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Third Council of Constantinople states:
Inseparable Trinity and one natural operation. If I examine that to the Scriptures, then this is the conclusion:
Inseparability of Persons is a Trinity framework: "Just as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are inseparable, so they also work inseparably." Now the inseparable persons teaches that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are distinct yet never divided between their persons. Since the three persons are ontologically inseparable, then each person fully possesses the one divine nature. There is distinction between them and their persons is indivisible. This means the Father cannot exist without the Son, the Son cannot exist without the Father, and the Spirit cannot exist without either. And wherever one person is present, all are present. Because the divine nature is one and cannot be partitioned among the persons. The persons are in each other; they do not exist alongside one another as separable persons, nor do they occupy different spaces. The Father doesn't abandon the Son when troubles come; he is never isolated and absent from the Son. The Son doesn't imitate the Father from a distance, rather the Father is in the Son and the Son is in the Father. The Father is present and inseparable to the Son from eternally.
Ontologically Inseparable
⦁ The Son is not alone (John 8:29, 16:32).
⦁ Indwelling is inseparable (John 10:38, 14:10–11, 17:21).
Also, the Father has no “private” attributes because attributes belong to the one divine nature, not to the persons individually (John 16:15). If the Father has it, then the Son has it. The Father does not possess his own omnipotence, nor does the Son possess his own omnipotence, nor the Spirit his own; rather, there is one omnipotence of the one, undivided divine nature. There is not three operations but one divine operation possessed wholly and indivisibly by three persons sharing the same divine nature. The Son therefore does not merely sometimes operate in the Father’s attributes, as if his activity were occasional or derivative from the Father. The Father, the Son, and the Spirit acting inseparably in every manifestation of the divine attributes below is a few examples of this. The Father is not acting alone or the Son acting independently. The Father is not acting instead of the Son, nor the Son acting apart from the Father. They don't perform parallel actions, nor do they divide tasks among themselves, nor do they contribute separate causal “parts” to a shared work; rather, every action of God is the single, undivided act of the one divine nature, personally expressed through Father, Son, and Spirit.
Inseparable in One Operation
⦁ The operation is one coextensive, simultaneous, and identical with the Father (John 5:19). The Father's works and technically the Son's work from one inseparable operation (John 10:38, 14:10–11). Example of this would be both the Father and Son raises the dead and gives life (John 5:21). Or no one can snatch them from both the Father and Son's omnipotence (John 10:28–30). Even though the Spirit is not mentioned; he is automatically present and operating too. Every work is therefore a single, undivided operation of God being expressed through Father, Son, and Spirit. This is vividly displayed in the divine attribute of sovereignty in (Matthew 8:23–27), where Jesus rises and rebukes the winds and the waves, and creation instantly obeys him. The calming of the storm is not the Father acting apart from the Son, nor the Son acting independently of the Father, nor the Spirit absent from the event; rather, it is one sovereign act of the one divine nature, manifested through the human nature of Christ.
⦁ The Son is not acting independently from the Father and Spirit (Mark 2:1–12). Each person has the same omniscience. So, when the Son knows the thoughts of the scribes: He knows them from the one divine omniscience of God alone. Automatically the Father and Spirit also know them, because they possess the same omniscience. The operation of omniscience is according to the divine nature predicted to the Son-person and revealed to his human spirit (Mark 2:8). This is not intuition, guesswork, or prophetic insight. It is direct, immediate, intrinsic knowledge, which Scripture attributes to God alone (Mark 2:6-8). This verse explicitly reveals the omniscience of the Son's Deity. But because omniscience is an essential divine attribute, and because the divine nature is one, this moment implicitly reveals the omniscience of all three persons of God alone. There is only one inseparable operation. When the Son operates in a attribute, the other two persons automatically function inseparably in it too, vice versa to each person. The Son displays omniscience directly. The Father and Spirit operate in the same omniscience by logical necessity, because omniscience belongs to the one divine nature.
*There is more I can add to the list of the one operation like "omnipotent" and "divine will." But the thought of this is self-explanatory. Iron sharpens iron, Christ Centered Apologetic Ministries (CCAM) is a good place to test your thought. If you happen to agree with my results, then why? And if you happen to disagree with my results, then why? I look forward to the discussion. Thanks.
"For if anybody should mean a personal will, when in the holy Trinity there are said to be three Persons, it would be necessary that there should be asserted three personal wills, and three personal operations (which is absurd and truly profane). Since, as the truth of the Christian faith holds, the will is natural, where the one nature of the holy and inseparable Trinity is spoken of, it must be consistently understood that there is one natural will, and one natural operation"
Inseparable Trinity and one natural operation. If I examine that to the Scriptures, then this is the conclusion:
Inseparability of Persons is a Trinity framework: "Just as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are inseparable, so they also work inseparably." Now the inseparable persons teaches that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are distinct yet never divided between their persons. Since the three persons are ontologically inseparable, then each person fully possesses the one divine nature. There is distinction between them and their persons is indivisible. This means the Father cannot exist without the Son, the Son cannot exist without the Father, and the Spirit cannot exist without either. And wherever one person is present, all are present. Because the divine nature is one and cannot be partitioned among the persons. The persons are in each other; they do not exist alongside one another as separable persons, nor do they occupy different spaces. The Father doesn't abandon the Son when troubles come; he is never isolated and absent from the Son. The Son doesn't imitate the Father from a distance, rather the Father is in the Son and the Son is in the Father. The Father is present and inseparable to the Son from eternally.
Ontologically Inseparable
⦁ The Son is not alone (John 8:29, 16:32).
⦁ Indwelling is inseparable (John 10:38, 14:10–11, 17:21).
Also, the Father has no “private” attributes because attributes belong to the one divine nature, not to the persons individually (John 16:15). If the Father has it, then the Son has it. The Father does not possess his own omnipotence, nor does the Son possess his own omnipotence, nor the Spirit his own; rather, there is one omnipotence of the one, undivided divine nature. There is not three operations but one divine operation possessed wholly and indivisibly by three persons sharing the same divine nature. The Son therefore does not merely sometimes operate in the Father’s attributes, as if his activity were occasional or derivative from the Father. The Father, the Son, and the Spirit acting inseparably in every manifestation of the divine attributes below is a few examples of this. The Father is not acting alone or the Son acting independently. The Father is not acting instead of the Son, nor the Son acting apart from the Father. They don't perform parallel actions, nor do they divide tasks among themselves, nor do they contribute separate causal “parts” to a shared work; rather, every action of God is the single, undivided act of the one divine nature, personally expressed through Father, Son, and Spirit.
Inseparable in One Operation
⦁ The operation is one coextensive, simultaneous, and identical with the Father (John 5:19). The Father's works and technically the Son's work from one inseparable operation (John 10:38, 14:10–11). Example of this would be both the Father and Son raises the dead and gives life (John 5:21). Or no one can snatch them from both the Father and Son's omnipotence (John 10:28–30). Even though the Spirit is not mentioned; he is automatically present and operating too. Every work is therefore a single, undivided operation of God being expressed through Father, Son, and Spirit. This is vividly displayed in the divine attribute of sovereignty in (Matthew 8:23–27), where Jesus rises and rebukes the winds and the waves, and creation instantly obeys him. The calming of the storm is not the Father acting apart from the Son, nor the Son acting independently of the Father, nor the Spirit absent from the event; rather, it is one sovereign act of the one divine nature, manifested through the human nature of Christ.
⦁ The Son is not acting independently from the Father and Spirit (Mark 2:1–12). Each person has the same omniscience. So, when the Son knows the thoughts of the scribes: He knows them from the one divine omniscience of God alone. Automatically the Father and Spirit also know them, because they possess the same omniscience. The operation of omniscience is according to the divine nature predicted to the Son-person and revealed to his human spirit (Mark 2:8). This is not intuition, guesswork, or prophetic insight. It is direct, immediate, intrinsic knowledge, which Scripture attributes to God alone (Mark 2:6-8). This verse explicitly reveals the omniscience of the Son's Deity. But because omniscience is an essential divine attribute, and because the divine nature is one, this moment implicitly reveals the omniscience of all three persons of God alone. There is only one inseparable operation. When the Son operates in a attribute, the other two persons automatically function inseparably in it too, vice versa to each person. The Son displays omniscience directly. The Father and Spirit operate in the same omniscience by logical necessity, because omniscience belongs to the one divine nature.
*There is more I can add to the list of the one operation like "omnipotent" and "divine will." But the thought of this is self-explanatory. Iron sharpens iron, Christ Centered Apologetic Ministries (CCAM) is a good place to test your thought. If you happen to agree with my results, then why? And if you happen to disagree with my results, then why? I look forward to the discussion. Thanks.
