The Heresy of Modalism

[Carbon]

The Heresy of Modalism

Modalism is a theological heresy that denies the Trinitarian doctrine of God as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, in one essence.
Instead, Modalism teaches that God is one person who manifests or appears in three different modes or forms, that is, sometimes as the Father, sometimes as the Son, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit.

So, Modalism emphasizes the unity of God to the exclusion of the distinct persons. It presents God as one person who simply changes masks.


One modern-day example of Modalism is "Oneness Pentecostalism.


https://www.monergism.com/modalism

 

[JesusFan]

The Heresy of Modalism

Modalism is a theological heresy that denies the Trinitarian doctrine of God as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, in one essence.
Instead, Modalism teaches that God is one person who manifests or appears in three different modes or forms, that is, sometimes as the Father, sometimes as the Son, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit.

So, Modalism emphasizes the unity of God to the exclusion of the distinct persons. It presents God as one person who simply changes masks.


One modern-day example of Modalism is "Oneness Pentecostalism.


https://www.monergism.com/modalism

Interesting cult, for usually its the denial of Jesus as God, but their issue is they accept Jesus as God, but not the Trinity

 

[CrowCross]

The Heresy of Modalism

Modalism is a theological heresy that denies the Trinitarian doctrine of God as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, in one essence.
Instead, Modalism teaches that God is one person who manifests or appears in three different modes or forms, that is, sometimes as the Father, sometimes as the Son, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit.

So, Modalism emphasizes the unity of God to the exclusion of the distinct persons. It presents God as one person who simply changes masks.


One modern-day example of Modalism is "Oneness Pentecostalism.


https://www.monergism.com/modalism

They have problems when they try to explain away God the Son standing in the water when God the Holy Spirit is seen as a dove and God the Father speaks from heaven.

All 3 are presented as the same time. No mask change.

 

[JesusFan]

They have problems when they try to explain away God the Son standing in the water when God the Holy Spirit is seen as a dove and God the Father speaks from heaven.

All 3 are presented as the same time. No mask change.

And just to whom was Jesus speaking to in the garden then?

 

[mailmandan]

The Heresy of Modalism

Modalism is a theological heresy that denies the Trinitarian doctrine of God as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, in one essence.
Instead, Modalism teaches that God is one person who manifests or appears in three different modes or forms, that is, sometimes as the Father, sometimes as the Son, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit.

So, Modalism emphasizes the unity of God to the exclusion of the distinct persons. It presents God as one person who simply changes masks.


One modern-day example of Modalism is "Oneness Pentecostalism.


https://www.monergism.com/modalism

On a different Christian forum, I have run into a few Oneness folks who subscribe to Modalism, which is heresy. Two of these folks are Oneness Pentecostals and the other attends the Fist Apostolic Pentecostal church. All three of these folks are constantly promoting their false gospel, emphasizing a single God manifested as Jesus Christ, (non-Trinitarian) and requires water baptism in Jesus' name (only valid formula) and baptism of the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues as all necessary for salvation. (Galatians 1:6-9)

 

[Arial]

The Heresy of Modalism

Modalism is a theological heresy that denies the Trinitarian doctrine of God as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, in one essence.
Instead, Modalism teaches that God is one person who manifests or appears in three different modes or forms, that is, sometimes as the Father, sometimes as the Son, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit.

So, Modalism emphasizes the unity of God to the exclusion of the distinct persons. It presents God as one person who simply changes masks.


One modern-day example of Modalism is "Oneness Pentecostalism.


https://www.monergism.com/modalism

If Modalism were correct, when Jesus prayed to the Father wouldn't he actually be praying to himself as Unitarians falsely claim is true of the Trinity?

 

[JesusFan]

On a different Christian forum, I have run into a few Oneness folks who subscribe to Modalism, which is heresy. Two of these folks are Oneness Pentecostals and the other attends the Fist Apostolic Pentecostal church. All three of these folks are constantly promoting their false gospel, emphasizing a single God manifested as Jesus Christ, (non-Trinitarian) and requires water baptism in Jesus' name (only valid formula) and baptism of the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues as all necessary for salvation. (Galatians 1:6-9)

Those doctrines would certainly place them outside of Christianity, and into he realm of the JW, Mormon churches, as they have another Jesus and another Gospel
What is sad is a known Modualist such as a TD jakes gains so much traction as being legit in certain circles

 

[JesusFan]

On a different Christian forum, I have run into a few Oneness folks who subscribe to Modalism, which is heresy. Two of these folks are Oneness Pentecostals and the other attends the Fist Apostolic Pentecostal church. All three of these folks are constantly promoting their false gospel, emphasizing a single God manifested as Jesus Christ, (non-Trinitarian) and requires water baptism in Jesus' name (only valid formula) and baptism of the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues as all necessary for salvation. (Galatians 1:6-9)

Have had some explain it to me that they hold to the deity of Jesus was in heaven talking to the Humanity of Himself that was in human flesh then

 

[Carbon]

On a different Christian forum, I have run into a few Oneness folks who subscribe to Modalism, which is heresy. Two of these folks are Oneness Pentecostals and the other attends the Fist Apostolic Pentecostal church. All three of these folks are constantly promoting their false gospel, emphasizing a single God manifested as Jesus Christ, (non-Trinitarian) and requires water baptism in Jesus' name (only valid formula) and baptism of the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues as all necessary for salvation. (Galatians 1:6-9)

Yes, I know of a few in my area as well.

 

[JesusFan]

Yes, I know of a few in my area as well.

Remember when a friend of mine told me was now a Christian, and went to his new church, and he was reading a book with title, 'was Jesus in the Godhead, or was the Godhead in Jesus?" That Pastor also wanted to dunk me in the tub to have me gte the "proper water baptism"

 

[Carbon]

Remember when a friend of mine told me was now a Christian, and went to his new church, and he was reading a book with title, 'was Jesus in the Godhead, or was the Godhead in Jesus?" That Pastor also wanted to dunk me in the tub to have me gte the "proper water baptism"

That's pretty sad.

 

[JesusFan]

That's pretty sad.

And they wanted me to speak forth in tongues after tub water baptism, as by having the 'right baptism" would produce tongues to show was now really saved

 

[atpollard]

If Modalism were correct, when Jesus prayed to the Father wouldn't he actually be praying to himself as Unitarians falsely claim is true of the Trinity?

Don't we Trinitarians still have that same paradox as the FULLY MAN "Jesus" prays for "another way" and the FULLY GOD "Jesus" prays "your will be done" and "I have the power to lay down my life and take it back up" (paraphrased).

 

[Arial]

Don't we Trinitarians still have that same paradox as the FULLY MAN "Jesus" prays for "another way" and the FULLY GOD "Jesus" prays "your will be done" and "I have the power to lay down my life and take it back up" (paraphrased).

No, we don't have that paradox. Unitarians say we have that paradox. As fully man as well as fully God, Jesus, as man, willingly subjugated himself to the Father in the same way that we are subjugated to him. It was as one of us that he prayed to the Father. It has been said, and I agree, that in doing this he also gave us the covenant name of God as Father. He becomes a Father to us, his adopted children. It is the fully man always praying, it is the fully God who always knows his will.

 

[JesusFan]

Don't we Trinitarians still have that same paradox as the FULLY MAN "Jesus" prays for "another way" and the FULLY GOD "Jesus" prays "your will be done" and "I have the power to lay down my life and take it back up" (paraphrased).

Except the Father is another real Person

 

[atpollard]

Except the Father is another real Person

Isn’t that the definition of “polytheism”?
(Pushing the “individuality” too far at the expense of “one God”)

 

[JesusFan]

Isn’t that the definition of “polytheism”?
(Pushing the “individuality” too far at the expense of “one God”)

God is One Being, by within that Being eternally exists 3 persons