Actually you are giving this as a response to my post #105, which was a response to your post # 104. Let me quote yours and my response to it in order to get back on track as the above response is in no way related to my post or my purpose in posting it:
So do you think you can find the time to respond in a way that is responding to what is posted?
What you did post has been dealt with as to its unsoundness by others.
However I will ask a few questions and offer an alternate way of interpreting the number 144,000 in Rev. besides the JW way. Consider too that they themselves have had to adjust their interpretation of it over the years since the first interpretation became an impossibility.
Is the book of Revelation apocalyptic literature?
Do you know what that means and how such writings are to be interpreted?
Is John seeing visions that are presenting an invisible reality with the use of symbolic images, representative figures and numbers?
If the answer to that question is yes, then are the numbers used in the visions representing something or are they literal?
If they are representative, what does the number 12 represent in the Bible itself?
The number 12 in Scripture: Exploring its biblical symbolism
In which case multiples of 12 (144,00) would represent a number too large to be counted or ultimate,ultimate, completion of God's government, of both.
I would offer. .
12 the final authority of
God as
it is faithfully written
A number that should not have been asked.
The lord desires we walk or trust by faith a labor of Christ's love. . . . . the unseen eternal, not after the dying temporal
According to the opening statement Revelation 1:1 not only is the living word only
inspired but also
signified. Using the
temporal things seen as a
sign to the represent unseen
eternal.
Without parables Christ spoke not.
No signs were given to wonder after. Believers have prophecy till the end sealed with 7 seals
Gold is the only rudiment during creation of this dying creation before the fall. . said to a having the good very good
12 the approval
seal of God.
12 the
golden measure of
faith (power) the unknow eternal
She is made up of 12 (final authority or power of God) tribes as Gates. And 12 foundations for the gates as Apostles, sent ones. Both gates and walls together making one chaste virgin bride espoused to Christ like that of Timiothy by whom Paul suffered in pains of birth until Christ indwelt his bride.
12 gates represented by Old Testament saints with the tribe of Dan missing .12 foundation as apostles with Judas missing. 13 = overboard
Some giving credit to Satan the father of the lust of the flesh lust of the eye makes it about human reproduction sex and not virgin non-married no children of her own
Revelation21:14-16 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. And he that talked with me had a
golden reed to measure the
city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the
city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the
city with the
reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.; And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the
measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
Gold not knowable . . .none of our business. Let the dead bury the dead
It is why when Moses finished sola scriptura, he was to put the Bbile on the side of the golden Ark hiding the understanding of faith (unseen things of God)
Christ knew when Moses passed away it was off to . . ."we will rather do what soever our own mouths as oral traditions of dying mankind. If we desire a Queen mother what business is that of you.
In efect. . we will not hearken to sola scriptura the
golden rule #
12
Jerimiah 44:16 -17 As for the
word that thou hast spoken unto us in the
name of the
Lord,
we will not
hearken unto
thee.
But
we will certainly do
whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our
own mouth, to burn incense unto the
queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto
her, as we have done,
we, and our
fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had
we plenty of victuals, and were well, and
saw no evil.
12 a remnant of the whole (144,000) the chaste virgin bride.
