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Jesus was never prayed to once in the Bible

God and the Lamb both have wrath. You're telling me you think that the Lamb has wrath but God doesn't? That's why it says "their" in most Bibles and in the Greek manuscripts.


That's a bit reaching. There is actually a lot of contest around this verse. Rather than call me and other Christians deceptive for saying that, perhaps you should research the matter for yourself.
Not that it made a difference, but I checked the accuracy of this claim,

In the original its his wrath singular

ὅτι ἦλθεν ἡ ἡμέρα ἡ μεγάλη τῆς ὀργῆς αὐτοῦ, καὶ τίς δύναται σταθῆνα

The pronoun is genitive singular

It makes sense because in Vs 16 the focus is on the wrath of the Lamb

So the poster is very deceptive
 
Not that it made a difference, but I checked the accuracy of this claim,

In the original its his wrath singular

ὅτι ἦλθεν ἡ ἡμέρα ἡ μεγάλη τῆς ὀργῆς αὐτοῦ, καὶ τίς δύναται σταθῆνα

The pronoun is genitive singular

It makes sense because in Vs 16 the focus is on the wrath of the Lamb

So the poster is very deceptive
Regardless, the lamb isn't Lord God Almighty according to scripture.

Revelation 21
22But I saw no temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
 
Within the verse.

Classic.

Thanks.
I am asking you to explain, or exegete, what you're seeing so we can discuss if it's Biblically viable or not.
 
I am asking you to explain, or exegete, what you're seeing so we can discuss if it's Biblically viable or not.

No.
I have tried to do that with you in the past concerning many passages but your moronic responses and evasions were incessant.

So I am not going to waste my time doing so with you.

Don't like it?
Tough.
 
No.
I have tried to do that with you in the past concerning many passages but your moronic responses and evasions were incessant.

So I am not going to waste my time doing so with you.

Don't like it?
Tough.
Why are you telling me Acts 2:33 "teaches" something and then when I ask what it is you refuse to explain yourself?
 
See post 625.
Fine I'll quote Acts 2:33 and say what it teaches. I'll even use the KJV because I am in the mood and like the word it words things.

Acts 2
33Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

In Acts 2:33 it teaches that Jesus is at the right hand of God which means Jesus isn't God.

There is the person God and then at God's right hand is Jesus. The right hand is actually symbolic of a place of power and authority, but not the source of the power and authority. Luke 22:69 refers to Jesus positionally at the right hand of the Power of God. That's interesting because the Bible doesn't normally say "the power of God" but rather just God. Positionally, Jesus isn't even the power.

This is why if you look at examples such as Acts 2:22, Acts 4:30, Acts 10:38, etc that God actually used Jesus to perform miracles through. Or, as Jesus said in John 14:10 "...the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

Therefore, Acts 2:33 is actually one of the great refutes of the Trinity.
 
Fine I'll quote Acts 2:33 and say what it teaches. I'll even use the KJV because I am in the mood and like the word it words things.

Acts 2
33Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

In Acts 2:33 it teaches that Jesus is at the right hand of God which means Jesus isn't God.

There is the person God and then at God's right hand is Jesus. The right hand is actually symbolic of a place of power and authority, but not the source of the power and authority. Luke 22:69 refers to Jesus positionally at the right hand of the Power of God. That's interesting because the Bible doesn't normally say "the power of God" but rather just God. Positionally, Jesus isn't even the power.

This is why if you look at examples such as Acts 2:22, Acts 4:30, Acts 10:38, etc that God actually used Jesus to perform miracles through. Or, as Jesus said in John 14:10 "...the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

Therefore, Acts 2:33 is actually one of the great refutes of the Trinity.

Which of course totally dodged the fact that the Lord Jesus pours out the Holy Spirit according to Acts 2:33.

Simple.
 
Which of course totally dodged the fact that the Lord Jesus pours out the Holy Spirit according to Acts 2:33.

Simple.
The Holy Spirit of the Father is poured out dying flesh of mankind lIke that of Jesus the Son of man our brother in the Lord . God is not a Jewish man as King of kings
 
The Holy Spirit of the Father is poured out dying flesh of mankind lIke that of Jesus the Son of man our brother in the Lord . God is not a Jewish man as King of kings

According to Acts 2:33 Jesus pours out the Holy Spirit.
 
that's good advice but trin followers don't do such a thing. It is too much work to seek the truth for them. It is so much easier to go with the flaw.
Yes, but perhaps they will get a taste of the truth and find it's pleasing. Or not. We can only hope and pray.
 
Regardless, the lamb isn't Lord God Almighty according to scripture.

Revelation 21
22But I saw no temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
Not that it made a difference, but I checked the accuracy of this claim,

In the original its his wrath singular

ὅτι ἦλθεν ἡ ἡμέρα ἡ μεγάλη τῆς ὀργῆς αὐτοῦ, καὶ τίς δύναται σταθῆνα

The pronoun is genitive singular

It makes sense because in Vs 16 the focus is on the wrath of the Lamb

So the poster is very deceptive
 
Indeed.

You need to get rid of your confusion by reading the Bible with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
I'm still waiting for you to refute my position.
And don't say you have but I don't receive it. It's always the losers that turn to insults when they lose an argument.
 
ALL Christians are commanded to be biblical in their relationship to God. Their doctrinal understanding of God and His "so-great salvation" must also be biblical. As I've said many times, we must ALL see the same Jesus Christ, we must ALL say the same thing as God. To do otherwise is to OPPOSE Him.
There is distinction between many groups of people. At the beginning of the true Church era which continued on the Day of Pentecost (ca. AD 32) in which after Israel's Messiah ascended, He ten days later sent the Holy Spirit of Promise to His covenant people Israel. And for about four decades until the destruction of Israel and their Second Temple the Church of God was populated by Jews whom God saved and birthed as per covenant and prophecy.
The first century reformation of the church (Hebrew 9). the government of Christ"our invisible head was restored back to the period of Judges' in Acts, promised by Joel .

Men and women prophets from all the nations of the world No women prophets when there were kings in Israel (the abomination of desolation) Men only club. no Jewish woman or gentile . . gender orientated a lie from the father of lies. . God is not a man

Joel:27-29 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the Lord your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;(every nation) and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

When the faithless atheist Jews heard the prophecy of Joel that thought the apostles were drunk Our Father hiding the understanding from the atheist Jew.

The faithless unbelieving Jew (1 Samuel 8) demanded that Christ in whom they had no faith in (coming from) . .demanded of Samuel our brother in the lord , the apostle, to give them a Kings to reign over them just like all the Pagan Nations of the world (out of sight out of mind . . . what you see is all you get .) In other words who in their right mind believes in a personal God not seen. Give us Cesar? Crucify the Son of man (dying mankind )

The first member of the bride of Christ is Able, the first prophet sent as a apostle. . martyred for exercising his new born again faith yoked with Christ . Abel our brother in the Lord was used to represent the born again spirit that works in with us, . . the seed the second born , The seed that Onan spilled or the seed (Christ) that Esau seeing no value in the spiritual things sold his birthright for a cup of hariy goat soup.

Abel our brother in the lord. He was replaced by Seth in order to continue the born again seed of Christ. It came to fruition at the birth of the Son of man Jesus who said of his Jewish flesh informs us it profits for zero.

God promised (Isaiah 62) to and did rename his Bride in Acts. Previously calling her Israel, as in all Israel is not born again Israel, some remained an outward Jew, like Jacob before his conversion. . according to thier dying flesh and not a inward Jew who praise is of God not seen. . . . not dying mankind seen to the new name Christian , more befitting name to represent the bride of all nations of the world named after her founder and husband Christ.
 
I'm still waiting for you to refute my position.
And don't say you have but I don't receive it. It's always the losers that turn to insults when they lose an argument.
All my claims are fact-based on your fruit and how you interpret the Bible.

I don't take a baiting lengthy posting.

there are too many repetitions and already debuted.

You just cannot take the Truth.
 
Not that it made a difference, but I checked the accuracy of this claim,

In the original its his wrath singular

ὅτι ἦλθεν ἡ ἡμέρα ἡ μεγάλη τῆς ὀργῆς αὐτοῦ, καὶ τίς δύναται σταθῆνα

The pronoun is genitive singular

It makes sense because in Vs 16 the focus is on the wrath of the Lamb

So the poster is very deceptive
The original contains the word "their."

Regardless of whether it is "he" or "their" we can actually test your claim by allowing it to say "he." That doesn't presuppose that the Lamb is God since there are multiple thrones in heaven. God has a throne, Jesus has a throne, the saints have thrones. Not all of the thrones are equal or the same. There likely aren't literal thrones either, but rather the throne is a symbol of reign and power.

Proof there are many thrones in heaven and that Jesus isn't God.

Revelation 3
21To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

Revelation 7
10And they cried out in a loud voice:
“Salvation to our God,
who sits on the throne,

and to the Lamb!”

Matthew 19
28Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
 
The original contains the word "their."

Regardless of whether it is "he" or "their" we can actually test your claim by allowing it to say "he." That doesn't presuppose that the Lamb is God since there are multiple thrones in heaven. God has a throne, Jesus has a throne, the saints have thrones. Not all of the thrones are equal or the same. There likely aren't literal thrones either, but rather the throne is a symbol of reign and power.

Proof there are many thrones in heaven and that Jesus isn't God.

Revelation 3
21To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

Revelation 7
10And they cried out in a loud voice:
“Salvation to our God,
who sits on the throne,

and to the Lamb!”

Matthew 19
28Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Not that it made a difference, but I checked the accuracy of this claim,

In the original its his wrath singular

ὅτι ἦλθεν ἡ ἡμέρα ἡ μεγάλη τῆς ὀργῆς αὐτοῦ, καὶ τίς δύναται σταθῆνα

The pronoun is genitive singular

It makes sense because in Vs 16 the focus is on the wrath of the Lamb

So the poster is very deceptive
 
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