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ON THE LAW OF GOD PART 1

So, Jesus DID change the original Law God commanded His people of loving fellow Covenant members to now include those NOT in Covenant with God?
That's what you're saying?
I am saying that as divine Lawgiver,
he gave new law, as in Mt 5:21, 27, 31, 33, 38, 43,
abolished old law (Eph 2:15) of sacrifices, defilements, cleansings, feasts, etc. on the cross,
made the old (Mosaic covenant) obsolete (Heb 8:13), and
summed up the Decalogue in one rule (Mt 22:40); i,e., he who loves has fulfilled the law (Ro 13:9).
 
One more time.
The Law is type and shadow of the Holy Spirit.
HE is the Law God Promised to put inside us.

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jer. 31:33–34.

Those whose names are not in the book of life do not receive this "law/Holy Spirit" in their hearts God Promised His people.
Now this I understand. And it would be a wonderful thing to me if the Holy Spirit was a little more aggressive in the lives of believers.
 
What call?

Are you or are you not saved and a member of the Body of Christ?
Every born-again believer is Holy Spirit baptized INTO the Body of Christ.
This is what Paul is saying here:

14 For the body is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19 And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: 23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: 25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. 1 Cor. 12:14–27.

The Five-Fold Ministry of God are the five digits in the hand of God: apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, and teacher. Christ is apostle not the man or woman. Christ is prophet not the man or woman. Christ is the evangelist not the man or woman. Christ is pastor/shepherd not the man or woman. Christ is teacher not the man or woman. Many parts in the Body of Christ. Then there are the spiritual gifts God gives the person to accomplish your calling.

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 1 Cor. 12:8–11.

Also:
4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; 7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; 8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness. Rom. 12:4–8.

And this list is not exhaustive. Basically, all believers saved by God have a place in the Body of Christ and spiritual gifts (as above) that help them accomplish that call. Consider: the heart has a place in the body. It pumps blood. That function is not given to the brain. The brain is a part of the body but it does not function to pump blood.
Consider: twelve apostles. The apostle corresponds to the thumb in the hand of God. BUT, each apostle of the Lamb had various spiritual gifts to accomplish their call as apostle. Peter was apostle and let's say for the sake of argument his spiritual gifts were "discerning of spirits and prophecy, while Paul was apostle with the spiritual gifts of word of knowledge, word of wisdom, tongues, interpretation of tongues, and prophecy. Some believers in the Body of Christ have at least ONE spiritual gift and some have more depending on the God that graced them with their gifts.

Example:
Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. Acts 13:1-2.

Q: How did the Holy Ghost communicate to the believers He wanted Barnabas and aul "to the work have called them?"
A: Through the gift of prophecy (most likely through the prophet in this fellowship as they had 'church.')

Then, there was a period of time to pray and fast and again the Holy Ghost confirmed His earlier speaking (prophecy) to separate Barnabas and Saul.

3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. 4 So they, being sent forth by the Holy Ghost, departed unto Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus. Acts 13:3–4.

Through knowledge and experience are these gifts of God exercised and matured. But one MUST be in a church where these gifts are exercised and experienced. Just like the Church at Antioch.

The belief that ALL apostles have to have seen Jesus personally and have the ability to do miracles is to put God in a box. We are NOT ALL apostles. We do NOT ALL have the same spiritual gifts. So, the instruction to "preach the gospel" as given by Christ in Matthew 28:19-20 was given specifically to the eleven (and earlier, to the twelve Matt. 10.) Remember the context. An evangelist 'preaches the gospel,' and we are NOT ALL evangelists. An apostle is merely one who is sent. OK. Sent to do what for God? That's the question. It varies. And an apostle does not all have the same spiritual gift to accomplish that call of being sent.
Are you getting any of this?
So, if you are a believer in Christ, you have a place in the Body of Christ and at least ONE spiritual gift to accomplish that place and call in the Body. So, where is your place in the Body of Christ and what are your spiritual gift(s) to accomplish that call? It's apparent you don't know. As with every believer who doesn't KNOW their place in the Body or their spiritual gift(s) they like ships without a rudder and most likely mimicking and copying someone else's place and gifts in the Body
Are you sure about that?
Jn 7:24.
since the teaching in the Church is that WE ARE ALL supposed to "preach the gospel" Again, we are not all evangelists. We all have a place in the Body and possess at least one spiritual gift to serve God.
I'll stop here.
Relevance?
 
If you want to stay ignorant about the LIFE OF CHRIST IN HIS PEOPLE that's OK with me. I'm not the Holy Spirit. I DON'T change hearts and minds.
Nor do you understand Scripture in light of all itself, making your understanding incomplete and inadequate.
 
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Mt 5:17–18.

The Law Jesus Christ is referring to is the Law of God contained in the Pentateuch, the Five Books from Genesis to Deuteronomy.

Question #1. Do you agree?

Question #2 Do you also agree that any change in the Law of God destroys the Law of God?
My answer is this, Jesus Christ was asked the question, what was the greatest commandment, the reply Jesus gave summed up what always was and always will be the essence of true worship. He quoted Deuteronomy 6:5, Jesus said: “‘You must love YHWH your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment.” Though Jesus was asked for just one commandment, Jesus gave him another. Quoting from Leviticus 19:18, he said: “The second, like it, is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’” Jesus said the whole law hanged upon these two commandments.

The thing we must understand about the law is God never stated that the obedience of a law in the law covenan could save us. If that were the case then Jesus would not have needed to come and sacrifice his life for us. What Jesus said about love for God has always been true, right from the start in the garden of Eden. If Adam had loved God as he should have loved him, then he never would have eaten of the forbidden tree. The truth is the way we will be saved is if we love God so much that we will exercise faith in him. We will have faith that what the True God YHWH says is in our best interest to do(good) is true and we will obey because of our love for God so we will know the True God YHWH would never command us to do something that would harm us, because of our love him so have faith that God loved us first and has always had loved us, and so he would never command us to do something that wasn't in our best interest to do.
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil has always represented the True God's sovereignty or rulership. In other words because the True God YHWH is the creator of all things and the source of all life only he knows what is in the best interests(good) of what he created, and only he knows what's not in the best interests(evil) of what he created. So we will be obedient to the True God about what he says is good for human beings, or what is evil for human beings in how they should behave toward God and toward one another because of our love for him. Obedient to the True God YHWH because of our love for the him and only because of our love for him, has always been a requirement for his creation.
 
If Adam had loved God as he should have loved him, then he never would have eaten of the forbidden tree.
Adam knew nothing about love. How could he experience something that God never gave him [possessive]. Adam was created sin-ful. There is only One God, there is NONE like Him, and He gives His glory to NO ONE.

27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. Jn 3:27.

Adam possessed a sin-ful dirt-human nature. Love and everything about Adam were marred and corrupt. Adam possessed none of the nature or attributes of God.
The truth is the way we will be saved is if we love God so much that we will exercise faith in him. We will have faith that what the True God YHWH says is in our best interest to do(good) is true and we will obey because of our love for God so we will know the True God YHWH would never command us to do something that would harm us, because of our love him so have faith that God loved us first and has always had loved us, and so he would never command us to do something that wasn't in our best interest to do.
NO MAN loves God. True love is from above, not below. And no man can love God unless God first love them and in that love is the giving of Christ. AND THEN can a saved man love God. But not before salvation.
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil has always represented the True God's sovereignty or rulership. In other words because the True God YHWH is the creator of all things and the source of all life only he knows what is in the best interests(good) of what he created, and only he knows what's not in the best interests(evil) of what he created. So we will be obedient to the True God about what he says is good for human beings, or what is evil for human beings in how they should behave toward God and toward one another because of our love for him. Obedient to the True God YHWH because of our love for the him and only because of our love for him, has always been a requirement for his creation.
NO MAN loves God. True love is from above, not below. And no man can love God unless God first love them and in that love is the giving of Christ. AND THEN can a saved man love God. But not before salvation.
 
Adam knew nothing about love. How could he experience something that God never gave him [possessive]. Adam was created sin-ful.
And yet God thought he was very good? (Ge 1:31)?

God thinks sinful is good?

Not in my Bible.
 
And yet God thought he was very good? (Ge 1:31)?

God thinks sinful is good?

Not in my Bible.
The word "good" has nothing to do with "morality." That's another word and it is not here.

The word "good" in the Genesis creation means "good [enough]" or "to specifications."
 
The word "good" has nothing to do with "morality." That's another word and it is not here.

The word "good" in the Genesis creation means "good [enough]" or "to specifications."
Created in sin was part of the specification?

I think not.
 
Created in sin was part of the specification?

I think not.
There is only ONE God.
God gives His glory to NO ONE.
There is NONE like Him.
God did not copy, pass on, or reduplicate Himself in Adam.

Adam sinned. Sin comes from sinner.

13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked: 1 Sam. 24:13.
Created in sin was part of the specification?

I think not.
There is only ONE God.
There is none like Him.
He gives His glory to no one.

God did not create Adam holy, or righteous, or innocent, or neutral.
Adam sinned. Sin comes from sinner.
Sin does not come from holy.

1 Samuel 24:13 (KJV) 13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked:
 
There is only ONE God.
God gives His glory to NO ONE.
There is NONE like Him.
God did not copy, pass on, or reduplicate Himself in Adam.
Adam was created in God's own image, on the pattern of God, with a spirit, as God is spirit. Image is not identical or duplicate, it is a resemblance, containong some of the same features--rationality, spirit, morality, ability to love, etc.
Adam was created in righteousness, holiness and knowledge of God (Eph 4:24, Col 3:10), on the pattern of God, not identical to God.
Adam sinned. Sin comes from sinner.
Adam was not sinner until he sinned.
And after he sinned (Ge 3:6-7), he was still patterned on God (Ge 9:6).
 
Adam was created in God's own image, on the pattern of God, with a spirit, as God is spirit. Image is not identical or duplicate, it is a resemblance, containong some of the same features--rationality, spirit, morality, ability to love, etc.
Adam was created in righteousness, holiness and knowledge of God (Eph 4:24, Col 3:10), on the pattern of God, not identical to God.

Adam was not sinner until he sinned.
And after he sinned (Ge 3:6-7), he was still patterned on God (Ge 9:6).
IF Adam was created holy and righteous he would fall short of the glory of God. The word for that is sin-ful.
There's ONLY ONE PERSON that can stand before a Holy God and that is a Holy Son.

IF Adam was holy and righteous and he sinned then the conclusion is sin comes from holy and righteous.

You ignore 1 Sam. 24:13 that states that wickedness comes from wicked. Adam sinned.
IF Adam was holy and righteous, he would fall short of the glory that is God for Adam was not Almighty, All-knowing, Omniscient, All wise, and all the other deific attributes of God.

The word sin in KJV means 'harmatia" "to miss the mark." (think archery.) Adam was created "missing the mark" of the glory of God.
He was created from dirt. The image of God is Christ, not Adam. There is no better image of a Father than a Son.
But you want to ascribe Deific Attributes to Adam but merely being holy or righteous he still lacks the Deific Attributes of God and this results in him "missing the mark" of the glory of God. Only the Son can stand before a Holy and Righteous God.
But you've never thought of this before. That's OK.
The word is "harmatia" or as it is translated: sin or sin-ful.

IF Adam was holy and righteous as you say then sin comes from holy and righteous.
With that thinking I must ask: God is Holy and Righteous. HOW LONG before God sin since you believe sin comes from holy and righteous.
Christ was Holy and Righteous. The last Adam did not sin.
Where's your reasoning?
 
IF Adam was created holy and righteous he would fall short of the glory of God. The word for that is sin-ful.
When did holy, righteous and knowledge of God fall short of the glory of God?
There's ONLY ONE PERSON that can stand before a Holy God and that is a Holy Son.

IF Adam was holy and righteous and he sinned then the conclusion is sin comes from holy and righteous.
You ignore 1 Sam. 24:13 that states that wickedness comes from wicked. Adam sinned.
IF Adam was holy and righteous, he would fall short of the glory that is God for Adam was not Almighty, All-knowing, Omniscient, All wise, and all the other deific attributes of God.

The word sin in KJV means 'harmatia" "to miss the mark." (think archery.) Adam was created "missing the mark" of the glory of God.
He was created from dirt. The image of God is Christ, not Adam. There is no better image of a Father than a Son.
But you want to ascribe Deific Attributes to Adam but merely being holy or righteous he still lacks the Deific Attributes of God and this results in him "missing the mark" of the glory of God. Only the Son can stand before a Holy and Righteous God.
But you've never thought of this before. That's OK.
The word is "harmatia" or as it is translated: sin or sin-ful.
IF Adam was holy and righteous as you say then sin comes from holy and righteous.
With that thinking I must ask: God is Holy and Righteous. HOW LONG before God sin since you believe sin comes from holy and righteous.
Christ was Holy and Righteous. The last Adam did not sin.
Where's your reasoning?
No, the conclusion comes from the nature God created in the creature; i.e., able to choose rightly (according to God's law, Ge 2:17), or wrongly (according to Satan's word). The angels had the same ability, just without bodies.
 
When did holy, righteous and knowledge of God fall short of the glory of God?


No, the conclusion comes from the nature God created in the creature; i.e., able to choose rightly (according to God's law, Ge 2:17), or wrongly (according to Satan's word). The angels had the same ability, just without bodies.
God created Adam sin-ful "missing the mark" (of the glory of God.)
That's the only way God can create him (man). There is only ONE God, there is NONE like Him (not even Adam), and God gives His glory to NO ONE.
Since Adam was not holy or righteous his choice to disobey God makes sense as sin comes from sinner.
When you hold that it is sin that makes one a sinner instead of a sinner that sins you destroy the Doctrine of Imputation for it was not sinful acts Christ died for (you believe sin makes one a sinner), but the sinful nature of God's elect.

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses [acts of sin] unto them; 2 Cor. 5:19.

21 For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2 Cor. 5:20–21. [italics added by translators].

It was a nature swap. Sin-ful created nature for Christ's righteous nature. Now you have justification and sanctification.

Christ didn't die for the acts of sin as you believe, He died for the sinful nature of His elect.

It doesn't say, "For he hath made him to be sin-ful acts for us, who knew no sin-ful acts; that we might be made the righteous acts of God in him.

God created Adam sin-ful, that is, "missing the mark" [sin-ful] of the glory of God for that is the ONLY WAY God can create him.
Adam sinned because he was a sinner. He is not a sinner because he sinned.
 
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