THE ANGELS THAT SINNED

[jeremiah1five]

God made spirits for His angels, and the manner in which they operate is like flames of fire and wind. This does not mean that they are incorporeal and immaterial beings. Their species is made of a different substance than humankind, which was also given a spirit.

Then you do not understand the biblical meaning of 'spirit(s)."
I suppose the Holy "Spirit" has a body, too.

Those "celestial bodies" which Paul described for angels in contrast to humanity's "terrestrial bodies" used the Greek term "somata", which is related to something having a life force. That means these "celestial bodies" were not being equated with the sun, moon, and stars which don't have a "somata" form in 1 Cor. 15:40-41.

Good Lord, man. Where are you getting your instruction?

40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: 1 Cor. 15:40.

celestial: Strong's Greek #2032
Greek Word: ἐπουράνιος
Transliteration: epouranios
It's an adjective.

English Words used in KJV:
heavenly 16
celestial 2
in heaven 1
high 1
[Total Count: 20]

from <G#1909> (epi) and <G3772> (ouranos); above the sky.

It means "above sky." Again, there is no reference to angels, demons, or devils. It merely means "above sky."

terrestial: Strong's Greek #1919 "epigeios" from #1909 'epi" and #1093 "ge" "soil."

It means "worldly" (physically or morally). It is translated as "earthly" in earth" and "terrestrial."

Still, and again, no mention of angels, demons, devils, Satan. You're making all this up and I am getting weary with your falsehood and contradicting God.

 

[jeremiah1five]

I suppose, in eternity we can all ask God what he was thinking.

Hello Rella. Are you male or female?

For now we only have what was recorded within the four corners of the Holy Bible.... (every translation)

Not every English translation is the same. Today's modern-day, new-age translations are derived from corrupt Greek texts used by Westcott and Hort and their team in the late 1800s.

And what was recorded back in Genesis is allegedly written by Moses, and has always been understood that Moses writings were inspired by God.

We are told.... OF THE NEPHLIM.... THANK YOU MOSES.... (or whoever) in Genesis. (There is an especially interesting study is about the Nephlim who came about after the flood... but that is a story for another day)
And it has been basically understood these Nephlim were the children of the "Sons of God"

And these "Sons of God" it has been understood to be from days of old, and likely the most widely held, interpretation is that the "sons of God" are fallen angels (demons).

The "sons of God" are/were the godly line of Seth who were in Covenant with God. The married women outside the Covenant and became unequally yoked with unbelievers and their children grew up without God and without restriction and became "giants" which the word is a mistranslation for the Hebrew word merely means "bullies" and "tyrants" which is what any child will become without proper training. If you train a child in the way he/she should go - spoken to believers - they will not depart it. This is why God commanded eventually in Deuteronomy 6:4ff to read, talk, and study His Word so that we can become obedient to Him and not others or ourselves.
Angels are spirit beings and don't have bodies nor creative power like God to create bodies. Besides this, they are all locked up.

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2 Pet. 2:4.

This interpretation is most favored in ancient Judaism and the early church (see 1 Pet. 3:19-20; 2 Pet. 2:4; and especially Jude 6 ).
We simply do not know when an angel, or spirit being comes on earth what they can or cannot do... or how they appear.

Remember we are told in Heb 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. So they, who are also spirit beings can have the appearance of common man, and if they are "to be entertained" must also be able to be as common man.

In the first century there was no social media but there were traveling prophets and apostles and evangelists and pastors and teachers of God. It was instruction to God's people to be hospitable to everyone because you might meet up with a prophet pastor, etc.
There is nothing to say they are angels.

We are told that Matthew 22:30 declares, “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.” However, the text does not say “angels are not able to marry.” Rather, it indicates only that angels do not marry. Second, Matthew 22:30 is referring to the “angels in heaven.” It is not referring to fallen angels, who do not care about God’s created order and actively seek ways to disrupt God’s plan. The fact that God’s holy angels do not marry or engage in sexual relations does not mean the same is true of Satan and his demons.

So, sinning angels involve themselves in HOLY matrimony?
They are spirit and humans are material, natural, have bodies that angels do not have.

Get past 2 Peter 2:4 and we'll discuss this. But for now, as in the past the angels are locked up for their original rebellion BEFORE God created man.

 

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

But for now, as in the past the angels are locked up for their original rebellion BEFORE God created man.

@jeremiah1five Have you read the Book of Enoch? It seems to be the source for most of what we know about the rebellious angels. It doesn't have them locked up before mankind exists, though.

 

[Hobie]

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment. 2 Peter 2:4.

The number of angels that sinned are one-third.

They are ALL "cast to hell, and delivered in chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment."

ALL the angels that sinned.

This means that any and all evil in the world is the result of the sinful nature in mankind.
And it is all-encompassing:

5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only.
Gen. 6:5.

This explains a great deal, such as the sons of God who married the daughters of men were human, those from the Covenant line of Seth and the ungodly line of men and women who disobeyed the LORD.

Jesus seeing Satan fall as lightning was at the time God cast them to hell reserved in chains of darkness awaiting the judgment.

There is no Satan except as the word is used: adjective and noun - "adversary."

Well, we have to look at the at the translation of the words closely to see their original meaning:

· Hades was the Greek work used in some places for the Hebrew term, Sheol or grave as "the place of the dead". Thus, it is used in reference to both the righteous and the wicked, since both wind up there eventually.
· Gehenna refers to the "Valley of Hinnon", which was a garbage dump outside of Jerusalem. It was a place where people burned their garbage and thus there was always a fire burning there. Bodies of those deemed to have died in sin without hope of salvation were thrown there to be destroyed. Gehenna is used in the New Testament as a metaphor for the final place of punishment for the wicked after the resurrection.
· Tartaro (the verb "throw to Tartarus") occurs only once in the New Testament in II Peter 2:4, and basically means the abyss or oblivion.
· The Hebrew word Abaddon, meaning to perish or "destruction", is sometimes used and basically means the same as the abyss or oblivion.

In most translations they often translate Gehenna as "Hell" which was the Greek closest to the meaning. Young's Literal Translation is a notable exception, simply using "Gehenna".

As you can see, Hades is the Greek word used for the Hebrew word Sheol in Greek translations of the Hebrew Bible. While earlier translations most often translated Hades as "hell", as does the King James Version, modern translations use the transliteration "Hades", or render the word as allusions "to the grave", "among the dead", "place of the dead" and similiar uses in other verses.

In the Hebrew text it teaches that when people die they go to sheol, the grave , Gehenna which is the consuming by fire of the wicked. Which when the grave or the eternal oblivion of the wicked was translated into Greek, the word Hades was sometimes used, which is a term for the realm of the dead. Nevertheless the meaning depending on context was the grave, death, or the end of the wicked in which they are ultimately destroyed in the specific way in which scripture shows at the end, which is a consuming fire which destroys them for eternity "the lake of fire" Revelation 20:15 . And since the lake of fire has not occurred, the question is where are they, as Christ had to deal with them here on earth....

Matthew 4:24
And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.

Matthew 8:16
When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:

Matthew 8:28
And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

Matthew 8:31
So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.

And that is just Matthews..

 

[CrowCross]

I accept that the angels that sinned are locked up.

What about the prince of Persia? Dan 10:13....he didn't seem to be locked up.

 

[CrowCross]

(There is an especially interesting study is about the Nephlim who came about after the flood... but that is a story for another day)

I would love to hear it.

My theory is the angels did it again with the women like in Gen 6...or...they are the offspring of one of Noahs sons wives who had Nephlim blood..

 

[jeremiah1five]

@jeremiah1five Have you read the Book of Enoch? It seems to be the source for most of what we know about the rebellious angels. It doesn't have them locked up before mankind exists, though.

Writing didn't develop until much later.
You see, the Scriptures that make up today's bible, and I mean the KJV, all complement each other in doctrine. This was one of four reasons why the various writing of the bible became bible.
If Enoch's book was of any value, it would have been part of the writings making up the Old Testament but it's not.
I trust God in this. There are just too many inconsistencies and contradiction against the received text of the OT and if it wasn't God's purpose to include it in either the OT or the NT there is a reason why.
It was not inspired of God.
If we go beyond what is already received by the Church where does it stop? What other texts will the itching ears of believers consult when attempting to focus on the One True God?

All this does is set up believers to a possible finding and acceptance in the future of other texts found in caves in jars that were written by apostles or prophets.

What if 1 Corinthians was found? The real 1 Corinthians? In today's 1 Corinthians Paul mentions an epistle he wrote to them earlier that was lost and so the real 2 Corinthians became 1 Corinthians in the Received Text. What if this epistle was found then what? What if it contains information that might shatter long held belief about God that disturbs the faith of millions? Well, I would have to rely on those that will study the text and their commentaries. But I know without a doubt that if such an epistle were found it would not unite the Church but have a tendency at tearing it to shreds. Jesus did say He came to bring division so maybe it will be a good thing. What separates true sheep from wolves in sheep's clothing in the Church today is truth from error. True believers are taught by the Holy Spirit under the anointing and their doctrine is not askew but uniform in discerning the truth about God. But that is the harm the Church inflicts upon itself when they invite wolves into their fellowships because they misunderstand God's command to love ONLY brethren but disobey Him by loving the unsaved "neighbor" and cast their pearls to swine and give that which is holy (God's love) to dogs (non-covenant.) The false brethren sit in our pews under the mistaken idea that because the asked "Jesus into their heart they are saved" and now the enemy is in the sheepfold creating chaos if not outright killing brethren (not physically but spiritually through their false conversion and their misunderstanding of the Bible.) Maybe they regurgitate what they've read of our theologians but never have an inspired thought of their own by which to assist in growing the believer, if not the Church.

I would rather stay focused on what we do have instead of looking for Jesus "over there," or "in the fields" or "on the housetop" or "in the secret place." I'd prefer to not confuse myself by seeking God in a place that seems like He's there but really isn't. If you think my thoughts are narrow on this subject that's OK. That's where my feet are.

 

[SeventhDay]

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment. 2 Peter 2:4.

The number of angels that sinned are one-third.

They are ALL "cast to hell, and delivered in chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment."

ALL the angels that sinned.

This means that any and all evil in the world is the result of the sinful nature in mankind.
And it is all-encompassing:

5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only.
Gen. 6:5.

This explains a great deal, such as the sons of God who married the daughters of men were human, those from the Covenant line of Seth and the ungodly line of men and women who disobeyed the LORD.

Jesus seeing Satan fall as lightning was at the time God cast them to hell reserved in chains of darkness awaiting the judgment.

There is no Satan except as the word is used: adjective and noun - "adversary."

It appears to me that our carnal mind is our worst adversary!

 

[jeremiah1five]

What about the prince of Persia? Dan 10:13....he didn't seem to be locked up.

5 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: 6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. Dan. 10:5–6.

Sounds like a similar description of the Son of Man in Revelation.

12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. Rev. 1:12–15.

You're going to tell me that a fallen angel withstood the Son of God for three weeks?
But what happen after that?

7 And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. 8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. 9 Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground. 10 And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands. 11 And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling. Dan. 10:7–11.

Daniel was not the only prophet taken into captivity. This was a vision. Maybe this other prophet wanted to go to Daniel, but the prince of Persia didn't allow it until God intervened? Have you ever considered the players here were men? Or is it because Michael was named that the opposing force must be a fallen angel? Michael is the protector of Israel. Israel was in captivity. Why wouldn't Michael be involved for some reason to assist the apple of God's eye and His Chosen people? It is not unreasonable. But that's not how believers have been trained to see this. They think fallen angels are loose on the planet frustrating the hand of God in the world. A western version of the Yin and the Yang.
Dualism.

 

[SeventhDay]

Writing didn't develop until much later.
You see, the Scriptures that make up today's bible, and I mean the KJV, all complement each other in doctrine. This was one of four reasons why the various writing of the bible became bible.
If Enoch's book was of any value, it would have been part of the writings making up the Old Testament but it's not.
I trust God in this. There are just too many inconsistencies and contradiction against the received text of the OT and if it wasn't God's purpose to include it in either the OT or the NT there is a reason why.
It was not inspired of God.
If we go beyond what is already received by the Church where does it stop? What other texts will the itching ears of believers consult when attempting to focus on the One True God?

All this does is set up believers to a possible finding and acceptance in the future of other texts found in caves in jars that were written by apostles or prophets.

What if 1 Corinthians was found? The real 1 Corinthians? In today's 1 Corinthians Paul mentions an epistle he wrote to them earlier that was lost and so the real 2 Corinthians became 1 Corinthians in the Received Text. What if this epistle was found then what? What if it contains information that might shatter long held belief about God that disturbs the faith of millions? Well, I would have to rely on those that will study the text and their commentaries. But I know without a doubt that if such an epistle were found it would not unite the Church but have a tendency at tearing it to shreds. Jesus did say He came to bring division so maybe it will be a good thing. What separates true sheep from wolves in sheep's clothing in the Church today is truth from error. True believers are taught by the Holy Spirit under the anointing and their doctrine is not askew but uniform in discerning the truth about God. But that is the harm the Church inflicts upon itself when they invite wolves into their fellowships because they misunderstand God's command to love ONLY brethren but disobey Him by loving the unsaved "neighbor" and cast their pearls to swine and give that which is holy (God's love) to dogs (non-covenant.) The false brethren sit in our pews under the mistaken idea that because the asked "Jesus into their heart they are saved" and now the enemy is in the sheepfold creating chaos if not outright killing brethren (not physically but spiritually through their false conversion and their misunderstanding of the Bible.) Maybe they regurgitate what they've read of our theologians but never have an inspired thought of their own by which to assist in growing the believer, if not the Church.

I would rather stay focused on what we do have instead of looking for Jesus "over there," or "in the fields" or "on the housetop" or "in the secret place." I'd prefer to not confuse myself by seeking God in a place that seems like He's there but really isn't. If you think my thoughts are narrow on this subject that's OK. That's where my feet are.

The Spirit of Christ within us is where we will find Jesus our King and the King and kingdom is within us.

I question the quote in the scriptures concerning Enoch as well. Now if Adam was made perfect he would not have given in to the carnal mind.

However, scriptures do not teach that Satan was once good and became bad. Satan was a liar and a murder from the beginning but the same can not be said of man who was innocence until he was given the law and rebelled against it.

As for angel if God made them perfect the they would remained perfect. Thus if they were good an not perfect like Adam they could sin. However, did God give laws to angels and do angels have carnal minds?

 

[CrowCross]

You're going to tell me that a fallen angel withstood the Son of God for three weeks?

The fallen angel fought Michael...not the Son of God.

 

[SeventhDay]

5 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: 6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. Dan. 10:5–6.

Sounds like a similar description of the Son of Man in Revelation.

12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. Rev. 1:12–15.

You're going to tell me that a fallen angel withstood the Son of God for three weeks?
But what happen after that?

7 And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. 8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. 9 Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground. 10 And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands. 11 And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling. Dan. 10:7–11.

Daniel was not the only prophet taken into captivity. This was a vision. Maybe this other prophet wanted to go to Daniel, but the prince of Persia didn't allow it until God intervened? Have you ever considered the players here were men? Or is it because Michael was named that the opposing force must be a fallen angel? Michael is the protector of Israel. Israel was in captivity. Why wouldn't Michael be involved for some reason to assist the apple of God's eye and His Chosen people? It is not unreasonable. But that's not how believers have been trained to see this. They think fallen angels are loose on the planet frustrating the hand of God in the world. A western version of the Yin and the Yang.
Dualism.

Or Zoroastrianism which is also dualistic.

 

[Keiw1]

Evidence from scripture please?

Revelation 12:9--says they were cast to the earth. According to the prophecy in Daniel 4 that occurred in 1914

 

[jeremiah1five]

Well, we have to look at the at the translation of the words closely to see their original meaning:

· Hades was the Greek work used in some places for the Hebrew term, Sheol or grave as "the place of the dead". Thus, it is used in reference to both the righteous and the wicked, since both wind up there eventually.
· Gehenna refers to the "Valley of Hinnon", which was a garbage dump outside of Jerusalem. It was a place where people burned their garbage and thus there was always a fire burning there. Bodies of those deemed to have died in sin without hope of salvation were thrown there to be destroyed. Gehenna is used in the New Testament as a metaphor for the final place of punishment for the wicked after the resurrection.
· Tartaro (the verb "throw to Tartarus") occurs only once in the New Testament in II Peter 2:4, and basically means the abyss or oblivion.
· The Hebrew word Abaddon, meaning to perish or "destruction", is sometimes used and basically means the same as the abyss or oblivion.

In most translations they often translate Gehenna as "Hell" which was the Greek closest to the meaning. Young's Literal Translation is a notable exception, simply using "Gehenna".

As you can see, Hades is the Greek word used for the Hebrew word Sheol in Greek translations of the Hebrew Bible. While earlier translations most often translated Hades as "hell", as does the King James Version, modern translations use the transliteration "Hades", or render the word as allusions "to the grave", "among the dead", "place of the dead" and similiar uses in other verses.

In the Hebrew text it teaches that when people die they go to sheol, the grave , Gehenna which is the consuming by fire of the wicked. Which when the grave or the eternal oblivion of the wicked was translated into Greek, the word Hades was sometimes used, which is a term for the realm of the dead. Nevertheless the meaning depending on context was the grave, death, or the end of the wicked in which they are ultimately destroyed in the specific way in which scripture shows at the end, which is a consuming fire which destroys them for eternity "the lake of fire" Revelation 20:15 . And since the lake of fire has not occurred, the question is where are they, as Christ had to deal with them here on earth....

Very good.

Matthew 4:24
And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.

The word "devils" is a verb in this passage.

Matthew 8:16
When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:

The word "devils" is a verb in this passage.

Matthew 8:28
And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

The word "devils" is a verb in this passage.

Matthew 8:31
So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.

The word "devils" is a verb in this passage.

And that is just Matthews..

From James Strong:

Greek Word: δαιμονίζομαι
Transliteration: daimonizomai

English Words used in KJV:
possessed with devils 4 times
possessed with the devil 3
of the devils 2
vexed with a devil 1
possessed with a devil 1
have a devil 1
[Total Count: 13]

middle from <G#1142> (daimon); to be exercised by a dæmon.

Strong's G#1142 from daio (to distribute fortunes); a dæmon or supernatural spirit (of a bad nature.)

Attitudes, especially evil ones are (of a bad nature.)

 

[jeremiah1five]

The Spirit of Christ within us is where we will find Jesus our King and the King and kingdom is within us.

I question the quote in the scriptures concerning Enoch as well. Now if Adam was made perfect he would not have given in to the carnal mind.

However, scriptures do not teach that Satan was once good and became bad. Satan was a liar and a murder from the beginning but the same can not be said of man who was innocence until he was given the law and rebelled against it.

As for angel if God made them perfect the they would remained perfect. Thus if they were good an not perfect like Adam they could sin. However, did God give laws to angels and do angels have carnal minds?

God cannot reduplicate Himself in creation. Thus, Scripture says:
There is only ONE God.
There is NONE like Him.
He gives His glory to NO ONE.
So, whatever God creates, whether angel or man will be created fallen short of the glory of God.
And for the sake of argument IF God did reduplicate, copy, mimic, or share His HOLY glory with angel or man they would of necessity MUST possess ALL the Deific Attributes and Nature of God or they would STILL fall short of the glory of God. Angel and man IF were holy would have to be all-knowing, all-wise, all-powerful, all-good, all-longsuffering, all-merciful, everywhere (omnipresent), etc.
There is only ONE Person that can stand before a Holy God and that is a Holy Son and a Holy Spirit.
So, no, angel and man were created sinful or as the word is defined and translated in the KJV as "missing the mark [of the glory of God], sinful (harmatia.)
As far as the elect angels that did not sin, I believe God has them in a sinless state. Not sinless like God but kept in a sinless state. The power of God can do that. Something like the state we will be in in heaven when all is said and done. Besides, if we are HID in Christ and God can only see His Son and not us because His eyes are of a purer sort to look upon evil, I'd say our Mediator and Advocate stands before God and God only sees Him and we enjoy the Father through the Son.
Always through the Son.

 

[jeremiah1five]

The fallen angel fought Michael...not the Son of God.

Scripture, please.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Revelation 12:9--says they were cast to the earth. According to the prophecy in Daniel 4 that occurred in 1914

No, no, no, and no.
Your calculations are off.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Or Zoroastrianism which is also dualistic.

There are a lot of Zorro's in the Church.

 

[Rella]

Hello Rella. Are you male or female?

Yes. Does it matter?

Not every English translation is the same. Today's modern-day, new-age translations are derived from corrupt Greek texts used by Westcott and Hort and their team in the late 1800s.

True, but those in the early 1600s and earlier do not appear to have faired ,uch better.

The "sons of God" are/were the godly line of Seth who were in Covenant with God. The married women outside the Covenant and became unequally yoked with unbelievers and their children grew up without God and without restriction and became "giants" which the word is a mistranslation for the Hebrew word merely means "bullies" and "tyrants" which is what any child will become without proper training. If you train a child in the way he/she should go - spoken to believers - they will not depart it. This is why God commanded eventually in Deuteronomy 6:4ff to read, talk, and study His Word so that we can become obedient to Him and not others or ourselves.
Angels are spirit beings and don't have bodies nor creative power like God to create bodies. Besides this, they are all locked up.

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2 Pet. 2:4.

In the first century there was no social media but there were traveling prophets and apostles and evangelists and pastors and teachers of God. It was instruction to God's people to be hospitable to everyone because you might meet up with a prophet pastor, etc.
There is nothing to say they are angels.

Except as said in the Greek/English Interlinear... last part of Hebrews 13:2 where it was recorded as "some have entertained angels.

So, sinning angels involve themselves in HOLY matrimony?
They are spirit and humans are material, natural, have bodies that angels do not have.

So those the men wanted at Sodom had to be simply men like themselves?????

Get past 2 Peter 2:4 and we'll discuss this. But for now, as in the past the angels are locked up for their original rebellion BEFORE God created man.

Read the Book of Enoch that Wycliffes_Shillelagh suggested.

Just curious... where do you stand on Satan's being bound?

​

 

[jeremiah1five]

Yes. Does it matter?

Yes. To me it does.