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Free Will

Revelation 1:17 When I [John] saw Him, I fell at His feet as if dead. But He laid His right hand on me and said, Do not be afraid!
My record is not as good as John's.
.... and always the chance you hear "I never knew you" ...
Every time we see an OT prophet come into the presence of the Lord they fell prostrate with fear and even with angels . When one sees the Lord in His glory the result is fear and trembling . This is what John experienced just the same as we read Isaiah seeing the pre Incarnate Lord in Isaiah 6:1-6 cf John 12:41.
 
Revelation 1:17 When I [John] saw Him, I fell at His feet as if dead. But He laid His right hand on me and said, Do not be afraid!
My record is not as good as John's.
.... and always the chance you hear "I never knew you" ...
That's why my favorite Spurgeon Sermon is, "The Perseverance of Faith". The Prince of Preachers was a great 5-Point Calvinist, and he knew we must Persevere in the Faith...

I can know that He who Promised is Faithful, and will Lose None; but Faith Alone is never to be taken as the Black Sheep of the 5-Solas. As Calvinists, Sola Fide is not a Red-headed Stepchild. If a Christian Antisthenes showed Saint James the Works he was created for, Saint James would have sat Antisthenes at the head of the table...

If Saint James can Know, you can Know...
 
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Deliverance from unbelief !

Unbelief is one of the sins that the elect world is saved from, that's the significance of this portion Jn 16:8-9.

The Holy Spirit convicts the elect unbeliever of sin and gives them faith.

Paul is an example, he was an elect who in unbelief rejected Jesus Christ and persecuted His followers, being blinded by the god of this world, but when it pleased God, He revealed in Him Jesus christ and he became a believer.

1 Tim 1:12-15,16

12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith [to believe]
and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Being saved experimentally is being delivered from unbelief .

16
Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

The Fact is, no one Jesus Christ died to save, can ever die in unbelief, that would defeat one of the main purposes of His death accomplishments.
Show me one verse where the Holy Spirit gives someone faith .
 
I know the feeling; It's a Scary proposition. We LOVE that we're Saved by Grace, but a part of us can be afraid of Judgment Day. We shouldn't Fear...

Moreover, faith lays hold on Christ. It is like the Greek Antisthenes, who went to a philosopher to learn; but he was a dull scholar, and the philosopher bade him go away. The next time the class met, Antisthenes returned, and the philosopher thereupon sent for a man with a club to drive the stupid scholar away; but he was overcome by his scholar; for Antisthenes said, "There is no club that was ever made that is heavy enough to drive me away from you. Here I mean to stay, and learn whatever you can teach me." Oh, may we have a faith like that, a faith that will say to Christ, "I will not go away from thee. I can but perish if I stay with thee, and if I go from thee, I must perish; therefore I will abide with thee evermore, and learn all thou wilt teach me"! Faith is like the Greek in the days of Xerxes, who seized the boat with his right hand. When they chopped off the right hand, he seized it with the left hand; when they cut off the left hand, he laid hold of the boat with his teeth, and did not let go until they severed his head from his body. Soul, if thou canst lay hold of Christ with thy right hand, or with thy left hand, it will be well with thee. Cling to Christ, and say to him with that holy boldness that is the result of faith, "I will not let thee go except thou bless me." Faith, then, holds on to Christ.

Is there any better than Spurgeon!
 
Show me one verse where the Holy Spirit gives someone faith .
When we become born again/ birthed in the Spirit.....that’s when we have the faith to believe...as we have been birthed in the Spirit.....that’s my belief anyway...

Spirit gives birth to spirit......when I was birthed I then knew I was born again and a child of God...he gave me that faith by birthing me into Christ.

How could I receive faith without being birthed is my question ?
 
Show me one verse where the Holy Spirit gives someone faith .
Thought you'd never ask!

Faith is a gift (Php 1:29, Ac 13:48, Ac 18:27, 2 Pe 1:1, Ro 12:3).
 
Then I can’t say who comes second Peter in Acts or Paul in Acts .
Take your pic. St Paul rebuked St Peter, and St Peter said that St Paul's writings are hard to understand...

Rank them as Preaching Apostles; a Category apart from the Category of the Prince of Preachers...
 
Who do you like?

And I can't believe you did that!
I like spurgeon, don’t get me wrong.

But I’m more, Owen, Boston, Edwards, and many more

Whitfield
 
I like spurgeon, don’t get me wrong.

But I’m more, Owen, Boston, Edwards, and many more

Whitfield
What about the Moderns of our day ?
 
What about the Moderns of our day ?
That’s an easy one. The two that stick out right away (among the living) Voddie Baucham and Sinclair Ferguson

Those are the ones that stick out.
Besides my three pastor friends.
 
Revelation 1:17 When I [John] saw Him, I fell at His feet as if dead. But He laid His right hand on me and said, Do not be afraid!
My record is not as good as John's.
.... and always the chance you hear "I never knew you" ...
I think those who hear those words will be the ones who have committed the unpardonable sin.
 
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