The Blood of the Covenant

[jeremiah1five]

Hi Jerry,

Why promote God as a liberal Racist? What's the hope?

You as Gentile would say such a thing but if you were Hebrew you would say nothing.

 

[jeremiah1five]

God was in Covenant with Christ, for David was a type Ps 89:3-4

3 I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant,

4 Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah.

The Seed that God promised to establish is the Church, Christs Spiritual Seed, Isa 53:10

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

That is a personal covenant and yet although personal is also national for it centers on the throne in Jerusalem, Israel for a future day.

 

[brightfame52]

Just because the word "covenant" is there doesn't mean Gentiles are now included in covenant.
That's not the case. If God wanted Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew Covenants He would have said so when He made those covenants but He didn't and now you scour the Scriptures for any passage where "Gentile" and "covenant" is found. And there's not even any covenant language as is found in the three Hebrew covenants such as

INTENT:
2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. Gen. 17:2.

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer. 31:31.

PRERQUISITES:
11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. Gen. 17:11.

5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. Ex. 19:5–6.

I can add more of what a true covenant with God looks like. Questions abound. What Name do we give Him? The Hebrews call Him the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; what name will the Gentiles call Him? Herbert? Robert? Dilbert?

Once the Abraham Covenant was made with Abraham and his seed the Hebrew history began to be recorded. Why isn't there any history between Covenant God of Dilbert and the Gentiles, like giving them victory in war over the Hebrews, or why isn't there any Scripture of God feeding and protecting the Gentiles? Why no miraculous stories of cloud by day and pillar of fire by night, or being fed chickens that fall from the sky or no Red Bull coming out of a rock to quench their thirst, or no stories of disobedience and correction from the Gentiles and the God of Dilbert? Why no trek through the desert to find their own homeland, or stories of great Gentile men in Gentile history or stories of great conquests and feats of miraculous strength like Samson or Gideon and characters like David and his son, Solomon?

Why are there no records of family histories like there are like Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and Jacob's twelve sons and their families, like as from David to Solomon and to Rehoboam, etc.? Why is there no Gentile family histories that link up to Israel's Messiah or prophecies going forward that link Israel's Messiah to Israel's Messiah or even prophecies of end time connections linking Israel's Messiah to His Second Coming or why is there no Gentiles at the Last Supper, or no record of Israel's Messiah being witnessed of His crucifixion or no Gentiles being addressed and consulted post-crucifixion in the forty days after His resurrection or no Gentiles at the tomb escorted by the Jewish ladies together finding an empty tomb? Why?

Your attempt to try to teach Gentiles in the three Hebrew covenants is pathetic and is non-existent. Grasping at straws when you should accept the truth that God has no covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles and learn instead the possibility that being born-again and being Gentile most likely indicates that Abraham's seed may just be in your family ancestry and that the Samaritans provide a link to being half-Jew and half-Gentiles is the only reasonable explanation of presumed "non-Hebrew Gentiles" in and through the four historical scatterings of the Hebrew people into and among Gentiles is the reason why and the only reason why there are Gentile-seed being born again is because of the mixed heritage through Hebrew history, a history that among Jews stopped being recorded for the purpose of God bringing in Gentiles only because they have Abraham's DNA somewhere in their family ancestry.

The Samaritans are type and shadow of future Gentile inclusion into the Abraham covenants mainly because they are mixed heritage with the Hebrews which for 19 centuries Jewish history stopped being recorded in Scripture in order to bring in a Jew-Gentile hybrid into salvation. And it is because Abraham's DNA is in their families somewhere in time. For God's purpose after the Assyrian and Babylonian conquest and exile of the Hebrew people their history continued to be recorded, but after the destruction of the Second Jewish Temple that history ceased being recorded if only for the purpose of bringing in Gentiles through Samaritan-type mixed heritage into the Abraham covenant.

You heard it here first.

You dont see that word Covenant in the passage ? Read it Isa 42:6-7

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

 

[brightfame52]

That is a personal covenant and yet although personal is also national for it centers on the throne in Jerusalem, Israel for a future day.

God was in Covenant with Christ, for David was a type Ps 89:3-4

3 I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant,

4 Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah.

The Seed that God promised to establish is the Church, Christs Spiritual Seed, Isa 53:10

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You dont see that word Covenant in the passage ? Read it Isa 42:6-7

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

Yes, I see it. It's a real stretch to say this is a covenant.
Isaiah is referencing Messiah in verse one.
He is "my servant"

 

[jeremiah1five]

God was in Covenant with Christ, for David was a type Ps 89:3-4

3 I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant,

4 Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah.

The Seed that God promised to establish is the Church, Christs Spiritual Seed, Isa 53:10

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

And the spiritual seed are the Olive tree Israel. You should know that.

 

[Mr GLee]

You as Gentile would say such a thing but if you were Hebrew you would say nothing.

God is not a liberal racist. ,

I am an inward Jew. . . would that Count? No DNA needed. Just believe as he gives us the faith his power to both hear and do his good will. (Philippians 2:13 ).

Romans 2:27-29King James Version And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; (death) whose praise is not of men, but of God.


Not all Israel is born again Israel some remained under Jacob the usurper.

Which one with you today? Jacob or Israel?

 

[brightfame52]

Yes, I see it. It's a real stretch to say this is a covenant.
Isaiah is referencing Messiah in verse one.
He is "my servant"

Well if you see it, quit denying it !

 

[brightfame52]

And the spiritual seed are the Olive tree Israel. You should know that.

Christ seed isn't physical dude, its Spiritual, they are born of God Jn 1:13 Isa 53:10

Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days,

 

[jeremiah1five]

Christ seed isn't physical dude, its Spiritual, they are born of God Jn 1:13 Isa 53:10

Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days,

 

[jeremiah1five]

Christ seed isn't physical dude, its Spiritual, they are born of God Jn 1:13 Isa 53:10

Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days,

Yes, it is a spiritual birth from above.
But it occurs to a physical people: the children of Israel who are in salvation covenant with God.

 

[Mr GLee]

Yes, it is a spiritual birth from above.
But it occurs to a physical people: the children of Israel who are in salvation covenant with God.

Hi Jerry .It would seem you have a misunderstanding . The spiritual life is in the Blood .not is the blood

Literal blood without the spirit essence of life must be poured out so it can return the field of clay .According to the law as it s written it must be poured out at he base of the altar to show spirit unseen life was given (a living sacrifice) not working as clay as a image idol

Not all Israel are born again Israel some remained as outward Jews (Jacob) hoping thier dying flesh and blood could profit for something anything ?

Are you a Jew. If so . .Which kind? One that pleases our invisible head Christ or pleasing to dying mankind . . . . false pride ?

Romans 2:28-29King James Version28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (not seen)

 

[brightfame52]

Yes, it is a spiritual birth from above.
But it occurs to a physical people: the children of Israel who are in salvation covenant with God.

Christ seed isn't physical dude, its Spiritual, they are born of God Jn 1:13 Isa 53:10

 

[brightfame52]

Yes, it is a spiritual birth from above.
But it occurs to a physical people: the children of Israel who are in salvation covenant with God.

And the Identifying Mark who that Spiritual Seed is, is their Faith in Christ, their Spiritual progenitor Gal 3:26

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Christ seed isn't physical dude, its Spiritual, they are born of God Jn 1:13 Isa 53:10

Christ is that SEED Saul wrote about. It is His physical Seed.
Christ doesn't have a spiritual seed since He never had a physical seed (offspring.)
He is the recipient of the Abraham Promises and as final holder of the inheritance owns the land God gave Abraham and Christ is now in a position to give what He owns to another, vis-a-vis Israel. No man can give another anything unless that person has it to give. If the land belonged to Abraham and not at one time to Isaac, and then later to Jacob, and then later still as inheritance the children of Israel and finally Christ, then Christ could not give it to someone else if Christ did not inherit those promises.
Christ doesn't have seed but God does (1 John.)

 

[jeremiah1five]

And the Identifying Mark who that Spiritual Seed is, is their Faith in Christ, their Spiritual progenitor Gal 3:26

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Saul is writing about children of God the Father.
Christ does not have a spiritual seed. I am not a son of Christ but a brother.
God is our Father. Adopted or otherwise.

 

[Mr GLee]

Christ is that SEED Saul wrote about. It is His physical Seed.
Christ doesn't have a spiritual seed since He never had a physical seed (offspring.)
He is the recipient of the Abraham Promises and as final holder of the inheritance owns the land God gave Abraham and Christ is now in a position to give what He owns to another, vis-a-vis Israel. No man can give another anything unless that person has it to give. If the land belonged to Abraham and not at one time to Isaac, and then later to Jacob, and then later still as inheritance the children of Israel and finally Christ, then Christ could not give it to someone else if Christ did not inherit those promises.
Christ doesn't have seed but God does (1 John.)

Hi did you forget again that God is not a racist?

Is the physical seed in respect to a outward Jew whose praise is of dying mankind or a inward born again whose praise of of God who is not a racist?

Romans 2:27-29 King James Version2 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Christ is Spirit. As eternal God he remains without mother of father beginning of Spirit life nor end of life

Hebrews 7King James Version7 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

 

[brightfame52]

Christ is that SEED Saul wrote about. It is His physical Seed.
Christ doesn't have a spiritual seed since He never had a physical seed (offspring.)
He is the recipient of the Abraham Promises and as final holder of the inheritance owns the land God gave Abraham and Christ is now in a position to give what He owns to another, vis-a-vis Israel. No man can give another anything unless that person has it to give. If the land belonged to Abraham and not at one time to Isaac, and then later to Jacob, and then later still as inheritance the children of Israel and finally Christ, then Christ could not give it to someone else if Christ did not inherit those promises.
Christ doesn't have seed but God does (1 John.)

Christ seed isn't physical dude, its Spiritual, they are born of God Jn 1:13 Isa 53:10

 

[brightfame52]

Saul is writing about children of God the Father.
Christ does not have a spiritual seed. I am not a son of Christ but a brother.
God is our Father. Adopted or otherwise.

And the Identifying Mark who that Spiritual Seed is, is their Faith in Christ, their Spiritual progenitor Gal 3:26

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. And Faith is the fruit of the Spirit, its not born of the flesh

 

[jeremiah1five]

Christ seed isn't physical dude, its Spiritual, they are born of God Jn 1:13 Isa 53:10

You misunderstood me or I wasn't clear. Christ is the physical seed, not that He has physical seed. He doesn't He is childless.
Nor does Christ have spiritual seed. God is Father, not Christ. Christ is my bruh although I am adopted.