RC Sproul on the Doctrine of God

[Eternally-Grateful]

I don't think that's what @Rescued One was talking about. He can't fathom a God who waits to see what his creatures will do, before making up his own mind what he will do. (Nor can I).

God does not have to wait. He is omniscient. He knows 100 years from now as he knows this very second.

Thats what Makes God God

He not only knows how a person will act, He knows what it will take for a person to act. Or he knows that no matter what he does. A person will never react.

God waiting 400 years before giving the land to Abraham’s family, because he he said, the sin of the Amorite was not yet complete. There was still hope. People could still be saved and turn to God in that region. God looked ahead, and knew 400 years later. No matter what God did, no one would repent in that area.

It’s also why he told them when they went in, Do now leave anything alive. (To which they did nto listen and why there will never be peace in that part of the world until christ returns)

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Actually there was, and God decreed it to occur.

When you say decree, Can you explain this?

1. God allowed it?
2. God predetermined that it must happen?
3/ God set it in stone that it would happen. And Caused abraham to sin.

We know God in such a different way.

One of the problems we face in our society is getting people who were born and raised in the west - especially those with more affluent upbringings - to understand the reality of evil men in the world.

They have been so wrapped in God's provisions that trying to convince them they are playing with a fire they don't actually want to play with is worse than pulling teeth.

They don't understand real danger and can't see it when it's standing right in front of them.

When you don't understand danger you also have no respect or proper appreciation for the ease and safety you spent your life wrapped in and end up throwing that ease and safety away like so much toilet paper, instead of treating it like an inheritance God gave you that should be preserved - not sold like the prodigal son did.

Considering this, we should understand that the presence of evil helps us more fully recognize God's goodness, His provision, His Glory, and His mercy.

You can know what is good all day long, but you don't appreciate it without knowing it's opposite... The knowledge of good, real knowledge, includes knowing what is not good too.

There is a knowing we have of and about God through this experience of life in a fallen world that not even the angels will ever know, who never knew pain or suffering themselves.

This doesn't make God evil to decree it good for a creature to know Him in this way, nor does it make God the author of sin.

Everything I ever suffered and every struggle I ever had was worth it the day I was saved - and I hadn't even gotten to heaven yet.

This is how I see it

God is patient, willing that non should perish. Thats why he does not immediately take a person him when they are saved, he allowed them to live int he world. And it is why he does not remove all evil at this time. Because like you say, We must become poor in spirit. And if every ing is going our way. We will never become poor in spirit.

Thats also why he allies the weeds and wheat to grow together.

But remember, When Adam sinned, there was no evil. If adam did not sin, there would be no need for eveil. For men were right with God and earned their standing. Adam and Eve were the only two humans who ever walked the earth (except christ) who could walk into Gods presence. Because they he’d never sinned.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Do you see what I said as implying that he waits? I agree with you completely--an omnisicent, omnipotent, God needn't wait for humans to decide anything, in order for him to decide something. After all, it does also say that it is God who works in us both to will and to do according to his purposes.

Again he would not have to wait

An Omniscient omnipotent God can look at a group of people and immediately know who would freely and willfully do what he needs done. And he puts them in a place to do it.

He is glorified. And they are used mightily

Even evil people are put in place (I think of Pharoah who God raised up. Knowing he would do everything God needed him to do.

God does not need to over rule us and make us do things. If you want do it. He will just get someone he knows will

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

GOD causes us to learn. Didn't He cause Jonah to learn?

Proverbs 16
4The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Jonah still had to chose did he not?

yes. God caused Pharoah to be put in place. And made a fool of him. Because he would continue to strengthen Pharoahs will (harden his heart) in a way, in the end, Pharoah sent his army to their deaths in anger.

But God did nto cause Pharoah to reject God. And deny his miracles. That is all on Pharoah.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

If He elected some, He chose to not elect others. He's stronger than Satan. I want to know His reason.

Make sure you find the reason.

Many will say he had no reason. He just c hose person A and did nto chose Person B.

It is like a ruler has the power to send some to safety, or send them to a lake of fire. In which in either case. The soul will never die

So he goes down the line, You go to heaven, You go to hell. You 2 will go to heaven, You 3 you will go to hell. In the end, 80% of the people are sent to hell. And 20 percent are sent through the narrow gate to heaven.

I just ask myself. What kind of person would do this. Let alone, what kind of God would do this.

 

[Josheb]

Our dialog has, once again, reverted to the question of just what does the "freedom" the earlier Reformers intended concerning the will mean?

That is not what our conversation reverted to.

I do not care what the early Reformers said. I care what the Bible states and what logically sound inferences can be made based on what is stated when well-exegeted. I happen to be Reformed because what they taught happens to be the closest set of viewpoints and doctrines to well-rendered whole scripture. Our conversation reverted back to the recurring point of you thinking creation is and can only be a single set of cause-and-effects started by God and my disagreeing.

 

[makesends]

Again he would not have to wait

An Omniscient omnipotent God can look at a group of people and immediately know who would freely and willfully do what he needs done. And he puts them in a place to do it.

He is glorified. And they are used mightily

Even evil people are put in place (I think of Pharoah who God raised up. Knowing he would do everything God needed him to do.

God does not need to over rule us and make us do things. If you want do it. He will just get someone he knows will

You are still, by that order of events, making God the reactor and people the instigator of what happens. But God is first, not people. Logically, even if he does react, in an anthropomorphistic way of looking at it, it is because he planned it and knew all things intimately, before he even made them.

The logic that 'he made something that he did not know before making it', renders him less than omniscient and less than God.

 

[ElectedbyHim]

Thats ok

This is nonsensical.

I will be honest. It sounds like people are trying to keep their belief system in tact. So they have to make something up to make them feel better (I know this is most likely not what your doing, but thats the way it comes across every time I hear this said, and I have heard many times over many years.)

God is not limited by Human will. He is glorified in human will. We need to stop looking at God like we look at men. Men are not omniscient, Not even angels are omniscient. God works through human will. Jonah is a prime example. If Jonah had continued his unbelief and resistance. We never would have heard his name and God would have gotten someone else. Same with Abraham, Same with all the great leaders.

Israel is another example. God wanted to gather them together. But they were unwilling. Is God mocked Because Israel chose no? Of course not. He will be glorified. (Paul attempted to make this case in romans 9 - 11)



I am not a man pleaser either.

But when men ask why people believe the way they do. Then we must give an answer.

When people walk into a christian discussion or chatroom and see people going at each other. And they wonder why christians act the way they do. It gives God a bad name.



Mine is also.

I am not angry at God. I am saddened that people Make God out to be something he is not. But I am not angry. God does not need me to defend him. He is purely able to do that himself.

Could it be a pride thing for you that you can not see what others see. And ask yourself why?

When people start using these terms in a discussion, A red flag immediately goes up.

Anytime thanks your your time

I will be honest. It sounds like people are trying to keep their belief system in tact. So they have to make something up to make them feel better (I know this is most likely not what your doing, but thats the way it comes across every time I hear this said, and I have heard many times over many years.)

Yes, not my position.

The same could be said about your theology but we are just having a conversation with our differing views.

I do not base my theology on my sinful feelings and emotions, if I did I would be a Pentecostal/charismania.

God is not limited by Human will. He is glorified in human will. We need to stop looking at God like we look at men. Men are not omniscient, Not even angels are omniscient. God works through human will. Jonah is a prime example. If Jonah had continued his unbelief and resistance. We never would have heard his name and God would have gotten someone else. Same with Abraham, Same with all the great leaders.

The Lord is very far far being anything like wretched men.

God works through human will

The Lord enables humans to make choices and take actions that align with His will, of course this pertains to the regenerate, the unregenerate is at enmity with God.

Philippians 2:13 for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.

God who works in you. Although the believer is responsible to work (Php_2:12), the Lord actually produces the good works and spiritual fruit in the lives of believers (Joh_15:5; 1Co_12:6). This is accomplished because He works through us by His indwelling Spirit (Act_1:8; 1Co_3:16-17; 1Co_6:19-20; cf. Gal_3:3).

to will and to do. God energizes both the believer's desires and his actions. The Greek word for will indicates that He is not focusing on mere desires or whimsical emotions but on the studied intent to fulfill a planned purpose. God's power makes His church willing to live godly lives (cf. Psa_110:3).

good pleasure. God wants Christians to do what satisfies Him. Cf. Eph_1:5, Eph_1:9; 2Th_1:11.

I am not a man pleaser either. But when men ask why people believe the way they do. Then we must give an answer.

Agreed, although most of the time they will not like the answer.

Could it be a pride thing for you that you can not see what others see. And ask yourself why?
If it were my pride I would be telling you that my free will choices of doing good are from self. There is know way I could be defending God's sovereignty and giving Him all the credit.

Honestly, pride has a way of being so deceptive that sometimes it will make me think. Pride is a killer for certain.

Grace and peace to you.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

You are still, by that order of events, making God the reactor and people the instigator of what happens.

lol. And this is a bad thing?

Your still missing the point

God knew 100 years ago. He did not wait on anything.

But God is first, not people. Logically, even if he does react, in an anthropomorphistic way of looking at it, it is because he planned it and knew all things intimately, before he even made them.

God repented he made man..

The logic that 'he made something that he did not know before making it', renders him less than omniscient and less than God.

I agree. And I never said otherwise.

 

[makesends]

Thats ok

This is nonsensical.

I will be honest. It sounds like people are trying to keep their belief system in tact. So they have to make something up to make them feel better (I know this is most likely not what your doing, but thats the way it comes across every time I hear this said, and I have heard many times over many years.)

God is not limited by Human will. He is glorified in human will. We need to stop looking at God like we look at men. Men are not omniscient, Not even angels are omniscient. God works through human will. Jonah is a prime example. If Jonah had continued his unbelief and resistance. We never would have heard his name and God would have gotten someone else. Same with Abraham, Same with all the great leaders.

Israel is another example. God wanted to gather them together. But they were unwilling. Is God mocked Because Israel chose no? Of course not. He will be glorified. (Paul attempted to make this case in romans 9 - 11)



I am not a man pleaser either.

But when men ask why people believe the way they do. Then we must give an answer.

When people walk into a christian discussion or chatroom and see people going at each other. And they wonder why christians act the way they do. It gives God a bad name.



Mine is also.

I am not angry at God. I am saddened that people Make God out to be something he is not. But I am not angry. God does not need me to defend him. He is purely able to do that himself.

Could it be a pride thing for you that you can not see what others see. And ask yourself why?

When people start using these terms in a discussion, A red flag immediately goes up.

Anytime thanks your your time

Yes, not my position.

The same could be said about your theology but we are just having a conversation with our differing views.

I do not base my theology on my sinful feelings and emotions, if I did I would be a Pentecostal/charismania.


The Lord is very far far being anything like wretched men.


The Lord enables humans to make choices and take actions that align with His will, of course this pertains to the regenerate, the unregenerate is at enmity with God.

Philippians 2:13 for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.



Agreed, although most of the time they will not like the answer.



Honestly, pride has a way of being so deceptive that sometimes it will make me think. Pride is a killer for certain.

Grace and peace to you.

To whom are you responding here? I see no name, and it follows directly in line below my post.

 

[makesends]

lol. And this is a bad thing?

Well, yeah it is a bad thing. God is the only source of 'new'. God is first cause. We consider him to react to Jonah, but the very details of what happened were by God's decree, not by his command to Jonah and by Jonah's free will, nor by Ninevah's free will. No, I'm not talking about Robots.

Your still missing the point

God knew 100 years ago. He did not wait on anything.

I get your point. He knew from the very beginning. Yet, you have him determining what he will do according to what man decides. That is 'waiting'.

God repented he made man..

Original Word: נָחַם
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: nacham
Pronunciation: nah-kham'
Phonetic Spelling: (naw-kham')
Definition: To comfort, to repent, to relent, to be sorry
Meaning: to sigh, breathe strongly, to be sorry, to pity, console, rue, to avenge

Word Origin: A primitive root

Corresponding Greek / Hebrew Entries: - G3870 (parakaleo) - to call to one's side, to comfort, to exhort

The above, not to mention the rather obvious anthropomorphism.

makesends said:
The logic that 'he made something that he did not know before making it', renders him less than omniscient and less than God.

I agree. And I never said otherwise.

So can you not see he INTENDED whatever resulted from his creating? John 1, "All things were made by him..." intentionally. If he intended them, and caused them, they will happen and not by OUR changing anything. What will happen is all that will happen. There is no rogue decision on the part of self-willed beings.

 

[ElectedbyHim]

To whom are you responding here? I see no name, and it follows directly in line below my post.

Interesting.

I was replying to https://christcentered.community.fo...n-the-doctrine-of-god.2586/page-4#post-113738

Not certain why it did not reply to @Eternally-Grateful post.

Any way to incorporate it to that post?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

To whom are you responding here? I see no name, and it follows directly in line below my post.

I believe he was responding to me. But I have decided there are some things. its better to just walk away., so i did

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Well, yeah it is a bad thing. God is the only source of 'new'. God is first cause.

Did I say otherwise?

Are you even reading what I am saying?

We consider him to react to Jonah, but the very details of what happened were by God's decree, not by his command to Jonah and by Jonah's free will, nor by Ninevah's free will. No, I'm not talking about Robots.

Well by what you just wrote. Yeah, it does sound like your talking about robots..

I get your point. He knew from the very beginning. Yet, you have him determining what he will do according to what man decides. That is 'waiting'.

No. I have him determining what needs to be done. and knowing who and where he needs to put in place to get that job done..

Original Word: נָחַם
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: nacham
Pronunciation: nah-kham'
Phonetic Spelling: (naw-kham')
Definition: To comfort, to repent, to relent, to be sorry
Meaning: to sigh, breathe strongly, to be sorry, to pity, console, rue, to avenge

Word Origin: A primitive root

Corresponding Greek / Hebrew Entries: - G3870 (parakaleo) - to call to one's side, to comfort, to exhort

The above, not to mention the rather obvious anthropomorphism.

makesends said:
The logic that 'he made something that he did not know before making it', renders him less than omniscient and less than God.

So can you not see he INTENDED whatever resulted from his creating? John 1, "All things were made by him..." intentionally. If he intended them, and caused them, they will happen and not by OUR changing anything. What will happen is all that will happen. There is no rogue decision on the part of self-willed beings.

I see this.

If God caused all things

If everything is set in stone

If we have no freedom to chose. our destiny not only in what we do, but where we will end up is already set in stone (fatalism or as some call it double predestination)

Then we are in fact robots. And a God who calls himself a God of love (to me) would be a liar.

God sent the flood in Anger.. Its kind of Hard to say God is angry at people who did what he ordained or caused them to do.

 

[Arial]

If God caused all things

If everything is set in stone

If we have no freedom to chose. our destiny not only in what we do, but where we will end up is already set in stone (fatalism or as some call it double predestination)

Then we are in fact robots. And a God who calls himself a God of love (to me) would be a liar.

What if it is all for the glory of God?

And how does it make us robots? He didn't create us as robots but to glorify him and reflect his glory. Again you have an either or. Either we have "free will" to choose our destiny or we have no will.

Where does any "to me" belong in a sentence where one is discussing who God is? Especially when the "to me" declares if God is not a certain way "to me" then he is a liar and love is not one of his attributes. Wouldn't doing such a thing demonstrate an image of God being made, regardless of who he declares himself to be? One that is suitable "to me"? A place where there is no fear of God?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

What if it is all for the glory of God?

tell me, what Glory could any God get out of this?

And how does it make us robots? He didn't create us as robots but to glorify him and reflect his glory.

If you have no choice. if everythign you do is caused or ordained.

Then you are a robot. You have no freedom to chose.

Again you have an either or. Either we have "free will" to choose our destiny or we have no will.

Agree, you either have free will And can chose. or as you said, you have no will (robot)

Where does any "to me" belong in a sentence where one is discussing who God is?

Unlike some people. I do not attack or just come out and tell a person they are wrong.

If we are discussing the word. We should not discuss as proud, or arrogant thinking we know it all. We should discuss with humility.

So in doing so. I am sharing, to me this is what I see.

Especially when the "to me" declares if God is not a certain way "to me" then he is a liar and love is not one of his attributes. Wouldn't doing such a thing demonstrate an image of God being made, regardless of who he declares himself to be? One that is suitable "to me"? A place where there is no fear of God?

If everything you do is caused. If your eternity is set in stone. and there is nothing you can do about it. Then you have no ability to fear God.. The saved are saved, and have no fear

the lost are lost. and do not know they are lost. so they would have no fear.

fear would tend to lead them towards God and towards the truth..

But if you can not know.. then this would never happen

 

[ElectedbyHim]

What if it is all for the glory of God?

And how does it make us robots? He didn't create us as robots but to glorify him and reflect his glory. Again you have an either or. Either we have "free will" to choose our destiny or we have no will.

Where does any "to me" belong in a sentence where one is discussing who God is? Especially when the "to me" declares if God is not a certain way "to me" then he is a liar and love is not one of his attributes. Wouldn't doing such a thing demonstrate an image of God being made, regardless of who he declares himself to be? One that is suitable "to me"? A place where there is no fear of God?

Where does any "to me" belong in a sentence where one is discussing who God is? Especially when the "to me" declares if God is not a certain way "to me" then he is a liar and love is not one of his attributes.

This is what it comes down to.

Either we acknowledge the God of the Bible or we create one that aligns with our own making.

 

[Arial]

tell me, what Glory could any God get out of this?

So we don't lose track of what the "this" is, I will quote your post that it refers to.

If God caused all things

If everything is set in stone

If we have no freedom to chose. our destiny not only in what we do, but where we will end up is already set in stone (fatalism or as some call it double predestination)

Then we are in fact robots. And a God who calls himself a God of love (to me) would be a liar.

You stated something that isn't true but just your way of seeing things. This: If every thing is set in stone and we have no freedom to choose our destiny or what we do we are robots and God is a liar when he says he is love, is an incorrect conclusion of the biblical view of God in election and regeneration.

The glory God receives in redemption has nothing to do with our actions. It is power and his love and his justice being made known. It is "He shares his glory with no one." Man choosing his own destiny; man's choices being the determining factor in whether Christ's work is effectual for them; man adding anything to or taking anything away from God in redemption, is taking away some of his glory. In redemption his glory is seen in both redeeming and judging evil sinners. Justice does not take a back seat to love.

If you have no choice. if everythign you do is caused or ordained.

Then you are a robot. You have no freedom to chose.

Everything being caused and ordained by God does not mean man has no freedom to choose. He chooses according to his nature, which is sinful. That is why he won't choose Christ and cannot because he won't. Everyone is born in that condition. The elect he himself brings to Christ through regeneration. And I do not want to get into that discussion with you all over again. I will just say that if we are born unwilling and therefore unable to choose to believe, something has to change that, on the inside of us, and it has to be God as he is the only one who can do that. And with this inner change to our heart, comes faith. Believing that Jesus is who he says he is, did what he said he did, and in the way he said he did it. So God changes the elect for the sake of Christ, and does not change the rest. The first receives mercy, the second justice. Christ satisfied the justice against their sins, imputing his righteousness to them, and through that faith, which is a gift of God, they are justified before God.

Agree, you either have free will And can chose. or as you said, you have no will (robot)

Definition of a false dichotomy: A situation in which two alternative points of views are presented as the only options, whereas others are available.

There are other options available. If you have read any Reformed poster's posts on the subject, the other options have been given to you in many different threads and conversations. I do not have the time or patience to go through them here, plus it will throw the thread off topic, Although it has long been off topic, which is the Doctrine of God.

Unlike some people. I do not attack or just come out and tell a person they are wrong.

I ask a question. That is not attacking or telling you you are wrong. It is an opportunity to answer the question in your own words with your own ideas.

If we are discussing the word. We should not discuss as proud, or arrogant thinking we know it all. We should discuss with humility.

That is an accusation clearly visible behind the careful wording. If it is not, if it is just a statement of fact, how is it in any way related to the conversation. Take careful note all readers and lurkers. There was no excuse for this poster to go in this argumentative, rules violating, way whatsoever. He also failed to address the post and did this instead.

If everything you do is caused. If your eternity is set in stone. and there is nothing you can do about it. Then you have no ability to fear God.. The saved are saved, and have no fear

Nonsense. Your statement contradicts scripture which indicates there is something off about it.

the lost are lost. and do not know they are lost. so they would have no fear.

fear would tend to lead them towards God and towards the truth..

The Bible tells us the wicked (lost) have no fear of God in either sense of the word. That is the problem. That is why they cannot choose him. Terror of God would drive a person away from God, not towards him. And they have no reverence for him (the unregenerated sinner) or they would not be spitting in his face all the time. Someone once said, "You have to sit in God's lap to slap him."

 

[makesends]

Did I say otherwise?

Are you even reading what I am saying?

Well by what you just wrote. Yeah, it does sound like your talking about robots..

No. I have him determining what needs to be done. and knowing who and where he needs to put in place to get that job done..

I see this.

If God caused all things

If everything is set in stone

If we have no freedom to chose. our destiny not only in what we do, but where we will end up is already set in stone (fatalism or as some call it double predestination)

Then we are in fact robots. And a God who calls himself a God of love (to me) would be a liar.

God sent the flood in Anger.. Its kind of Hard to say God is angry at people who did what he ordained or caused them to do.

You equate God causing all things, logically necessarily implying that we have no freedom to choose. Depending on what you mean by 'freedom' in that phrase, that is faulty logic.

The mindset that puts us into God's economy of operation/existence, or God into ours, is, (yes), going to produce the conclusion that we are Robots, given the assumption that God caused all things. But that is a faulty mindset. --God is not like us, literally not. He is that much above us --infinitely above us-- he is of a different order, or kind, of thing from us, that for him to cause every most miniscule fact of this temporal universe, or even the arena of angels before this temporal universe, does not imply that he too answers to natural fact.

Even those Calvinists/Reformed who believe (ask @Josheb for a couple of post numbers) in some necessary semblance of 'semi-independence' of the human, do everything they can to deny that God is like us, or that he operates from anything (any place) our point-of-view can posit. (Take a look at "God's Attribute of Aseity". He is subject to nothing except himself.)

BTW, God's anger is not like ours. It is infinite, unlike ours, and it does not rule him though he says "it carries him", unlike how it our passions can run out of control. It is not hard for me to say that God's justice is brought against those who defy/rebel, because he is the one who invented and brought into existence and completed that very fact. It is, all of it, a result of God being the first cause. There is no logical escape from his being first cause.

 

[makesends]

So we don't lose track of what the "this" is, I will quote your post that it refers to.

You stated something that isn't true but just your way of seeing things. This: If every thing is set in stone and we have no freedom to choose our destiny or what we do we are robots and God is a liar when he says he is love, is an incorrect conclusion of the biblical view of God in election and regeneration.

The glory God receives in redemption has nothing to do with our actions. It is power and his love and his justice being made known. It is "He shares his glory with no one." Man choosing his own destiny; man's choices being the determining factor in whether Christ's work is effectual for them; man adding anything to or taking anything away from God in redemption, is taking away some of his glory. In redemption his glory is seen in both redeeming and judging evil sinners. Justice does not take a back seat to love.

Everything being caused and ordained by God does not mean man has no freedom to choose. He chooses according to his nature, which is sinful. That is why he won't choose Christ and cannot because he won't. Everyone is born in that condition. The elect he himself brings to Christ through regeneration. And I do not want to get into that discussion with you all over again. I will just say that if we are born unwilling and therefore unable to choose to believe, something has to change that, on the inside of us, and it has to be God as he is the only one who can do that. And with this inner change to our heart, comes faith. Believing that Jesus is who he says he is, did what he said he did, and in the way he said he did it. So God changes the elect for the sake of Christ, and does not change the rest. The first receives mercy, the second justice. Christ satisfied the justice against their sins, imputing his righteousness to them, and through that faith, which is a gift of God, they are justified before God.

Definition of a false dichotomy: A situation in which two alternative points of views are presented as the only options, whereas others are available.

There are other options available. If you have read any Reformed poster's posts on the subject, the other options have been given to you in many different threads and conversations. I do not have the time or patience to go through them here, plus it will throw the thread off topic, Although it has long been off topic, which is the Doctrine of God.

I ask a question. That is not attacking or telling you you are wrong. It is an opportunity to answer the question in your own words with your own ideas.

That is an accusation clearly visible behind the careful wording. If it is not, if it is just a statement of fact, how is it in any way related to the conversation. Take careful note all readers and lurkers. There was no excuse for this poster to go in this argumentative, rules violating, way whatsoever. He also failed to address the post and did this instead.

Nonsense. Your statement contradicts scripture which indicates there is something off about it.

The Bible tells us the wicked (lost) have no fear of God in either sense of the word. That is the problem. That is why they cannot choose him. Terror of God would drive a person away from God, not towards him. And they have no reverence for him (the unregenerated sinner) or they would not be spitting in his face all the time. Someone once said, "You have to sit in God's lap to slap him."

Might be worth starting a thread (though it has been done before) on assumptions of the synergist's philosophy/mind/mindset, such as that the command implies the ability to obey, and that God being just implies that he would not punish creatures for doing what he planned all along that they would do, and inviting @Eternally-Grateful to it.

I have too much to do at present to gather a list.