THE ANGELS THAT SINNED

[jeremiah1five]

Gen 6 NEVER says angels or fallen angels

The whole context of Gen 6 is mankind

Notice Gen 4 & 5 have many references to the offspring and never a word about angels or giants

Notice also the similarities between Gen 3:6 and Gen 6:2 saw it was beautiful and took it

Here's one subject we agree.

 

[donadams]

Here's one subject we agree.

Thanks

 

[donadams]

The Holy Spirit uses the Greek word "diabolos" which is an adjective and it means "traducer" which means "false accuser."
Although the human nature of Christ was without sin it still needed to be tested. There was no need to test the Divine nature of Christ (Logos.)
You must first understand that it was the Divine (God) becoming flesh (man) and not flesh becoming God. So, it had to be tested.
Jesus Christ knew full well who He was and what He came to do. At the age of twelve He said that He must be about 'my Father's business.' So as a holy child living in this sinful world, He knew why He came into the world.

Jesus cast out "devils" (adj.) by the Spirit of God.

(Adj.)
As with Christ but not holy we deal with our flesh daily. The Spirit is contrary/adversary to the flesh. The flesh is a traducer, liar, and false accuser. and this happens as it did with Christ when He was tempted. The Word of God says one thing or other about us in Christ. This is what we are to trust, what God says about us. When our thoughts, as what happened to Christ when He was tested, tell us one thing and it is a fallacy and a lie we are to resist those thoughts and trust God's Word about us.

As above, our adversary is our flesh. It is constantly with us accusing us to God. Our minds do that as we struggle with our flesh daily. Do I obey, or do I disobey? Who rules my life? Spirit or flesh? And giving in to the flesh one time leads to another submission and soon if not countered we are devoured and become servants to our sin, and this leads to backsliding.

These two mentally deranged men knew the gossip and stories about Jesus. They even accepted that He was the Son of God through their knowledge of the OT Scripture prophecies. There are Scripture that recounts Jesus healing physical deformities and sickness, but where in Scripture does it say Jesus healing the mentally ill? And there were mentally ill persons in Scripture. This is one of those times. There was nothing wrong with them physically, but they did have some mental issues afflicting them.

Jesus healed their mind, as a matter of fact when Jesus was done, they were in their right mind.

Your op has all the fallen angels bound, so who are possessing men, and tempting men?

 

[jeremiah1five]

Your op has all the fallen angels bound, so who are possessing men, and tempting men?

Let me try something...when you are tempted does it come from within or without?

 

[donadams]

Let me try something...when you are tempted does it come from within or without?

Could be from demons or fallen angels or could be from the fallen human nature or lower carnal passions
Thanks

 

[jeremiah1five]

Could be from demons or fallen angels

So, demons or fallen angels are tempting you? But that can't be right because all the angels that sinned according to Peter and Jude are locked up.

or could be from the fallen human nature or lower carnal passions
Thanks

Could be. But which is it?
So, you are possessed by fallen angels?
I always knew you were possessed by fallen angels, Don.
That explains a lot about your postings.

 

[CrowCross]

The entire context of Gen 6 is man, men, mankind!

Angels are never even mentioned!

Sons of God. Maybe your bible says something different.

Elsewhere in genesis the writer refers to angels and actually call them “angels”!

Scripture does not say these giants are fallen angels

I never said it did. The giants are the result of the fallen angels mating with human females.

How does Goliath exist after the flood? Is he a giant? From an angel or a philistine?

If angels had bodies they would have died out in the flood!

Either the angels did it again...or one of Noahs's sons wives had "giant" blood in them.

Thanks

Perhaps you can explain where the giants came from.

 

[CrowCross]

A man sins and he is still a man
He don’t become a baboon?

What as their habitation?

You're comparing apples to oranges.

 

[donadams]

The Holy Spirit uses the Greek word "diabolos" which is an adjective and it means "traducer" which means "false accuser."
Although the human nature of Christ was without sin it still needed to be tested. There was no need to test the Divine nature of Christ (Logos.)
You must first understand that it was the Divine (God) becoming flesh (man) and not flesh becoming God. So, it had to be tested.
Jesus Christ knew full well who He was and what He came to do. At the age of twelve He said that He must be about 'my Father's business.' So as a holy child living in this sinful world, He knew why He came into the world.

Jesus cast out "devils" (adj.) by the Spirit of God.

(Adj.)
As with Christ but not holy we deal with our flesh daily. The Spirit is contrary/adversary to the flesh. The flesh is a traducer, liar, and false accuser. and this happens as it did with Christ when He was tempted. The Word of God says one thing or other about us in Christ. This is what we are to trust, what God says about us. When our thoughts, as what happened to Christ when He was tested, tell us one thing and it is a fallacy and a lie we are to resist those thoughts and trust God's Word about us.

As above, our adversary is our flesh. It is constantly with us accusing us to God. Our minds do that as we struggle with our flesh daily. Do I obey, or do I disobey? Who rules my life? Spirit or flesh? And giving in to the flesh one time leads to another submission and soon if not countered we are devoured and become servants to our sin, and this leads to backsliding.

These two mentally deranged men knew the gossip and stories about Jesus. They even accepted that He was the Son of God through their knowledge of the OT Scripture prophecies. There are Scripture that recounts Jesus healing physical deformities and sickness, but where in Scripture does it say Jesus healing the mentally ill? And there were mentally ill persons in Scripture. This is one of those times. There was nothing wrong with them physically, but they did have some mental issues afflicting them.

Jesus healed their mind, as a matter of fact when Jesus was done, they were in their right mind.

Jesus is a divine person who became man, and not a human person, that is why Mary is truly the “mother of God” Jesus is God, Mary is His mother, so she is the mother of God not to be confused with “source”, she is not the source of God or the mother of the divine nature, or the mother of the eternal Father, nor the mother of the spirit!

But mother of the Son who is God.

Only one person every has a family relationship with God, Mary; and she has three!

Daughter of the Father
Mother of the Son
Spouse of the Holy Spirit

And Jesus being our spiritual brother Mary is our spiritual mother!

And the mother of our salvation!
Thanks

 

[donadams]

So, demons or fallen angels are tempting you? But that can't be right because all the angels that sinned according to Peter and Jude are locked up.

Could be. But which is it?
So, you are possessed by fallen angels?
I always knew you were possessed by fallen angels, Don.
That explains a lot about your postings.

Don’t be silly, it depends on the temptation, the desires of the flesh want to be indulged by pleasure, we must submit them to the intellect and will to do the Will of God and commandments

Deny Thy self take up Thy cross, self denial sacrifice suffering with Christ and His merits conquer the flesh, he who suffers in the flesh ceases from sin 1 pet 2:24 1 pet 4:1

But sons of pride hatred unforgiving theft lying are temptations from the evil one, just as eve and Christ were tempted

 

[jeremiah1five]

Jesus is a divine person who became man, and not a human person, that is why Mary is truly the “mother of God” Jesus is God, Mary is His mother, so she is the mother of God not to be confused with “source”, she is not the source of God or the mother of the divine nature, or the mother of the eternal Father, nor the mother of the spirit!
But mother of the Son who is God.

Mary is the mother of the man Jesus. She had no part is "sourcing" the Deity of Christ. He came from the Holy Spirit who overshadowed her.

Only one person every has a family relationship with God, Mary; and she has three!
Daughter of the Father
Mother of the Son
Spouse of the Holy Spirit

That's crazy.
She is the daughter of her human father.
She is the mother of a human child Jesus.
She is NOT an adulterer and married to Joseph AND the Holy Spirit. That's called bigamy and it is SIN.

And Jesus being our spiritual brother Mary is our spiritual mother!

Our spiritual mother is the Church. She is the bride of Christ, and we are God's children through Christ, NOT Mary.

And the mother of our salvation!
Thanks

Two places in Scripture say:
Salvation is of the Jews,
and salvation is of the Lord.
But NOWHERE can you provide Scripture that a weak, sinful human is mother of our salvation. You lean upon your own understanding in the vanity of your mind.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Don’t be silly, it depends on the temptation, the desires of the flesh want to be indulged by pleasure, we must submit them to the intellect and will to do the Will of God and commandments

Deny Thy self take up Thy cross, self denial sacrifice suffering with Christ and His merits conquer the flesh, he who suffers in the flesh ceases from sin 1 pet 2:24 1 pet 4:1

But sons of pride hatred unforgiving theft lying are temptations from the evil one, just as eve and Christ were tempted

So, does the temptation come from within, from your fallen nature?
There's nowhere else it can come from since the angels that sinned are all cast down to hell delivered unto chains of darkness reserved unto judgment.
So, where does your temptation come from? You can say it. And when you do I'll praise God for you.

 

[donadams]

Mary is the mother of the man Jesus. She had no part is "sourcing" the Deity of Christ. He came from the Holy Spirit who overshadowed her.

That's crazy.
She is the daughter of her human father.
She is the mother of a human child Jesus.
She is NOT an adulterer and married to Joseph AND the Holy Spirit. That's called bigamy and it is SIN.

Our spiritual mother is the Church. She is the bride of Christ, and we are God's children through Christ, NOT Mary.

Two places in Scripture say:
Salvation is of the Jews,
and salvation is of the Lord.
But NOWHERE can you provide Scripture that a weak, sinful human is mother of our salvation. You lean upon your own understanding in the vanity of your mind.

Lk 2:30

 

[donadams]

So, does the temptation come from within, from your fallen nature?
There's nowhere else it can come from since the angels that sinned are all cast down to hell delivered unto chains of darkness reserved unto judgment.
So, where does your temptation come from? You can say it. And when you do I'll praise God for you.

How did satan temp eve?

How did satan tempt?

1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

 

[donadams]

67. In the beginning of time God created spiritual essences (angels) out of nothing.
68. The nature of angels is spiritual.

Dogma

 

[jeremiah1five]

Lk 2:30

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
Lk 2:30.

Choosing one Scripture to uphold your belief is not being honest with Scripture.

46 And Mary said,
My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Lk 1:46–47.

Sinners need a Savior.
The holy does not.
Mary was a sinner who needed a Savior and Jesus was that Savior.

 

[jeremiah1five]

How did satan temp eve?

How did satan tempt?

1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Merely being tempted is not sin.
Jesus was tempted.
Sin must originate from somewhere.
Where does sin come from?

 

[donadams]

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
Lk 2:30.

Choosing one Scripture to uphold your belief is not being honest with Scripture.

46 And Mary said,
My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Lk 1:46–47.

Sinners need a Savior.
The holy does not.
Mary was a sinner who needed a Savior and Jesus was that Savior.

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
Lk 2:30.

Choosing one Scripture to uphold your belief is not being honest with Scripture.

46 And Mary said,
My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Lk 1:46–47.

Sinners need a Savior.
The holy does not.
Mary was a sinner who needed a Savior and Jesus was that Savior.

Bible proves that Mary most holy, ever virgin mother of God & mother of our salvation is not a sinner!

Lk 1:28 Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women.

How can God fill a sinner with grace, and remain a sinner?
Hail Mary full of grace!

How can the Lord be with a sinner?
The lord is with thee!

How can sinner be blessed!
Blessed art thou, and all generations shall call me blessed!

Lk 1: 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

How can a sinner be the mother of God?

Lk 1: 45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.

How could sinner be faithful?

Lk 1: 46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,

How could a sinner magnify the Lord?

Lk 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

How could sinner be humble?

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

How could sinner be the immaculate conception and the have the Holy Spirit accomplish the Miraculous conception of Jesus in Her?

Matt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

How could sinner be a perpetual Virgin bringing forth the savior of the world?

Jn 2 how could Christ obey a sinner and perform a miracle in which his disciples believed in him?

Jn 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

How could sinner be our spiritual mother?

Lk 2:30 I have seen my salvation!

How could a sinner be the mother of our salvation?

Jesus Christ is our savior in two ways.

One: He forgives our past sins.

Two: He preserves us from sin by the power of His grace.

Mary most holy in the first moment of Her conception (natural) was preserved from original sin and all sin by the power of God thru the merits of Jesus Christ! Gen 3:15 Lk 1:28 Lk 1:49 rev 12:1

Praise of Mary and the saints redounds to the glory of God and Christ, cos Mary and the saints are what God made them, it is His handiwork (Lk 1:49 Lk 1:28) and the graces they have come from the merits of Christ’s passion and death.

2 Thessalonians 1:10
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

 

[donadams]

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
Lk 2:30.

Choosing one Scripture to uphold your belief is not being honest with Scripture.

46 And Mary said,
My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Lk 1:46–47.

Sinners need a Savior.
The holy does not.
Mary was a sinner who needed a Savior and Jesus was that Savior.

All scripture is inspired even “one word”!!!

 

[donadams]

Merely being tempted is not sin.
Jesus was tempted.
Sin must originate from somewhere.
Where does sin come from?

But if as you claim all the fallen angels “spiritual nature” are locked up in chains “physical” then who is the roaring lion going around tempting men?