Trinity: The Divinity of Jesus

[David Lamb]

"Spirit" in Heb/Grk means only "Breath, Wind" meaning invisible force.

True, but my post was not about the word translated "spirit", but the word(s) translate "Holy Spirit" and "Spirit of Christ." Neither of those can be just an invisible force. For example:

“But they rebelled and grieved His Holy Spirit; So He turned Himself against them as an enemy, And He fought against them.” (Isa 63:10 NKJV)

You cannot grieve a force. Also:

“But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself?” (Ac 5:3 NKJV)

You cannot tell lies to force.

 

[David Lamb]

Rom 8:16- The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.

True, but only in the KJV as far as I know. I have looked at the verse in 30 Engish translations, and the KJV is the only one of them that uses "itself." For instance, the Geneva has:

The same Spirit beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.

The NKJV has:

“The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,” (Ro 8:16 NKJV)

The original Greek word is autos. I don't know Greek, but my bible software's concordance has this entry for the word:

846 autos [ow-tos ]

from the particle au [perhaps akin to the base of 109 through the idea of a baffling wind] (backward); pron;

AV-him 1952, his 1084, their 318, he 253, her 242, they 121, same 80, himself 58, misc 1679; 5787

1) himself, herself, themselves, itself
2) he, she, it
3) the same

 

[David Lamb]

Just SAD.

Sorry, what is sad?

 

[Hazelelponi]

He's blasphemous, that one.

 

[Eleanor]

Rom 8:16- The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.

And the rest of the story. . .

LIkewise referred to with
1) personal pronouns (masculine--Jn 16:13-14),
2) personal functions (intelligence--Jn 14:26, will--Ac 16:6-7, affections--Eph 4:30, all of which are personal) and
3) personal titles (Comforter--Jn 14:6, Counselor--Jn 15:26, Advocate--Jn 16:17, Guide--Jn 16:13, Intercessor--Ro 8:26, Revealer of truth--Jn 14:17, Teacher--Jn 4:26, Witness--Ro 8:16).

The NT views the Holy Spirit as a person.

 

[Eleanor]

Did Christ say the Holy Ghost was the only true God?

Jesus said the Holy Spirit came forth out of the Father (Jn 15:26) just as Jesus did (Jn 8:42, 16:27, 28, 17:8).
The Holy Spirit comes (proceeds) out from within (ek-poreuetai) the Father as does Christ, making the Holy Spirit the same nature as the Father, as is Christ; i.e., the Holy Spirit is divine (God), as is Christ.

The one God is three distinct divine persons--Father, Son, Holy Spirit, in the name (singular, one God) of which all Christians are to be baptized (Mt 28:19).

 

[Eleanor]

If it's a 'he'- what is his name?

Holy Spirit. . .(advocate)

 

[Rella]

If it's a 'he'- what is his name?

Pardon me folks, for I shall leave after posting this but.....

Me thinks Charlie Chan would say #3.