Trinity: The Divinity of Jesus

[Mr GLee]

The faith that God gives us is powerful, but to equate them makes "faith" vague. The equation says nothing about what faith is.

Mathematically, it claims that Power = Faith, and that isn't quite accurate.

Faith as a working Plan. "Let there be" the labor of love and "it was the good proving power"

The just law "Let there be" working with the justifier and "it was good "

Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

The word faith used in different ways always represent power. Whether his faithfulness that worked in David or in any saint it always equals power unless stated no faith ..(once)

Many confuse faith a work from doubt the power that can take away faith

Doubt not the opposite of faith . Un-belief no faith is ,

The accuser of the brethren would make them both the same (no vision) taking away the powerful understanding of faith, imputed righteousness.

Every time the word faith is used it could be highlighted to show Christ working in the hearts of all men

 

[Viking123]

Nonsense.

Luke 12:32--Luke 22:29-30= 2 instances.

 

[Viking123]

Almost all religions have Jesus, they just don't know who he is. But they like his mortality and his teachings and applaud him for that. Even Islam does. One religion says Jesus is God and that is Christianity. If a religion denies the deity of Christ it is not the Christian religion. Christian ethics alone do not make a religion Christian.

I share Jesus' teachings with all,(( they refuse to believe him= The ones using the altered translations. His teachings are the same in every translation-except-Matt 5:5-Earth or Land in some.

 

[Viking123]

Faith the power of God that gives us his understanding as it is written

Jesus the Son of man as the first of many born again sons of God. He is not ashamed to call us brother and sisters .

We call no man on earth Holy Father One is our Abba Father in heaven

Power is reckoned from the resurrection not the birth of a dying body .

Little flock, little faith..

Why do you think Christ calls us ye children of little faith.

How much powerful faith do we need to please Him?

It takes living now to do his Fathers will over self-Matt 7:21--That will is-Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God.= OT-NT learned and applied.-FEW bother.

 

[Viking123]

The Holy Spirit is sometimes called "the spirit of Christ" in the bible, so I don't think saying that it was the power of the Holy Spirit takes away from the power or deity of Christ.

Actually God9 Jehovah) did all the powerful works through Jesus via holy spirit( Acts 2:22)

 

[David Lamb]

Actually God9 Jehovah) did all the powerful works through Jesus via holy spirit( Acts 2:22)

Acts 2:22 says:

“"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know — ” (Ac 2:22 NKJV)

No mention of the Hp;y Spirit.

 

[Mr GLee]

Acts 2:22 says:

“"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know — ” (Ac 2:22 NKJV)

No mention of the Hp;y Spirit.

The Holy Spirit inspired the words attested by God

 

[David Lamb]

The Holy Spirit inspired the words attested by God

True, but that's not what you said. You said that God did all the powerful works through Jesus via the Holy Spirit. Don't you believe that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully Man?

 

[Mr GLee]

True, but that's not what you said. You said that God did all the powerful works through Jesus via the Holy Spirit. Don't you believe that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully Man?

Hi Thanks

The use of the word Jesus savior .used Two ways, Satan as usual would make it all one in the same in order to remove the unseen spiritual understanding. (Faith)

"Christ" meaning the saving anointing teacher master as Lord not seen.. . saves us from false apostles bringing false prophecy oral traditions of dying mankind

Jesus the Son of man displaying the power of the teaching master. Christ our Father. two Jesus' . . one Christ , teaching master other the student

God is fully God. who does not return to dust

Dying mankind is fully man who does return to dust

I think Christ the Holy Father our husband as a work of his faith or called labor of love. . . worked in the Son of man Jesus outwardly displaying the power of the Holy Father to all the nations of the world .

The dynamic dual. The Father and Son team ...

LOL Dads set the example teach them how to work as one family. Can never find them when needed.

Two or three that gather together under the hearing of the gospel, sola scriptura. knowing he is there teaching; they have his eternal confidence. if he began the good teaching work he will continue until we take out last breath (Philippian 1:6)

Two, the one witness that shows one God not seen has spoken . . . . . .And "it was God alone good".

The law of faith or labor of love, the power of believing and doing . . not of our own dying mankind. ( faithless powerless.) Those without God in this present world

 

[Viking123]

Acts 2:22 says:

“"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know — ” (Ac 2:22 NKJV)

No mention of the Hp;y Spirit.

It doesn't have to be mentioned. Its how God accomplishes his will- see-Gen 1:2--God used that active force( holy spirit) to write his bible as well but that is not mentioned.

 

[Carbon]

It doesn't have to be mentioned. Its how God accomplishes his will- see-Gen 1:2--God used that active force( holy spirit) to write his bible as well but that is not mentioned.

The Holy Spirit is a Person

 

[Viking123]

The Holy Spirit is a Person

Whats its name since all living beings have personal names as the Father and son do.

 

[David Lamb]

Hi Thanks

The use of the word Jesus savior .used Two ways, Satan as usual would make it all one in the same in order to remove the unseen spiritual understanding. (Faith)

"Christ" meaning the saving anointing teacher master as Lord not seen.. . saves us from false apostles bringing false prophecy oral traditions of dying mankind

Jesus the Son of man displaying the power of the teaching master. Christ our Father. two Jesus' . . one Christ , teaching master other the student

God is fully God. who does not return to dust

Dying mankind is fully man who does return to dust

I think Christ the Holy Father our husband as a work of his faith or called labor of love. . . worked in the Son of man Jesus outwardly displaying the power of the Holy Father to all the nations of the world .

The dynamic dual. The Father and Son team ...

LOL Dads set the example teach them how to work as one family. Can never find them when needed.

Two or three that gather together under the hearing of the gospel, sola scriptura. knowing he is there teaching; they have his eternal confidence. if he began the good teaching work he will continue until we take out last breath (Philippian 1:6)

Two, the one witness that shows one God not seen has spoken . . . . . .And "it was God alone good".

The law of faith or labor of love, the power of believing and doing . . not of our own dying mankind. ( faithless powerless.) Those without God in this present world

You keep saying that Jesus and Christ are separate. Yet the apostles taught:

“but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.” (Joh 20:31 NKJV)

“But Saul increased all the more in strength, and confounded the Jews who dwelt in Damascus, proving that this Jesus is the Christ.” (Ac 9:22 NKJV)

“When Silas and Timothy had come from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ.” (Ac 18:5 NKJV)

“for he vigorously refuted the Jews publicly, showing from the Scriptures that Jesus is the Christ.” (Ac 18:28 NKJV)

“Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.” (1Jo 2:22 NKJV)

“Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him.” (1Jo 5:1 NKJV)

This Jesus Christ did not return to the dust - He rose bodily from the dead.

 

[Mr GLee]

You keep saying that Jesus and Christ are separate. Yet the apostles taught:

“but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.” (Joh 20:31 NKJV)

“But Saul increased all the more in strength, and confounded the Jews who dwelt in Damascus, proving that this Jesus is the Christ.” (Ac 9:22 NKJV)

“When Silas and Timothy had come from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ.” (Ac 18:5 NKJV)

“for he vigorously refuted the Jews publicly, showing from the Scriptures that Jesus is the Christ.” (Ac 18:28 NKJV)

“Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.” (1Jo 2:22 NKJV)

“Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him.” (1Jo 5:1 NKJV)

This Jesus Christ did not return to the dust - He rose bodily from the dead.

They are two different words. Satan as usual would make it all one in the same (God man) he is not subject has no spiritual gospel understnding. he is not subject to the power of the word (sola scriptura). But is behind the lying wondering, wondering, wondering ,marveling power as the father of lies. Giving the illusion God is still bring new prophecy. destroying the final warning not to add or subtract from sola scriptura.

He deceives the whole world in that way of false prophecy Lying wonders.

(1) Jesus' savior, just like Joshuah also meaning savior with no extra meaning added.

(2) Christ our husband the anointing teaching. The Holy Spirit's power that worked in Jesus the Son of man dying mankind .

Not as I will but you Father the one with power to raise those dead in their trespass and sin without hope and without God in this present age.

Christ the father working in the Son of man Jesus who when born again of the Father by the power of the resurrection (not earthly birth).Jesus then became the first born again of all sons of God (Christians)

On one occasion when a confused a person bowed down to the dying flesh of Jesus the Son of man .And called him the one good teaching master as Lord.

Jesus the Son of man would never blaspheme the Holy name of the Holy Father

Mark 10:17-18And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?;And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

God is not a man. The "Let there be" creation of the Father

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. (Christian's sons of God)

If you are led by the Spirit of Christ than Jesus is not ashamed to call you brother, sister, mother . The new family of God. Call no man on earth Holy Father.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

 

[David Lamb]

They are two different words. Satan as usual would make it all one in the same (God man) he is not subject has no spiritual gospel understnding. he is not subject to the power of the word (sola scriptura). But is behind the lying wondering, wondering, wondering ,marveling power as the father of lies. Giving the illusion God is still bring new prophecy. destroying the final warning not to add or subtract from sola scriptura.

He deceives the whole world in that way of false prophecy Lying wonders.

(1) Jesus' savior, just like Joshuah also meaning savior with no extra meaning added.

(2) Christ our husband the anointing teaching. The Holy Spirit's power that worked in Jesus the Son of man dying mankind .

Not as I will but you Father the one with power to raise those dead in their trespass and sin without hope and without God in this present age.

Christ the father working in the Son of man Jesus who when born again of the Father by the power of the resurrection (not earthly birth).Jesus then became the first born again of all sons of God (Christians)

On one occasion when a confused a person bowed down to the dying flesh of Jesus the Son of man .And called him the one good teaching master as Lord.

Jesus the Son of man would never blaspheme the Holy name of the Holy Father

Mark 10:17-18And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?;And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

God is not a man. The "Let there be" creation of the Father

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. (Christian's sons of God)

If you are led by the Spirit of Christ than Jesus is not ashamed to call you brother, sister, mother . The new family of God. Call no man on earth Holy Father.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Instead of merely repeating what you have written several times before, I wonder if I could ask you to tell me what you think the apostles meant when they said or wrote six times in those verses I quoted, "Jesus is the Christ"? Were they, in your view, being led astray by Satan?

 

[Mr GLee]

Instead of merely repeating what you have written several times before, I wonder if I could ask you to tell me what you think the apostles meant when they said or wrote six times in those verses I quoted, "Jesus is the Christ"? Were they, in your view, being led astray by Satan?

Thanks for the reply .

Not a salvation issue.

More of . . . how we can better hear what His living words teach?

Can't' destroy the simplicity of the gospel. God not served by human hands, dying mankind. He has no needs but satisfies all his own ."let there be"

He pours out his eternal Spirit life as a lbor of His love on dying mankind. . the gospel.

I would suggest they did not say Jesus the Son of man is the Christ but was called the Christ outwardly revealing the workings of unseen Holy Father. . the husband of the bride the church

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

Matthew 27:17 Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ?

The apostles sent messengers as prophets are some that did have the faith to believe Christ worked in Jesus' dying flesh .But the promised three day and night demonstration was over.

Mankind could no, longer know Christ the one good teaching master after the dying flesh of mankind. Some would crucify him again and again as if God was a man.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

In that way we can know each other closer in prayer having the same spirit of faith as it is written (sola scriptura) the Spirit of family unity

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

 

[David Lamb]

Thanks for the reply .

Not a salvation issue.

More of . . . how we can better hear what His living words teach?

Can't' destroy the simplicity of the gospel. God not served by human hands, dying mankind. He has no needs but satisfies all his own ."let there be"

He pours out his eternal Spirit life as a lbor of His love on dying mankind. . the gospel.

I would suggest they did not say Jesus the Son of man is the Christ but was called the Christ outwardly revealing the workings of unseen Holy Father. . the husband of the bride the church

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

Matthew 27:17 Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ?

The apostles sent messengers as prophets are some that did have the faith to believe Christ worked in Jesus' dying flesh .But the promised three day and night demonstration was over.

Mankind could no, longer know Christ the one good teaching master after the dying flesh of mankind. Some would crucify him again and again as if God was a man.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

In that way we can know each other closer in prayer having the same spirit of faith as it is written (sola scriptura) the Spirit of family unity

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

No, Jesus wasn't mere called Christ. The apostles say 6 times: "Jesus is the Christ."

 

[Eleanor]

Whats its name since all living beings have personal names as the Father and son do.

Persons are not "its."

The name of the third person of the Triune God is Holy Spirit.
Have you ever read the NT?

 

[Mr GLee]

No, Jesus wasn't mere called Christ. The apostles say 6 times: "Jesus is the Christ."

Thanks, Brother David

I am still searching for the first time he said those words verbatim. . . "Jesus the Son of man is the Christ" (Father)

The Father Christ worked in Jesus the Son of man just as His Holy Spirit works in us.. . . . as it is written

Not by our dying will Father but you the living the will with gospel power.

 

[Eleanor]

No, Jesus wasn't mere called Christ. The apostles say 6 times: "Jesus is the Christ."

Thanks, Brother David

I am still searching for the first time he said those words verbatim. . . "Jesus the Son of man is the Christ" (Father)

Try Lk 10:16, "He who hears you (6 times), hears me."

God makes his truth clear to those who have eyes to see, those without such eyes will not see. . .that's how he separates the sheep (with eyes which can see) from the goats (with eyes which cannot see).