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Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

Is immersion required?

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Immersion, pouring, or sprinkling 3 time with pure water are the valid matter of baptism.
According to TRADITION (written by men but not recorded in Scripture, therefore not "God-breathed").

Ez 36:25 I will sprinkle you with clean water and you shall be made white as snow.
By GOD, not by men (Priest is not qualified to do what only God can do).

Isa 52:15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; (baptism)
By GOD, not by men (Priest is not qualified to do what only God can do).

1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. (Baptism)
By GOD, not by men (Priest is not qualified to do what only God can do).
[Does anyone else see a pattern here?]

It is one thing for a Bishop to conflate his authority with that of an Apostle. It seems an error of another magnitude for a Priest to conflate his power and authority with that of God (Father, Son and Spirit). That is EXACTLY why the Baptists read scripture when Bibles returned to vernacular and chose the Word of God over a tradition that elevates men to usurp the power and authority of God. I cannot speak for other reformed traditions, since the Lutherans and Anglicans were comfortable with many Catholic Traditions, but we Baptists were apalled when we compared what God said with what you claimed He said ... so we chose THE WORD above all other authority. We follow what the APOSTLES taught, not what their alleged successors teach.

Do we Baptists get stuff wrong? Yup, big time. However we get stuff wrong striving to follow the norma normans non normata* -- “The norm of norms that is not normed.”

* (Scripture is the standard according to which all other standards are measured, and which has no higher standard against which it is measured.)
 
First century catacombs were where Christians hid out not the enemy of christ
Do the writings of the ECFs contain heretical beliefs?
[Just a simple YES or NO.]

The only goal is to establish 1st Century infallibility within the Church so we can accept the artwork as "God-breathed".
 
Sprinkle: refers to baptismal regeneration!
Except the very WORD "Baptizo" means to immerse ... so: "Sprinkle refers to immersion regeneration!" ... REALLY? :ROFLMAO:
 
Water AND the spirit is the biblical mandate!

Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the
kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit." John 3:5​


Water baptism does not produce any birth.

Yet? There are two births Jesus spoke of.

1.) Physical birth.

2.) Spiritual birth.

That is why Jesus used the term "born again."
When you were about to be born physically?
Your mother broke water!
FIRST BIRTH!

When you were being born spiritually?
The Holy Spirit begot your human spirit.
SECOND BIRTH!

A woman breaks water when she begins the process of giving birth.


grace and peace .............
 
According to TRADITION (written by men but not recorded in Scripture, therefore not "God-breathed").


By GOD, not by men (Priest is not qualified to do what only God can do).


By GOD, not by men (Priest is not qualified to do what only God can do).


By GOD, not by men (Priest is not qualified to do what only God can do).
[Does anyone else see a pattern here?]

It is one thing for a Bishop to conflate his authority with that of an Apostle. It seems an error of another magnitude for a Priest to conflate his power and authority with that of God (Father, Son and Spirit). That is EXACTLY why the Baptists read scripture when Bibles returned to vernacular and chose the Word of God over a tradition that elevates men to usurp the power and authority of God. I cannot speak for other reformed traditions, since the Lutherans and Anglicans were comfortable with many Catholic Traditions, but we Baptists were apalled when we compared what God said with what you claimed He said ... so we chose THE WORD above all other authority. We follow what the APOSTLES taught, not what their alleged successors teach.

Do we Baptists get stuff wrong? Yup, big time. However we get stuff wrong striving to follow the norma normans non normata* -- “The norm of norms that is not normed.”

* (Scripture is the standard according to which all other standards are measured, and which has no higher standard against which it is measured.)
The apostles are God breathed!
Jn 20:21-23

Christ appointed them not self-appointed Lk 22:29

Spiritual Fathers have care for our souls!

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Jn 21:17 feed my sheep:

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.


Heb 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, (apostles) who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, (apostles) and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you

1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

That makes Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!
 
Do the writings of the ECFs contain heretical beliefs?
[Just a simple YES or NO.]

The only goal is to establish 1st Century infallibility within the Church so we can accept the artwork as "God-breathed".
Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the
kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit." John 3:5​


Water baptism does not produce any birth.

Yet? There are two births Jesus spoke of.

1.) Physical birth.

2.) Spiritual birth.

That is why Jesus used the term "born again."
When you were about to be born physically?
Your mother broke water!
FIRST BIRTH!

When you were being born spiritually?
The Holy Spirit begot your human spirit.
SECOND BIRTH!

A woman breaks water when she begins the process of giving birth.


grace and peace .............
Rewriting Jn 3:5 born in water born again of the spirit alone!

Really says:

Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

2nd birth or born again is by both water and the spirit, they did not to Jerusalem and preach the fundamentalists sinners prayer, “accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior”! Which ain’t in scripture!

They went to the river! Jn 3:22
River that means WATER and they BAPTIZED!!!! Wow!

2 Corinthians 8:19
And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:

2 pet 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Thanks
 
Christ appointed them not self-appointed Lk 22:29
Not ONCE did I claim they were "self-appointed".
You are defending against claims I did not make.

I accused the Church of Rome of going beyond what Scripture teaches. Nothing more and nothing less.
 
That makes Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!
I agree (and heed their writings).
I disagree with the human interpretation that such "fatherhood" and "divine appointment" could be passed on like an inheritance from one man to another. If the Pope demonstrated Apostolic powers to affirm his authority like those of Peter, then I would be more open to the suggestion that God had appointed him. However, the shadow of the Pope just casts shade on those it falls ... not healing. A man, not an Apostle.
 
Rewriting Jn 3:5 born in water born again of the spirit alone!

Really says:

Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Nicodemus's own response would eliminate your presumptive conjecture.

But, first of all. Lets look at the immediate parallel drawn by the Lord Jesus. John 3:5-6

Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they
are born of water and the Spirit.
Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. "

It goes immediately from "flesh" to "spirit! No H2O to be found!

"Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. "

"born of water" = Flesh gives birth to flesh.

the Spirit = gives birth to spirit.



We all make mistakes.

Its all a required part of maturing in Christ.




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Not ONCE did I claim they were "self-appointed".
You are defending against claims I did not make.

I accused the Church of Rome of going beyond what Scripture teaches. Nothing more and nothing less.
Where does it say scripture is the only source of truth or rule of faith?
 
Where does it say we get to decide?

Christians must be taught or instructed, according to the sense which the perpetual consent of the Catholic Church hath held and expressed!

Lk 1:4
Matt 28:19
Lk 10:16
Jn 20:21
Acts 8:31
Titus 1:9
Colossians 2:7
Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught…

No Christian has the authority to read scripture for yourself and decide your own doctrines or beliefs! “One faith” Eph 4:5 Thee faith once handed to the saints” Jude 1:3
 
I agree (and heed their writings).
I disagree with the human interpretation that such "fatherhood" and "divine appointment" could be passed on like an inheritance from one man to another. If the Pope demonstrated Apostolic powers to affirm his authority like those of Peter, then I would be more open to the suggestion that God had appointed him. However, the shadow of the Pope just casts shade on those it falls ... not healing. A man, not an Apostle.
The apostles and their successors have the same authority as Christ Jn 20:21 if He had authority to appoint successor (the apostles are the successors of Christ) then so do they, and apostle means: “one who is sent”!
 
Where does it say scripture is the only source of truth or rule of faith?
Only source of Divine truth!
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes
from the mouth of God.’” Mt 4:4
Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit,
so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.”
Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other." 1 Cor 4:6​
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Nicodemus's own response would eliminate your presumptive conjecture.

But, first of all. Lets look at the immediate parallel drawn by the Lord Jesus. John 3:5-6

Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they
are born of water and the Spirit.
Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. "

It goes immediately from "flesh" to "spirit! No H2O to be found!

"Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. "

"born of water" = Flesh gives birth to flesh.

the Spirit = gives birth to spirit.



We all make mistakes.

Its all a required part of maturing in Christ.




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Why do you assume water is of the flesh?

Old Testament pre-figures of baptism.

Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Psalm 1:3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Psalm 36:9
For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light.

Song of Solomon 4:15
A fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams from Lebanon.

Isaiah 41:18
I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water.

Isaiah 52:15 So shall he sprinkle many nations;

Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Zech 13:1 “In that day there shall be a fountain opened TO THE HOUSE OF DAVID, and to the INHABITANTS OF JERUSALEM, for sin and for uncleanness."

there are other scripture verses like Mk 16:16 acts 2:38-39 (ez 36:25-27) acts 22:16 1 cor 12:13 gal
3:27 1 pet 3:21

“Baptismal regeneration” is the initiation into the new covenant!

Christian baptism is an outward sign of the inward action of grace, or merits of Christ’s passion blood and death applied to our souls!

We cannot see the inward action of grace purifying the soul, so God gave us the outward “sign” of water washing the body to indicate the inward action of grace and connected the two.

No early church father agrees with you, they all say baptismal regeneration!

Thanks
 
Where does it say scripture is the only source of truth or rule of faith?

Wonder of wonders.....


"And don’t call anyone on earth ‘Father.’ You have one Father. He is in heaven." Mat 23:9​

And..... note!

It does not say...

Do not say that anyone is a father on earth. Father is also a descriptive term!
Jesus said not to use the term "Father" as a title for a man.

Rightly dividing the Word is the issue.
 
More info

The Christian sacrament* of baptismal regeneration is required for the new covenant and salvation!

*this promise acts 2:38-39 is a sacred oath from God ez 36:25-27 and a sacred oath is a sacrament!

Initiation!!!


Faith & Baptism is the initiation of the new and eternal covenant!

You cannot enter on you’re own or by “faith alone”!

You cannot receive Christ or grace by “faith alone”!

“Accept Christ as you’re personal lord and savior” is fundamentalist tradition not found scripture!

Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Baptismal regeneration a new creation in Christ! 2 Cor 5:17

A sacrament is an oath! A sacred promise from God! Ez 36:25-27
Acts 2:38-39 (this promise)

No baptism no grace!

A sacrament is an outward sign for all men including infants And a gift from God to help us see what he does inwardly and invisibly by his grace!

As grace Washes our souls in the merits of Jesus blood from original and personal sin, so the outward action of washing is visible!

without the outward action the inward action cannot take place!

Jn 3:5 Titus 3:5 water and washing
acts 22:16 wash away your sin!

Jn 3:5 Born again BY water and the spirit! Not by “faith alone”!

They did not go to Jerusalem and preach “accept Christ as you’re personal Lord and savior “

They went to the river (water) and they baptized! Jn 3:22

A covenant requires an outward sign of the inward action of grace!

Ez 36:25 I will sprinkle you with clean water and you shall be made white as snow.

Acts 22:16 washing away your sins.

Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 pet 3:21 baptism saves you.

You cannot enter on you’re own or by faith alone!

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,


Baptism!

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 eph 2

Born again! Born from above!

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who I has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by God thru baptism!


Christ instituted the holy church to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation. (repent and believe the gospel) with the institution of the sacraments to convey grace to sanctify souls!
Matt 28:19
 
Effects of faith & baptism!

Ez 36:25-27 washed in baptism, with a new heart and the Spirit
Jn 3:5 born again in baptism
Mk 16:16 faith & baptist
Acts 2:38 repentance & baptism
Acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
Acts 22:16 baptism washes away sin
Rom 6:3 died with Christ
Col 2:12 risen with Christ
1 cor 12:13 baptized into the church
Gal 3:27 by baptism put on Christ
2 Tim 1:10 eph 2:1 and 5 brought to life
2 cor 5:17 new creation
Eph 1:13 eph 4:30 sealed by the Holy Spirit
Eph 4:5 one faith, one baptism
Eph 5:26 faith and baptism
Titus 3:5 baptismal regeneration
1 pet 1:2 washed in Christ’s blood
1 pet 2:9 the kingdom of light
1 pet 3:20-21 baptism saves us!

“Faith alone” accomplishes nothing!
1 cor 13:2 even all faith (alone) without charity avails NOTHING!!!

Faith and baptism!

Scripture says none of the things about “Faith alone”!

Only James 2:24 a man is justified by works and not by “faith alone”

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!




If not faith and baptism then it must be “faith alone”! Not


“Faith alone” Questions

where does ez 36: 25:27 Say “faith alone”?

where does scripture says we have died with Christ by “faith alone”?

Where does it say we are sealed by faith alone?

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

where does scripture say we are members of Christ and his church by “faith alone”?

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

where does scripture says we put on Christ by “faith alone”?

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Where does scripture say our sins are washed away by “faith alone”?

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

where does scripture say we are saved or justified by “faith alone”?

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

The only reference in scripture to “faith alone” is James 2:24 NOT BY “FAITH ALONE”?

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

How can you enter by your own if it must be ministered to you? Baptism is done unto you, “not do it yourself by faith alone”

Ministered by the apostolic church!

2 Corinthians 8:19
And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:

Jn 3:5 born again by faith alone?

Where is “Accept Christ as your personal lord & savior” is found in scripture?

They did not go preaching this line but went immediately to the river and baptized Jn 3:22

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Eph 4:5 one baptism

Why don’t it say one teeny tiny little act of “faith alone”???

When we first believed we are saved?

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

How can salvation be nearer than when we first believed if you’re saved by believing?

1 pet 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Matt 24:13 endures to the end Shall be saved.

How can salvation happen when we first believed if it’s the end?

If salvation is by “faith alone” then faith would be the greatest!
1 cor 13:13 charity is the greatest!

Even all faith much less “faith alone” without charity avails nothing!
1 cor 13:2
 
The apostles and their successors have the same authority as Christ Jn 20:21 if He had authority to appoint successor (the apostles are the successors of Christ) then so do they, and apostle means: “one who is sent”!
[John 20:21 NASB20] So Jesus said to them again, "Peace [be] to you; just as the Father has sent Me, I also send you."

... no "and their successors". Jesus sent them to start a Church and write the new Scripture for the New Covenant. The Apostles (those Jesus actually sent) accomplished the work they were anointed for and sent to accomplish. It is the "posers" that came on their heels that started to mess things up. So I say, let's get back to what Jesus started and the Apostles actually said ... you know ... the church in and of the BIBLE.
 
Effects of faith & baptism!

Ez 36:25-27 washed in baptism, with a new heart and the Spirit
Jn 3:5 born again in baptism
Mk 16:16 faith & baptist
Acts 2:38 repentance & baptism
Acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
Acts 22:16 baptism washes away sin
Rom 6:3 died with Christ
Col 2:12 risen with Christ
1 cor 12:13 baptized into the church
Gal 3:27 by baptism put on Christ
2 Tim 1:10 eph 2:1 and 5 brought to life
2 cor 5:17 new creation
Eph 1:13 eph 4:30 sealed by the Holy Spirit
Eph 4:5 one faith, one baptism
Eph 5:26 faith and baptism
Titus 3:5 baptismal regeneration
1 pet 1:2 washed in Christ’s blood
1 pet 2:9 the kingdom of light
1 pet 3:20-21 baptism saves us!

“Faith alone” accomplishes nothing!
1 cor 13:2 even all faith (alone) without charity avails NOTHING!!!

Faith and baptism!

Scripture says none of the things about “Faith alone”!

Only James 2:24 a man is justified by works and not by “faith alone”

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!




If not faith and baptism then it must be “faith alone”! Not


“Faith alone” Questions

where does ez 36: 25:27 Say “faith alone”?

where does scripture says we have died with Christ by “faith alone”?

Where does it say we are sealed by faith alone?

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

where does scripture say we are members of Christ and his church by “faith alone”?

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

where does scripture says we put on Christ by “faith alone”?

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Where does scripture say our sins are washed away by “faith alone”?

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

where does scripture say we are saved or justified by “faith alone”?

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

The only reference in scripture to “faith alone” is James 2:24 NOT BY “FAITH ALONE”?

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

How can you enter by your own if it must be ministered to you? Baptism is done unto you, “not do it yourself by faith alone”

Ministered by the apostolic church!

2 Corinthians 8:19
And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:

Jn 3:5 born again by faith alone?

Where is “Accept Christ as your personal lord & savior” is found in scripture?

They did not go preaching this line but went immediately to the river and baptized Jn 3:22

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Eph 4:5 one baptism

Why don’t it say one teeny tiny little act of “faith alone”???

When we first believed we are saved?

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

How can salvation be nearer than when we first believed if you’re saved by believing?

1 pet 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Matt 24:13 endures to the end Shall be saved.

How can salvation happen when we first believed if it’s the end?

If salvation is by “faith alone” then faith would be the greatest!
1 cor 13:13 charity is the greatest!

Even all faith much less “faith alone” without charity avails nothing!
1 cor 13:2
I'll just pick one of the slew you presented to show you do not know how to interpret the Word of God.
1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

That one makes your position look good....
That is... Until one understands it in its Biblical context.

"To those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah
while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from
the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection
of Jesus Christ." 1 Peter 320-21​


The flood came.. Did Noah get wet? Did Noah become immersed?
No! It was not a water baptism. Noah remained dry!

That flood water RAISED Noah up and above the destruction taking place below him.
That water saved him from the evils of the world that would have destroyed him.

How does that apply to us?

How does Spirit Baptism now save us?

Like the waters of the flood of Noah raised up Noah to safety?
Spirit baptism now raises us up and above into the heavens where we are now seated with Christ!


But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ
even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.
And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his
kindness to us in Christ Jesus." Eph 2:4-7​


We are seated with Him in Heaven?
For the Spirit has baptized us into the Body of Christ!
That body will be revealed in our resurrection when we discover our body is just like his own glorious body!


For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—
and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. " 1 Cor 12:13​



grace and peace ................
 
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