Do believers have visions and dreams today?

[QVQ]

I know people who have visions and hear voices. It is schizophrenia.
I have read newspaper accounts of people cutting off their children's heads "God told them to."
I know of "prophets" who had visions from angels or the voice of God or who have been told the "true interpretation" of the Bible. or have been given new revelations. Some of these "visionaries" have established sects and entirely new religions, although almost all are based on novel interpretations of the Gospels .

I am very wary of my own dreams and visions.

I certainly do not believe someone else's visions, dreams, interpretation, no matter how many angels, golden tablets, true believers or book sales may have been involved or resulted from the vision, dream, interpretation.

 

[TB2]

The Spirit is actively at work today just as in the first century, in all manner of ways, including prophetic dreams and visions

 

[GeneZ]

I know people who have visions and hear voices. It is schizophrenia.
I have read newspaper accounts of people cutting off their children's heads "God told them to."
I know of "prophets" who had visions from angels or the voice of God or who have been told the "true interpretation" of the Bible. or have been given new revelations. Some of these "visionaries" have established sects and entirely new religions, although almost all are based on novel interpretations of the Gospels .

I am very wary of my own dreams and visions.

I certainly do not believe someone else's visions, dreams, interpretation, no matter how many angels, golden tablets, true believers or book sales may have been involved or resulted from the vision, dream, interpretation.

Some dreams are to show you what you could have, but are not to accept them...

That is done so you do not get distracted away from growing in grace and knowledge when an opportunity comes knocking on your door
as a cosmic solution to a present need.

God can preemptively warn in dreams of Satan's substitutions for what God wants us to suffer through, as God works in during our suffering
his transforming solution for the solving the need to suffer.... AKA... "overcoming the world."

grace and peace!

 

[GeneZ]

When I was 14, I got nagged into going to church. After the service, a church worker read John 3:16 to me. As he read it, I had a vision. In front of me, I saw a set of curtains. A hand holding a sword thrust through the curtains and sunk the sword deep into my belly. I instantly knew what I'd been told was true. The guy then led me in the sinner's prayer.
I didn't pick God and I couldn't stop believing in Him if I tried. Which at one point in my life, I did. My earliest memory was like my avatar picture. I recall thinking about it on my second birthday. I eventually concluded that it was from the instant God created me. The unapproachable light that He dwells in. The Lord says to Jeremiah the prophet that He knew him before he was in his mother's womb.
I take this to mean that life begins before we are in the womb. This would mean that all abortions are murder.

That is saying the life we are is not that body in the womb. That life we have is within our soul.

On the issue of abortion, one must determine with Scripture when God imputes our soul to that body.

Our life in God's mind was before we had a body, and is still our life after our soul leaves that body.

The issue of abortion can only be settled by knowing when God places our soul into our body.
Much sloppy thinking surrounds this highly emotionally charged issue that makes reasoning with some impossible.

Question: Would it have been murder if the Devil drove a stake through Adam's body before the Lord breathed the breath of lives
into his nostrils? That in a nutshell, is the crux of finally resolving the abortion debate.

grace and peace ..........................

 

[QVQ]

Here is a question:
In the OT, Angels played many roles, including in prophetic dreams. However, in the Old Testament, whenever God was giving the law or pronouncing judgement, He did it Himself.
In the New Testament, it is Christ himself, or the Holy Spirit who is also God, in the substance and the same role as guide, lawgiver and judge.
Am I correct scripturally?

Now, the Devil is an angel. The Devil is beautiful. When angels appear to men in visions and dreams, revealing law, giving commands or golden tablets or new testaments, that is not Scriptural, as the angels do not do that in the OT or NT.

Does God send angels to reveal His Word or does He always reveal His command, judgements and guides Himself? Paul stated it was the Holy Spirit who revealed to him what to speak.

Is my understanding correct according to all the Scripture?

 

[GeneZ]

Here is a question:
In the OT, Angels played many roles, including in prophetic dreams. However, in the Old Testament, whenever God was giving the law or pronouncing judgement, He did it Himself.
In the New Testament, it is Christ himself, or the Holy Spirit who is also God, in the substance and the same role as guide, lawgiver and judge.
Am I correct scripturally?

Now, the Devil is an angel. The Devil is beautiful. When angels appear to men in visions and dreams, revealing law, giving commands or golden tablets or new testaments, that is not Scriptural, as the angels do not do that in the OT or NT.

Does God send angels to reveal His Word or does He always reveal His command, judgements and guides Himself? Paul stated it was the Holy Spirit who revealed to him what to speak.

Is my understanding correct according to all the Scripture?

To the Church..................

Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people
have entertained angels without knowing it." Hebrews 13:2

 

[makesends]

The Spirit is actively at work today just as in the first century, in all manner of ways, including prophetic dreams and visions

1. What is the function of these modern day "prophetic dreams and visions"?
2. Are these "prophetic dreams and visions" authoritative?
3. Are they authoritative on a level with Scripture?
4. Does anyone write new Scripture? Does God?

 

[Carbon]

1. What is the function of these modern day "prophetic dreams and visions"?

Good question.

2. Are these "prophetic dreams and visions" authoritative?

Another good question.

3. Are they authoritative on a level with Scripture?

And another.

4. Does anyone write new Scripture?

N. T. Wright?

Does God?

Nope, it's done. We have all we need.

 

[GeneZ]

The Spirit is actively at work today just as in the first century, in all manner of ways, including prophetic dreams and visions

But not with the temporary gifts that were designed to hold the fort until the Word of God could be completed in written form.

If we had prophets today we would need new translations adding in their words.

 

[makesends]

N. T. Wright?

That would be wrong, Wright?

 

[Carbon]

That would be wrong, Wright?

Indeed.

 

[GeneZ]

1. What is the function of these modern day "prophetic dreams and visions"?

On the most basic level to make the believer aware that the supernatural is reality.

It shakes up our old world view of living... and after the rubble and dust settles, seeing sunshine where you never saw it before.

 

[TB2]

But not with the temporary gifts that were designed to hold the fort until the Word of God could be completed in written form.

If we had prophets today we would need new translations adding in their words.

There is no Scriptural basis for "temporary gifts" until the Bible appears

 

[TB2]

N. T. Wright?

Really unfair and historically inaccurate not just to Wright but many many NT scholars

 

[Carbon]

Really unfair and historically inaccurate not just to Wright but many many NT scholars

I'm not entitled to my opinion? You seem to be expressing yours. And think about how many reformers for one that you are being unjust about.

I think you should spend more time on what the man teaches, the details.

 

[GeneZ]

There is no Scriptural basis for "temporary gifts" until the Bible appears

Until its completed. Not until it appears. The complete cannon of Scripture has been so since around 90 AD.

Are sure you are associated with Dallas Theological Seminary?
Or, has it been changed that much over the years?

Why do you keep asking questions that a first year Bible student would ask?
Are you asking for their benefit?

I hope so.

 

[TB2]

Until its completed. Not until it appears. The complete cannon of Scripture has been so since around 90 AD.

Are sure you are associated with Dallas Theological Seminary?
Or, has it been changed that much over the years?

Why do you keep asking questions that a first year Bible student would ask?
Are you asking for their benefit?

I hope so.

Where is your Scriptural support to show that there are temporary gifts that ceased with the closed canon?

 

[GeneZ]

Where is your Scriptural support to show that there are temporary gifts that ceased with the closed canon?

Where is your support?

You should not be asking me. You don't know?

You speak in tongues? You prophesy?

 

[TB2]

Where is your support?

You should not be asking me. You don't know?

You speak in tongues? You prophesy?

You made the claim that some of the gifts are temporary and ceased with the closed cannon. I'm asking you to back up that claim from Scripture

 

[makesends]

On the most basic level to make the believer aware that the supernatural is reality.

It shakes up our old world view of living... and after the rubble and dust settles, seeing sunshine where you never saw it before.

Poetic, at least...