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Baptism of the holy spirit born again and... born again again?

The baptism of the holy spirit and water baptism as well as the whole concept of his spirit is not that complicatedwe are talking about the same thing just in different ways

I was when I was saved baptized in his fire anyone who says only the apostles recieve it or that it was only for the church well they are missing out

The life that was surging through me how it felt as if a blazing fire was inside me and flowing around me I can testify that the baptism of fire and the holy spirit is real I was baptized in water but only after the baptism of the holy spirit.

This second surge I recieved regardless of what it is called I can tell you that I am being taken into a place of wonder with him beyond what we as Christians know of him and his kingdom.

I can see the treasures in the kingdom only a glimpse only through a veil but I become so excited to go and have the kingdom and all it's treeasures and it isn't gold or honor it isn't any kind of reward it is the rea;ity of him everything that we wanting everything he wants to bless us with it's all there we just have to go for the kingdom and bring it here.


And before anyone says otherwise no the kingdom is not here the treasures of the kingdom shine brilliantly through those who have it it will be a presence that people will notice when ypou walk in they will see and sense this light and life in you as if you have an aura of it

We all are supposed to be like this as we are to riegn in this kingdom but look at the state of the world look at the state of the church do you see this? do you see the kingdom? can ypou describe what trreasures I am talking about? the holy spirit the baptism of fire as powerful as it is it's only a grain of rice compared to the treasures of the kingdom he goes way way deeper


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The baptism of the holy spirit and water baptism as well as the whole concept of his spirit is not that complicatedwe are talking about the same thing just in different ways

I was when I was saved baptized in his fire anyone who says only the apostles recieve it or that it was only for the church well they are missing out

The life that was surging through me how it felt as if a blazing fire was inside me and flowing around me I can testify that the baptism of fire and the holy spirit is real I was baptized in water but only after the baptism of the holy spirit.

This second surge I recieved regardless of what it is called I can tell you that I am being taken into a place of wonder with him beyond what we as Christians know of him and his kingdom.

I can see the treasures in the kingdom only a glimpse only through a veil but I become so excited to go and have the kingdom and all it's treeasures and it isn't gold or honor it isn't any kind of reward it is the rea;ity of him everything that we wanting everything he wants to bless us with it's all there we just have to go for the kingdom and bring it here.


And before anyone says otherwise no the kingdom is not here the treasures of the kingdom shine brilliantly through those who have it it will be a presence that people will notice when ypou walk in they will see and sense this light and life in you as if you have an aura of it

We all are supposed to be like this as we are to riegn in this kingdom but look at the state of the world look at the state of the church do you see this? do you see the kingdom? can ypou describe what trreasures I am talking about? the holy spirit the baptism of fire as powerful as it is it's only a grain of rice compared to the treasures of the kingdom he goes way way deeper
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In Kundalini, an eastern mysticism, they can experience joy, peace, love, fire, power, electricity, and sometimes scary events. This article from a kundalini site explains the feeling of fire in their practice.

WHAT DOES TWIN FLAME KUNDALINI FIRE FEEL LIKE?

Below is a Christian minister overseas that has done research in eastern religions for why he shows concern for the body of Christ not to believe every spirit.


Any spirit that takes your eyes off of Christ, the Son of God, is not the real indwelling holy Ghost or that Spirit of Christ.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

So do not believe that spirit visiting you is Jesus Christ. It is just seducing you to seek that spirit again in enjoying that company rather than go to Jesus in prayer at that throne of grace, knowing He is in you & is with you always.

The world can receives spirits by seeing it happen or feeling it happen like mediums in consulting ghosts. That is not really how one is born again of the Spirit otherwise Jesus would say you can know when you are born again of the Spirit or when someone else is by seeing it happen by a sign.

Jesus did warn against seeking to receive Him by a sign in order to believe in Him.

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

When you are around wayward believers that places the emphasis on the baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues as those in Azusa Street Revival has done, it does not matter if you were not seeking it, you are in that place where the supernatural can occur.

The History of Tongues: Pagan Practices

"Ecstatic language was a common form of worship in pagan temples.i It was well established in Ancient Byblos (1100 BC). Plato (429-347 BC) mentions it as a phenomenon in his time. He tells us that a person under divine possession received utterances and visions that the receiver did not understand.

These utterances were sometimes accompanied by physical healing of people present. Virgil (70-19 BC) tells us that the Sibylline priestess, when in prayer, united her spirit with the god Apollo and spoke in strange tongues.ii" ~~~ end of quote
So healing can occur as well as visions or revelations as diviners & psychics can do this also.


Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

So think about what it is you are testifying towards; sowing doubts to other believers that maybe they do not have the Holy Ghost then? And yet they are believers as faith is a fruit of the Spirit and so having believed at the hearing of the gospel is them having been saved and thus born again of the Spirit so they need not doubt at all.

Indeed, if you had believed before going up there, you were saved and that other stuff is just tricking you to serve that glory of signs in receiving rather then the Good News of Jesus Christ as always Spirit-filled as a testimony from God that He is in you & is with you always as you are His.

Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith..... 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

1 Corinthians 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

We are not missing anything that we need to seek after for we are complete in Christ to not chase after the rudiment of the world in receiving spirits.

Colossians 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Your testimony of believing one can be born again and again and again is akin to the foolish virgins out to the market seeking to be filled for why they were not ready to go when the Bridegroom had come, even though the foolish were of the ten virgins that are the Kingdom of Heaven.

Matthew 25:1-13 KJV So please go before that throne of grace and ask Jesus Christ for help to expose this work as darkness & rest in Him as always Spirit-filled as a testimony from God that He has saved you since at the calling of the gospel when you had first believed.

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

This is why saved believers are hungering for more of God to be filled again and again and again because they are not really coming to Jesus Christ but are committing spiritual adultery.

John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

May Jesus help you to see this truth so you can lean on Him as always Spirit-filled as saved to hunger nor thirst any more to be filled again.
 
In Kundalini, an eastern mysticism, they can experience joy, peace, love, fire, power, electricity, and sometimes scary events. This article from a kundalini site explains the feeling of fire in their practice.

WHAT DOES TWIN FLAME KUNDALINI FIRE FEEL LIKE?

Below is a Christian minister overseas that has done research in eastern religions for why he shows concern for the body of Christ not to believe every spirit.


Any spirit that takes your eyes off of Christ, the Son of God, is not the real indwelling holy Ghost or that Spirit of Christ.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

So do not believe that spirit visiting you is Jesus Christ. It is just seducing you to seek that spirit again in enjoying that company rather than go to Jesus in prayer at that throne of grace, knowing He is in you & is with you always.

The world can receives spirits by seeing it happen or feeling it happen like mediums in consulting ghosts. That is not really how one is born again of the Spirit otherwise Jesus would say you can know when you are born again of the Spirit or when someone else is by seeing it happen by a sign.

Jesus did warn against seeking to receive Him by a sign in order to believe in Him.

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

When you are around wayward believers that places the emphasis on the baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues as those in Azusa Street Revival has done, it does not matter if you were not seeking it, you are in that place where the supernatural can occur.

The History of Tongues: Pagan Practices

"Ecstatic language was a common form of worship in pagan temples.i It was well established in Ancient Byblos (1100 BC). Plato (429-347 BC) mentions it as a phenomenon in his time. He tells us that a person under divine possession received utterances and visions that the receiver did not understand.

These utterances were sometimes accompanied by physical healing of people present. Virgil (70-19 BC) tells us that the Sibylline priestess, when in prayer, united her spirit with the god Apollo and spoke in strange tongues.ii" ~~~ end of quote
So healing can occur as well as visions or revelations as diviners & psychics can do this also.


Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

So think about what it is you are testifying towards; sowing doubts to other believers that maybe they do not have the Holy Ghost then? And yet they are believers as faith is a fruit of the Spirit and so having believed at the hearing of the gospel is them having been saved and thus born again of the Spirit so they need not doubt at all.

Indeed, if you had believed before going up there, you were saved and that other stuff is just tricking you to serve that glory of signs in receiving rather then the Good News of Jesus Christ as always Spirit-filled as a testimony from God that He is in you & is with you always as you are His.

Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith..... 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

1 Corinthians 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

We are not missing anything that we need to seek after for we are complete in Christ to not chase after the rudiment of the world in receiving spirits.

Colossians 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Your testimony of believing one can be born again and again and again is akin to the foolish virgins out to the market seeking to be filled for why they were not ready to go when the Bridegroom had come, even though the foolish were of the ten virgins that are the Kingdom of Heaven.

Matthew 25:1-13 KJV So please go before that throne of grace and ask Jesus Christ for help to expose this work as darkness & rest in Him as always Spirit-filled as a testimony from God that He has saved you since at the calling of the gospel when you had first believed.

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

This is why saved believers are hungering for more of God to be filled again and again and again because they are not really coming to Jesus Christ but are committing spiritual adultery.

John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

May Jesus help you to see this truth so you can lean on Him as always Spirit-filled as saved to hunger nor thirst any more to be filled again.
The devil can only copy the real thing the mere fact your first instinct is to assume what you have shows where you stand.

Your not in tune with the spirits voice the things I am speaking of are from him I am giving you what he is giving me the spirit speaks to the spirit and you can recieve it or not but there isn't going to be a lot of time to get on board this isn't a bus you want to miss.


A spiritual wind is on the horizon and he is preparing for himself a new generation of believers those who will walk in him and his spirit unlike anything before not just that either he is up to something huge he is working behind the scenes and when he makes his move it is going to be massive it is going to be amazing like ther biggest fireworks you ever saw.


Believe me you will see what I am talking about in due time be prepared to know why he is God
 
The baptism of the holy spirit and water baptism as well as the whole concept of his spirit is not that complicatedwe are talking about the same thing just in different ways

I was when I was saved baptized in his fire anyone who says only the apostles recieve it or that it was only for the church well they are missing out

The life that was surging through me how it felt as if a blazing fire was inside me and flowing around me I can testify that the baptism of fire and the holy spirit is real I was baptized in water but only after the baptism of the holy spirit.

This second surge I recieved regardless of what it is called I can tell you that I am being taken into a place of wonder with him beyond what we as Christians know of him and his kingdom.

I can see the treasures in the kingdom only a glimpse only through a veil but I become so excited to go and have the kingdom and all it's treeasures and it isn't gold or honor it isn't any kind of reward it is the rea;ity of him everything that we wanting everything he wants to bless us with it's all there we just have to go for the kingdom and bring it here.


And before anyone says otherwise no the kingdom is not here the treasures of the kingdom shine brilliantly through those who have it it will be a presence that people will notice when ypou walk in they will see and sense this light and life in you as if you have an aura of it

We all are supposed to be like this as we are to riegn in this kingdom but look at the state of the world look at the state of the church do you see this? do you see the kingdom? can ypou describe what trreasures I am talking about? the holy spirit the baptism of fire as powerful as it is it's only a grain of rice compared to the treasures of the kingdom he goes way way deeper


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What a Glorifying testimony to God....completely understand what is being said here!.....Praise God!..🙏💗
 
The devil can only copy the real thing the mere fact your first instinct is to assume what you have shows where you stand.

Your not in tune with the spirits voice the things I am speaking of are from him I am giving you what he is giving me the spirit speaks to the spirit and you can recieve it or not but there isn't going to be a lot of time to get on board this isn't a bus you want to miss.

A spiritual wind is on the horizon and he is preparing for himself a new generation of believers those who will walk in him and his spirit unlike anything before not just that either he is up to something huge he is working behind the scenes and when he makes his move it is going to be massive it is going to be amazing like ther biggest fireworks you ever saw.

Believe me you will see what I am talking about in due time be prepared to know why he is God
If you look for outward manifestation of the "Holy Spirit" you will fall for anything.

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring. 27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory. 28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

That is why there is only one drink of the One spirit at salvation for all of us to be speaking the same thing & holding to that same judgment.

1 Corinthians 12;13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

 
If you look for outward manifestation of the "Holy Spirit" you will fall for anything.

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring. 27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory. 28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

That is why there is only one drink of the One spirit at salvation for all of us to be speaking the same thing & holding to that same judgment.

1 Corinthians 12;13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

I didn't look for it I received there is a difference. Don't forget that he is an actual person he is not a mere spirit in us he is alive and more powerful and real than anything here on earth so you really think it so odd that he would manifest physically? Are we not to be filled with his spirit to the brim? are we are not to be walking in his spirit and kingdom?

You can post scripture and videos anyone can do that they are just words to people but the spoken word of God however that is a different story the spoken word comes from him from inside us it can do what the written word can't.

The spirit is not limited by man and you can't keep him inside you he is there not just for us but fgor the world so if he is not manifesting to you and if you don't understand what residing in the kingdom actually means then that is why I am here I want to grow together as believers I want to give eveything he has given and shown and taught me I can bring it to you if you only let me.

Regardless of your thoughts on the matter you felt something when you read it even if it was only barely noticable pay attention to that seed
 
You can post scripture and videos anyone can do that they are just words to people but the spoken word of God however that is a different story the spoken word comes from him from inside us it can do what the written word can't.

The spirit is not limited by man and you can't keep him inside you
Jesus said this for why the Holy Spirit is kept in a box as our physical bodies are the temples of the Holy Spirit.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.... 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
he is there not just for us but fgor the world so if he is not manifesting to you and if you don't understand what residing in the kingdom actually means then that is why I am here I want to grow together as believers I want to give eveything he has given and shown and taught me I can bring it to you if you only let me.
No way since scripture and the indwelling Holy Ghost is still pointing me as the bride to go to the Bridegroom in living that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ. What does the spirit of the antichrist does but to seduce in having you commit spiritual adultery by going after them.
Regardless of your thoughts on the matter you felt something when you read it even if it was only barely noticable pay attention to that seed
I do not know what you are talking about, but whether you recognize it or not, you are suffering a thief to keep on breaking through stealing your focus and your attention and your divine relationship with God the Father thru His Son for chasing after other gods for a sign hence what the spirit of the antichrist does.
 
Jesus said this for why the Holy Spirit is kept in a box as our physical bodies are the temples of the Holy Spirit.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.... 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

No way since scripture and the indwelling Holy Ghost is still pointing me as the bride to go to the Bridegroom in living that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ. What does the spirit of the antichrist does but to seduce in having you commit spiritual adultery by going after them.

I do not know what you are talking about, but whether you recognize it or not, you are suffering a thief to keep on breaking through stealing your focus and your attention and your divine relationship with God the Father thru His Son for chasing after other gods for a sign hence what the spirit of the antichrist does.
Don't worry I know you don't understand yet your going to love what he is going to do and you are going to be changed the harvest is coming fast
 
Don't worry I know you don't understand yet your going to love what he is going to do and you are going to be changed the harvest is coming fast
What you are actually promoting is the falling away from the faith which is that prophesied apostasy that is happening in these latter days now.

2 Thessalonians 2:1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, ....

That iniquity was at work even in Paul's days.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

So Paul reminded every one of the tradition taught of us to expose what that lie is as preaching anything other than that below.

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

That is the only time a saved believer will receive the sanctification of the Holy spirit & the belief of the truth at the calling of the gospel. Any other time is preaching another gospel and therefore those who believe that lie, God will permit that strong delusion to occur.

Now if you are worried about 2 Thessalonians 2:12, you can always repent and stop promoting something else in His name which is not the gospel of Jesus Christ.

As it is, you are at risk of being excommunicated from the Marriage Supper to be held in heaven at the pre great tribulation rapture event.

Paul goes on to address those that were falling away from the faith in his days by citing the commandment to withdraw from them and yet not to treat them as the enemy, bit admonish them as brothers for they still are saved even though they will get left behind... unless hey repent before the Bridegroom comes.

2 Thessalonians 3:1Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you: 2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. 3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. 4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you. 5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ. 6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. 7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;

14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
 
You know I have been baptized twice in my life by water in the name of Jesus but I want to get baptized one more time except this time Jesus himself is doing it.
 
I actually have a question about something that happened to me near the beginning of this year. Is it possible to be reborn a second time? some call it an anointing but the anointing God showed me is not here yet but this wasan event that tchanged me I have always been very close with God even from the start he and I were always very intimate and personal but when this changed happened to me it is like sudden;ly basically everything he has been teaching me and everything he instilled in me was enhanced.
I recall about 30 years ago, at a FGBMFI DInner meeting (which in Central Western Ohio was about 1/2 Charismatic Roman Catholic), a Catholic man stood up, and made the statement:

"The Baptism in the Holy Spirit has made REAL TO ME, that which began with my Baptism, and my confirmation" which we all understood (as non-Catholics) as him saying: "I got saved". many times in those days, getting "Born again", and being "Baptized in the Holy Spirit" pretty much happened together. In my case, I was Born again in '63, and "baptized in the Holy Spirit" in '73.

Bottom line - Being "Born again" is THE HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLING a person, cleansing. and changing them, and Acts 2:4 is THE HOLY SPIRIT ON a person giving them POWER.
 
I recall about 30 years ago, at a FGBMFI DInner meeting (which in Central Western Ohio was about 1/2 Charismatic Roman Catholic), a Catholic man stood up, and made the statement:

"The Baptism in the Holy Spirit has made REAL TO ME, that which began with my Baptism, and my confirmation" which we all understood (as non-Catholics) as him saying: "I got saved". many times in those days, getting "Born again", and being "Baptized in the Holy Spirit" pretty much happened together. In my case, I was Born again in '63, and "baptized in the Holy Spirit" in '73.

Bottom line - Being "Born again" is THE HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLING a person, cleansing. and changing them, and Acts 2:4 is THE HOLY SPIRIT ON a person giving them POWER.
I think you know exactly the journey I am on with him you have been there.
 
I recall about 30 years ago, at a FGBMFI DInner meeting (which in Central Western Ohio was about 1/2 Charismatic Roman Catholic), a Catholic man stood up, and made the statement:

"The Baptism in the Holy Spirit has made REAL TO ME, that which began with my Baptism, and my confirmation" which we all understood (as non-Catholics) as him saying: "I got saved". many times in those days, getting "Born again", and being "Baptized in the Holy Spirit" pretty much happened together. In my case, I was Born again in '63, and "baptized in the Holy Spirit" in '73.

Bottom line - Being "Born again" is THE HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLING a person, cleansing. and changing them, and Acts 2:4 is THE HOLY SPIRIT ON a person giving them POWER.
Baptism in the Holy Spirit, into the body of Christ, happens when God saves you. Any subsequent experience in the Holy Spirit should not be called the baptism in the Holy Spirit.
 
Baptism in the Holy Spirit, into the body of Christ, happens when God saves you. Any subsequent experience in the Holy Spirit should not be called the baptism in the Holy Spirit.
I don't know what to call it I just know it happened to me because I wanted the truth and only the truth I surrendered utterly to him in my room on my knees as if I was before his throne itself and I mean real surrender to him like he is not just your friend and savior he is your Lord you make him your Lord in that moment

There is a reverence to this and a surrender that is like it is more than surrender I refused to leave his feet until he said yes.

This is when it happened and everything with him completely changed from there.
 
I don't know what to call it I just know it happened to me because I wanted the truth and only the truth I surrendered utterly to him in my room on my knees as if I was before his throne itself and I mean real surrender to him like he is not just your friend and savior he is your Lord you make him your Lord in that moment

There is a reverence to this and a surrender that is like it is more than surrender I refused to leave his feet until he said yes.

This is when it happened and everything with him completely changed from there.
Maybe that's when you were saved.
 
Maybe that's when you were saved.
No I have been saved since 2012 I know the life that makes you jump out of bed and dance for him how it feels like there is fire in you and around you his power is not even describable but it was like electricity in me.

This however was that on steroids.
 
No I have been saved since 2012 I know the life that makes you jump out of bed and dance for him how it feels like there is fire in you and around you his power is not even describable but it was like electricity in me.

This however was that on steroids.
Then it was a wonderful blessing from God. We don't need to give everything a special label.
 
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