The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

[CrowCross]

The whole work of salvation is by the Power of the father alone .The Son of man Jesus, his dying flesh profited for nothing. zero In that 3 day and nights demonstration of suffering workings according to the power of the father as the Lamb of God who was slain during the 6 days a living sacrifice not dead. The demonstration was not the actual work .it the lamb slain again it was done in the first six days . The demonstration was promised as prophecy

If the Son of man Jesus actually died then that would teach reincarnation. Once to die . Like, Jesus our brother in the Lord.

He suffered for our sins the Father kept him from death (corruption )By his wounds we are healed

God is not a man.

Soooooooooooooooo, when they took Jesus off of the cross...he was still alive???

 

[Mr GLee]

Soooooooooooooooo, when they took Jesus off of the cross...he was still alive???

Hi thanks

Yesssssss . Son of man "suffered unto death" not dead. Suffering is not dead .Wounded is not dead. Living sacrifice not dead.

Laurus 4 days the Father kept his body from corrupting to the point of no return . Jesus called it sleep . Then the wakeup call. Lazarus Rise to new life."dead asleep"

John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

God and not the son of man Jesus. . . poured out his Spirit life on dying sinful flesh in jeopardy of his own Holy Spirit .

Matthew 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

This is first time Christ is shown working in the Son of man. . strengthening Jesus to do the will of the Father, It began in the garden Gethsemane. The three days and nights promised demonstration Genesis 3:15 and Isaiah 5 the father and Son alone working .The Father striking the Son of man bruising his heel, crushing the head of the serpent as he poured out his spirit of the flesh of Jesus

The demonstrations did not begin with the cross/tree, the more popular demonstration that has a different intent purpose that sufferings( Mathew 26:28 began in the garden .

Then they moved to part two the bloody demonstration the tree or what some call the cross . on the hill of the skull used to represent shame, Then part three demonstration the Tomb, another intent or kind of teaching purpose .

Three is used throughout the bible to indicate the end of a matter. Three and nights, three different kind of demonstration all working together as one.

No credit goes to the Son of man, Jesus . A common error that many seem to make . .

The Son of man Jesus is not the Christ. The Christ has the power to anoint or teach, the unseen Holy Father .

Jesus our brother in the lord was no more or less human than any person born of a woman .When the father gave his apostle Jesus words a person must be born again he was no excluding himself. Marvel not.

Simply Satan who has no form or body over and over trying to make a God into a Jewish man as the king of kings, Lord of lords .

He began that goal in the garden of Eden when mankind began dying, sufferings the wage of sin They were as good as dead the moment they ate of the forbidden fruit .In that way God calls mankind dead.

Sufferings the pang of hell carrying out the appointment, dead once. No reincarnation.

Jesus the prophet sent as a apostle said of his own flesh. . . it profits for nothing. zero, nada .

It's all about the Father displaying his power working in mankind pouring his Spirit life in jeopardy of his own Holy Spirit. God as Christ cannot die. He suffered in jeopardy of his own spirit on dead flesh and blood

John 11:4 When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.

Hell suffering not dead .

Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption

 

[CrowCross]

I asked.....Soooooooooooooooo, when they took Jesus off of the cross...he was still alive???

The reply.

Hi thanks

Yesssssss . Son of man "suffered unto death" not dead. Suffering is not dead .Wounded is not dead. Living sacrifice not dead.

Are you really going with Jesus was still alive when they took Him down from the cross and placed him in the Tomb?

If so, what "denomination" or "sect" teaches this theology?

 

[Mr GLee]

I asked.....Soooooooooooooooo, when they took Jesus off of the cross...he was still alive???

The reply.

Are you really going with Jesus was still alive when they took Him down from the cross and placed him in the Tomb?

If so, what "denomination" or "sect" teaches this theology?

Yes, I really don't think our brother in the Lord Jesus was reincarnated. God does not offer dead sacrifices.

Dead asleep like Lazurus 4 days. Jesus with words from the father woke him up.

 

[brightfame52]

Christs blood/Death converts them He died for, His Church or Sheep into a kingdom of priests Rev 1:5-6

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

[CrowCross]

Yes, I really don't think our brother in the Lord Jesus was reincarnated. God does not offer dead sacrifices.

You do know there is a difference between reincarnation and resurrection? If you see no difference then i suggest we end this discussion.

I was going to suggest it earlier when you said Jesus didn't die on the cross. When you threw 2,000 years of christianity in the trash.

Dead asleep like Lazurus 4 days. Jesus with words from the father woke him up.

 

[Keiw1]

The Death of Christ alone saved them he died for, namely the Elect, the Sheep, since by His One Offering they were sanctified unto God once and for all Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Only these will get grace-Ones who repent and turn around.( Acts 3:19) Ones who live now in this satan ruled system living to do Jesus' Fathers will over self.( Matt 7:21)-- Those who obey Jesus-John 15:10-14)= Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God=studying OT-NT it never stops.

 

[Mr GLee]

You do know there is a difference between reincarnation and resurrection? If you see no difference then i suggest we end this discussion.

Big difference between born again (resurrection from the dead) and reincarnation.

Remember God calls us dead. Daily in dying we suffer the consequences of sin the pangs of hell . Its appointed to die once at the end of our sufferings the pangs of hell . Then we receives our new incorruptible body No one has received. All will at the same time to include Jesus the son of man, our brother in the Lord.

Satan's goal that mankind believe God is a Jewish man as King of kings. God is not a man. creation.The wrath of God comes to those who would believe God is a man.

 

[brightfame52]

Only these will get grace-Ones who repent and turn around.( Acts 3:19) Ones who live now in this satan ruled system living to do Jesus' Fathers will over self.( Matt 7:21)-- Those who obey Jesus-John 15:10-14)= Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God=studying OT-NT it never stops.

Those who Christ died for will receive all the Sanctifying Grace they need to set them apart unto God, cant you read what Heb 10:10 says ?

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

The word sanctified is in the perfect tense and means:

1. o separate from profane things and dedicate to God
   1. consecrate things to God
   2. dedicate people to God
2. to purify
   1. to cleanse externally
   2. to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin
   3. to purify internally by renewing of the soul

Those He died for and sanctified are ensured the renewing of the soul, a inward work of the Spirit Titus 3:5
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

The only ones not turning to God are the ones Christ didnt die for friend.

 

[brightfame52]

See as a result of His Blood shed and consequently it washes those He died for from their sins, He makes, produces them into spiritual priests. The word made in Rev 1:6 is the word poieó and means:

to make, do
Usage: (a) I make, manufacture, construct, (b) I do, act, cause.

with the names of the things made, to produce, construct, form, fashion,

to create, to produce: of God, as the author of all things, τί or τινα, Matthew 19:4; Mark 10:6; Luke 11:40; Hebrews 1:2; Acts 4:24; Acts 7:50; Acts 17:24; Revelation 14:7

The death of Christ results in a new creation !

 

[CrowCross]

Big difference between born again (resurrection from the dead) and reincarnation.

I'm glad to hear you understand there is a difference.

The question remains....was Jesus clinically dead when He was removed from the cross and placed into Josephs tomb?

Remember God calls us dead. Daily in dying we suffer the consequences of sin the pangs of hell . Its appointed to die once at the end of our sufferings the pangs of hell . Then we receives our new incorruptible body No one has received. All will at the same time to include Jesus the son of man, our brother in the Lord.

Satan's goal that mankind believe God is a Jewish man as King of kings. God is not a man. creation.The wrath of God comes to those who would believe God is a man.

Jesus was born into the Jewish linage...Davids...Jesus is the King of kings....

Who do you say Jesus was?

 

[Keiw1]

Those who Christ died for will receive all the Sanctifying Grace they need to set them apart unto God, cant you read what Heb 10:10 says ?

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

The word sanctified is in the perfect tense and means:

1. o separate from profane things and dedicate to God
   1. consecrate things to God
   2. dedicate people to God
2. to purify
   1. to cleanse externally
   2. to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin
   3. to purify internally by renewing of the soul

Those He died for and sanctified are ensured the renewing of the soul, a inward work of the Spirit Titus 3:5
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

The only ones not turning to God are the ones Christ didnt die for friend.

You are twisting what is said--Here at Matt 7:21-23 Jesus assures all that at judgement, no matter what they think they did for Jesus out of the love they think they had for him, If they work iniquity( practice a sin) Jesus assures those he never even knew them after he tells them to get away from him= negative judgement= no grace for those. There are guidelines each individual mortal MUST do to get grace. I shared 3 of them with you in my previous post.

 

[Mr GLee]

I'm glad to hear you understand there is a difference.

The question remains....was Jesus clinically dead when He was removed from the cross and placed into Josephs tomb?



Jesus was born into the Jewish linage...Davids...Jesus is the King of kings....

Who do you say Jesus was?

Christ, the anointing Holy Spirit as eternal God cannot die. He poured out his eternal Holy Spirit on dying flesh and blood, in jeopardy of his own Spirit life. I would call it the gospel,

The Son of man Jesus said of his own dying flesh it profits for nothing(John 6) He was wounded for our transgressions by his bruises we are healed.

The faithful Father strengthened the Son keeping his body from corrupting to dead.

Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; (sufferings) neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Jesus sufferings the pangs of hell unto death, not dead he was strengthened by the Father all three days of demonstration beginning with the demonstration in the Garden of Gethsemane. Before moving to the cross the bloody kind of demonstration.and then the demonstration of the tomb hiding the work the demonstration of faith.

Four days for Lazarus, before the wake up call ."Lazarus rise."Having the disciples remove the grave clothes and rolled back the stone. A different kind demonstration three working as one the gospel demonstration perhaps with Lazarus Representing Christian fellowship, Welcoming in a new believer, removing the grave clothes, the hard stinky good labor of love . . . strengthening a new brother or sister in the Lord.

Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Unlike the demonstration of the tomb the unseen demonstration of faith. The invisible work of our Holy Father. The Father removed the grave clothes of the Son of man, Jesus and rolled back the stone, completing the three days and nights the father did demonstrate his labor of love to the the whole world. As parable revealed to all the nation of the world to represent the promises of His unseen labor of love that works in those yoked with Christ .The one good Faithful teaching master.



Luke 22:32
But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

I'm glad to hear you understand there is a difference.

The question remains....was Jesus clinically dead when He was removed from the cross and placed into Josephs tomb?



Jesus was born into the Jewish linage...Davids...Jesus is the King of kings....

Who do you say Jesus was?

As the Son of man Jesus is our brother in the lord .He said whosoever does the will of the powerful Holy Father the Creator are his brothers and sisters(.Matthew 12:50)

No credit as power that is needed to be born again comes from the flesh of Jesus. He said his flesh counts for zero. (John 6:63) His dying flesh was used to demonstration the work of invisible Father as King of earthly kings, And Lord of earthly lords.

Again, Jesus was used to demonstrate the love of our invisible God as King of kings.

Satan would have mankind believe that eternal God who remains without beginning of days or end of life is a dying Jewish man as King of kings and Lord of lords.

We have the power of the King of Kings working in us but that power not in respect to the dying things of a corrupted earth.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Not of the flesh of any man.

 

[Mr GLee]

You are twisting what is said--Here at Matt 7:21-23 Jesus assures all that at judgement, no matter what they think they did for Jesus out of the love they think they had for him, If they work iniquity( practice a sin) Jesus assures those he never even knew them after he tells them to get away from him= negative judgement= no grace for those. There are guidelines each individual mortal MUST do to get grace. I shared 3 of them with you in my previous post.

It's not what we do to receive grace.

God grace comes from Christ's work of faith as a labor of His love. Faith of Christ works in us (new born again faith ) is the gift.

He gives us little of His faith and calls of little faith Again God unseen the source of power.

 

[brightfame52]

You are twisting what is said--Here at Matt 7:21-23 Jesus assures all that at judgement, no matter what they think they did for Jesus out of the love they think they had for him, If they work iniquity( practice a sin) Jesus assures those he never even knew them after he tells them to get away from him= negative judgement= no grace for those. There are guidelines each individual mortal MUST do to get grace. I shared 3 of them with you in my previous post.

Those who Christ died for will receive all the Sanctifying Grace they need to set them apart unto God, cant you read what Heb 10:10 says ?

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

The word sanctified is in the perfect tense and means:

1. o separate from profane things and dedicate to God
   1. consecrate things to God
   2. dedicate people to God
2. to purify
   1. to cleanse externally
   2. to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin
   3. to purify internally by renewing of the soul

 

[CrowCross]

Christ, the anointing Holy Spirit as eternal God cannot die. He poured out his eternal Holy Spirit on dying flesh and blood, in jeopardy of his own Spirit life. I would call it the gospel,

The Son of man Jesus said of his own dying flesh it profits for nothing(John 6) He was wounded for our transgressions by his bruises we are healed.

The faithful Father strengthened the Son keeping his body from corrupting to dead.

Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; (sufferings) neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Jesus sufferings the pangs of hell unto death, not dead he was strengthened by the Father all three days of demonstration beginning with the demonstration in the Garden of Gethsemane. Before moving to the cross the bloody kind of demonstration.and then the demonstration of the tomb hiding the work the demonstration of faith.

Four days for Lazarus, before the wake up call ."Lazarus rise."Having the disciples remove the grave clothes and rolled back the stone. A different kind demonstration three working as one the gospel demonstration perhaps with Lazarus Representing Christian fellowship, Welcoming in a new believer, removing the grave clothes, the hard stinky good labor of love . . . strengthening a new brother or sister in the Lord.

Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Unlike the demonstration of the tomb the unseen demonstration of faith. The invisible work of our Holy Father. The Father removed the grave clothes of the Son of man, Jesus and rolled back the stone, completing the three days and nights the father did demonstrate his labor of love to the the whole world. As parable revealed to all the nation of the world to represent the promises of His unseen labor of love that works in those yoked with Christ .The one good Faithful teaching master.



Luke 22:32
But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.


As the Son of man Jesus is our brother in the lord .He said whosoever does the will of the powerful Holy Father the Creator are his brothers and sisters(.Matthew 12:50)

No credit as power that is needed to be born again comes from the flesh of Jesus. He said his flesh counts for zero. (John 6:63) His dying flesh was used to demonstration the work of invisible Father as King of earthly kings, And Lord of earthly lords.

Again, Jesus was used to demonstrate the love of our invisible God as King of kings.

Satan would have mankind believe that eternal God who remains without beginning of days or end of life is a dying Jewish man as King of kings and Lord of lords.

We have the power of the King of Kings working in us but that power not in respect to the dying things of a corrupted earth.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Not of the flesh of any man.

The question remains....was Jesus clinically dead when He was removed from the cross and placed into Josephs tomb?

A simple yes or no is all that is required.

 

[Mr GLee]

The question remains....was Jesus clinically dead when He was removed from the cross and placed into Josephs tomb?

A simple yes or no is all that is required.

Dead asleep like Larus four days

I answered. God as Christ cannot die. He worked His Holy Spirit in the Son of man, dying mankind, in order to display or demonstrate the promises (Genesis 3:15 with Isaiah 53) of two working together as one .

No power is accredited to dying flesh of mankin.,

Jesus the Son of man is our brother in the Lord. (100% dying mankind )
God is not a Jewish man as King of kings That is the goal of Satan, needed to deceive all the nations of the world .

 

[CrowCross]

Dead asleep like Larus four days

I answered. God as Christ cannot die. He worked His Holy Spirit in the Son of man, dying mankind, in order to display or demonstrate the promises (Genesis 3:15 with Isaiah 53) of two working together as one .

No power is accredited to dying flesh of mankin.,

Jesus the Son of man is our brother in the Lord. (100% dying mankind )
God is not a Jewish man as King of kings That is the goal of Satan, needed to deceive all the nations of the world .

Are you now re-adjusting your comment?
I think we all know the Spirit of Jesus didn't die....but you seem to be saying the physical body of Christ didn't die on the cross.

 

[Keiw1]

It's not what we do to receive grace.

God grace comes from Christ's work of faith as a labor of His love. Faith of Christ works in us (new born again faith ) is the gift.

He gives us little of His faith and calls of little faith Again God unseen the source of power.

Those at Matt 7:21-23 believe they have faith. Mortals MUST meet requirements.

 

[Keiw1]

Those who Christ died for will receive all the Sanctifying Grace they need to set them apart unto God, cant you read what Heb 10:10 says ?

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

The word sanctified is in the perfect tense and means:

1. o separate from profane things and dedicate to God
   1. consecrate things to God
   2. dedicate people to God
2. to purify
   1. to cleanse externally
   2. to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin
   3. to purify internally by renewing of the soul

Jesus died for those who live righteous in this satan ruled system. Jesus was clear-FEW will find the road that leads off into life. Because Few obey. Few bother to learn and apply EVERY utterance from God because a blind guide assured them-you are saved.