being made a Father of many nations Gen 17:5

“Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Rom 4:17-18


17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
I already provided the scripture evidence that it was taken away you need to reread the thread
 
The blood of the Hebrew Mosaic Covenant includes animal sacrifices that atoned yearly for the sins of the children of Israel.
The blood of the Covenant is Jesus Christ fulfilling the requirements of the Mosaic Covenant by being the sacrifice provided by God to and for the Hebrew people to finally and totally and eternally atone for the sins of the children of Israel in covenant with God.
Jesus did not come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it and this He did on the night He was betrayed "He took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you." Lk 22:19–20.

The New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah 31:31-34 is the Mosaic Covenant between God and the children of Israel fulfilled by the Lamb of God sent in accordance with the Mosaic Covenant Law instructing and commanding sacrifices offered by God Himself in the New Covenant to atone forever for the sins of the children of Israel.

God has taken the seed of Abraham full circle from the Abraham covenant to the New Covenant and has bound Himself eternally and personally to the children of Israel through His Son, the Redeemer, the Prophet like unto Moses and the Son of God and the King of the Jews thus completing Israel's redemption by the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ the Savior of the Hebrew people.
 
The blood of the Hebrew Mosaic Covenant includes animal sacrifices that atoned yearly for the sins of the children of Israel.
The blood of the Covenant is Jesus Christ fulfilling the requirements of the Mosaic Covenant by being the sacrifice provided by God to and for the Hebrew people to finally and totally and eternally atone for the sins of the children of Israel in covenant with God.
Jesus did not come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it and this He did on the night He was betrayed "He took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you." Lk 22:19–20.

The New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah 31:31-34 is the Mosaic Covenant between God and the children of Israel fulfilled by the Lamb of God sent in accordance with the Mosaic Covenant Law instructing and commanding sacrifices offered by God Himself in the New Covenant to atone forever for the sins of the children of Israel.

God has taken the seed of Abraham full circle from the Abraham covenant to the New Covenant and has bound Himself eternally and personally to the children of Israel through His Son, the Redeemer, the Prophet like unto Moses and the Son of God and the King of the Jews thus completing Israel's redemption by the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ the Savior of the Hebrew people.
God is not a racist . . .Satan sssss is.

Not all Israel are born again Israel. Some remained as outward Jew according to the dying flesh of mankind after the name Jacob "the deceiver"

Literal blood without the Spirit of Christ or breath of spirit life must be poured out at the altar. . a living sacrifice. . . not dead lifeless flesh and blood so it can return to the lifeless spiritless field of clay . (Dust and water) Blood?

Both water and blood represent the unseen labor of Christ's eternal love as a work of his faithfulness . The "let there be" kind) again lifeless spiritless must be poured out to help give meaning to the parable "drink blood ..eat flesh"

Christ pouring out His Holy Spirit life on dying flesh and blood in jeapordy of his own eternal Spirt life.

He gives us tittle of his faith (power) calling us you little faith ones .Plenty to do the good will of the Father

David imprisoned in doubt .God send a thirst for hearing the gospel encouraging him to be patient

.Beautiful parable (figurative language)

( metaphors )


2 Samuel 23:14-17 And David was then in an hold, and the garrison of the Philistines was then in Bethlehem. (City of bread/ flesh) And David longed, and said, Oh that one would give me drink of the water of the well ( living born again water of the word) of Bethlehem, which is by the gate! And the (work)three mighty men (three the end of a matter) brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water (gospel) out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it (still water) to David: nevertheless he would not drink thereof, but poured it out unto the Lord. And he said, Be it far from me, O Lord, that I should do this: is not this the blood (water) of the men that went in jeopardy of their lives? therefore he would not drink it. These things did these three mighty men.


Change water into the blood grapes in another parable as a figure of speech
 
That the Gentiles were partakers/included of the Lords Covenant is seen here Isa 42:6-7

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

Paul referred to this when he was sent to the Gentiles Acts 26:17-18


17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,

18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God,
that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
 
That the Gentiles were partakers/included of the Lords Covenant is seen here Isa 42:6-7

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

Paul referred to this when he was sent to the Gentiles Acts 26:17-18


17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,

18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God,
that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
These Gentiles are half-Jew and half-Gentile. Like Samaritans. They are still Abraham's seed. No matter the DNA dilution, the Lord knows them that are His and as long as they have at least one Hebrew parent in their ancestry they are still Abraham's seed.
 
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