ON THE LAW OF GOD PART 1

[jeremiah1five]

Plus you have evil existing prefall and God creating evil . Wow to those who call evil good. Everything God created was good, not evil and corrupt .

7 I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil:
I the LORD do all these things.
Is 45:7.

Out of the mouth of babes.

 

[civic]

You refuse to understand that sin comes from sinner.
God created Adam sinful, that is, "missing the mark" [of the glory of God.
Adam wasn't neutral.
Adam wasn't incorrupt but corruptible.
Adam wasn't holy.
Adam wasn't righteous.
Adam was created fallen short of the glory of God.
The word is "sin-ful."
Adam sinned because he was a sinner.
Adame was a sinner like the rest of us who are His elect saved by the grace of God.

And yes, Scripture is not silent and DOES speak to this issue:

13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked: 1 Sam. 24:12–13.

God did not create adam sinful. That is your false presupposition.

Quote the verse

 

[civic]

7 I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil:
I the LORD do all these things.
Is 45:7.

Out of the mouth of babes.

Out of Scripture !!!!!!!!

If everything God created was good (Genesis 1:31; 1 Timothy 4:4; James 1:17), why does Isaiah 45:7 say God created evil? The Hebrew word translated as “evil” (ra‘) in the King James Version of Isaiah 45:7 has two applications in the Bible. The term can be used in the sense of moral evil, such as wickedness and sin (Matthew 12:35; Judges 3:12; Proverbs 8:13; 3 John 1:11), or it can refer to harmful natural events, calamity, misfortune, adversity, affliction, or disaster. It is in this second sense that Isaiah speaks, and his meaning is reflected in most modern Bible translations of Isaiah 45:7 (emphasis added): “I make success and create disaster” (HCSB); “I make well-being and create calamity” (ESV); “I send good times and bad times” (NLT).

God does not create moral evil. For one thing, moral evil is not a “thing” to be made but a choice or intent contrary to God’s good purposes, His holy character, and His law. Moral evil does not conform to God and His will. God is good (Psalm 34:8), holy (Leviticus 11:44; Isaiah 6:3; 1 Peter 1:16), and loving (1 John 4:8); therefore, His plans and purposes are good, holy, and loving.got?

hope this helps !!!

 

[jeremiah1five]

God did not create adam sinful. That is your false presupposition.

Quote the verse

We don't find a verse that God is a Trinity until the Advent of the Son.
God controls the Light each generation of believers receive.
God takes us from glory to glory but not all in one day.
But we do find a verse in which it is said "wickedness proceedeth from the wicked" 1 Sam. 24:13).

I've posted it several times but because it is firm foundation for my understanding on Adam and it refutes your own you ignore it.
But men have that convenience.

 

[civic]

We don't find a verse that God is a Trinity until the Advent of the Son.
God controls the Light each generation of believers receive.
God takes us from glory to glory but not all in one day.
But we do find a verse in which it is said "wickedness proceedeth from the wicked" 1 Sam. 24:13).

I've posted it several times but because it is firm foundation for my understanding on Adam and it refutes your own you ignore it.
But men have that convenience.

Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Out of Scripture !!!!!!!!

If everything God created was good (Genesis 1:31; 1 Timothy 4:4; James 1:17), why does Isaiah 45:7 say God created evil? The Hebrew word translated as “evil” (ra‘) in the King James Version of Isaiah 45:7 has two applications in the Bible. The term can be used in the sense of moral evil, such as wickedness and sin (Matthew 12:35; Judges 3:12; Proverbs 8:13; 3 John 1:11), or it can refer to harmful natural events, calamity, misfortune, adversity, affliction, or disaster. It is in this second sense that Isaiah speaks, and his meaning is reflected in most modern Bible translations of Isaiah 45:7 (emphasis added): “I make success and create disaster” (HCSB); “I make well-being and create calamity” (ESV); “I send good times and bad times” (NLT).

God does not create moral evil. For one thing, moral evil is not a “thing” to be made but a choice or intent contrary to God’s good purposes, His holy character, and His law. Moral evil does not conform to God and His will. God is good (Psalm 34:8), holy (Leviticus 11:44; Isaiah 6:3; 1 Peter 1:16), and loving (1 John 4:8); therefore, His plans and purposes are good, holy, and loving.got?

hope this helps !!!

The Hebrew word translated as “evil” (ra‘) in the King James Version of Isaiah 45:7 has two applications in the Bible.

It means both. God is Sovereign. Everything evil is commanded by God. It was His will to create a man out of dirt. Adam ate from the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil. The Tree didn't make him evil. It gave him the KNOWLEDGE of evil. There was no poison in the fruit. It didn't change his human nature of composition. It was a mind-meld. By his disobedience he through God understood the evil of his act and God proceeded accordingly.

You believe in the reprobation of man. However, your belief is that sin is an act, not a nature. Did Jesus die for the sin-ful acts of His people and did we receive/imputed His righteous acts, or did He die for our fallen, sinful nature and we are imputed His Righteous nature. Peter agrees it was His Divine nature imputed to His people.
ALL that God does is in accordance to His good pleasure.

If God just up and created a sinful being as a Righteous God this would impugn His character.
But before God created a sinful being a lamb was slain from the foundation of the world.
Why?
So that a Righteous God could create an unrighteous being.

Since there is ONLY ONE God, there is NONE like Him, and He gives His glory to NO ONE, what does that leave Adam?
Less than God.
This means "missing the mark" of the glory of God.
The KJV word "harmatia" is translated "sin."
Adam was created "missing the mark" of the glory of God BECAUSE there is ONLY ONE GOD.
If Adam possessed any one attribute of Deity he would by necessity MUST possess ALL attributes of Diety or he would fall short of the glory of God. That word is "harmatia"/sin.
The ONLY PERSON that can stand before a Holy God is a Holy Son and Holy Spirit.
EVERYONE ELSE falls short.
Adam sinned because he was a sinner. He is not a sinner because he sinned.

 

[civic]

The Hebrew word translated as “evil” (ra‘) in the King James Version of Isaiah 45:7 has two applications in the Bible.

It means both. God is Sovereign. Everything evil is commanded by God. It was His will to create a man out of dirt. Adam ate from the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil. The Tree didn't make him evil. It gave him the KNOWLEDGE of evil. There was no poison in the fruit. It didn't change his human nature of composition. It was a mind-meld. By his disobedience he through God understood the evil of his act and God proceeded accordingly.

You believe in the reprobation of man. However, your belief is that sin is an act, not a nature. Did Jesus die for the sin-ful acts of His people and did we receive/imputed His righteous acts, or did He die for our fallen, sinful nature and we are imputed His Righteous nature. Peter agrees it was His Divine nature imputed to His people.
ALL that God does is in accordance to His good pleasure.

If God just up and created a sinful being as a Righteous God this would impugn His character.
But before God created a sinful being a lamb was slain from the foundation of the world.
Why?
So that a Righteous God could create an unrighteous being.

Since there is ONLY ONE God, there is NONE like Him, and He gives His glory to NO ONE, what does that leave Adam?
Less than God.
This means "missing the mark" of the glory of God.
The KJV word "harmatia" is translated "sin."
Adam was created "missing the mark" of the glory of God BECAUSE there is ONLY ONE GOD.
If Adam possessed any one attribute of Deity he would by necessity MUST possess ALL attributes of Diety or he would fall short of the glory of God. That word is "harmatia"/sin.
The ONLY PERSON that can stand before a Holy God is a Holy Son and Holy Spirit.
EVERYONE ELSE falls short.
Adam sinned because he was a sinner. He is not a sinner because he sinned.

a human philosophical argument as per Colossians 2:8.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

I am calling evil evil and good good.
I am calling light light and darkness darkness.
I am calling bitter bitter and sweet sweet.
And Scripture says God created evil. I see the same Jesus of the Scripture and say the same thing as God.
To do otherwise is to OPPOSE God.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

I am calling evil evil and good good.
I am calling light light and darkness darkness.
I am calling bitter bitter and sweet sweet.
And Scripture says God created evil. I see the same Jesus of the Scripture and say the same thing as God.
To do otherwise is to OPPOSE God.

 

[civic]

I am calling evil evil and good good.
I am calling light light and darkness darkness.
I am calling bitter bitter and sweet sweet.
And Scripture says God created evil. I see the same Jesus of the Scripture and say the same thing as God.
To do otherwise is to OPPOSE God.

no you are calling Gods good creation evil.

 

[jeremiah1five]

no you are calling Gods good creation evil.

Everything God created degenerates. It's called the Law of entropy. Everything degenerates into chaos.
From the moment God created the earth and the stars and everything in the universe it began its eventual decay for ONLY GOD IS ETERNAL.
God's "good" creation as the word is defined was created "good enough" and "to specification" according to God's purpose.

 

[Eleanor]

You refuse to understand that sin comes from sinner.
God created Adam sinful, that is, "missing the mark" [of the glory of God.
Adam wasn't neutral.
Adam wasn't incorrupt but corruptible.
Adam wasn't holy.
Adam wasn't righteous.
Adam was created fallen short of the glory of God.
The word is "sin-ful."
Adam sinned because he was a sinner.
Adame was a sinner like the rest of us who are His elect saved by the grace of God.

And yes, Scripture is not silent and DOES speak to this issue:

13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked: 1 Sam. 24:12–13.

You refuse to understand that Adam was created incorrupt and corruptible, but not corrupt.
He did that on his own.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You refuse to understand that Adam was created incorrupt and corruptible, but not corrupt.
He did that on his own.

You refuse to understand that Adam was created incorrupt and corruptible, but not corrupt.
He did that on his own.

Which is it?
It was the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil, not the Tree of Incorrupt and Corruptible, which is word games.
Follow the Scripture. Don't change it to suit your beliefs.
Be honest with Scripture.

Where did sin come from?
Good or evil?

 

[jeremiah1five]

God did not create adam sinful. That is your false presupposition.

Quote the verse

Paul argues that subject:

7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. Rom. 7:7–10.

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen. 2:17.

I come to the knowledge of the truth through studying Scripture under the anointing as per my call and gifts in the Body.
I am necessary. I am what I am.

Paul doesn't say he had to sin but that merely when the commandment came, sin revived, and he died. The command of THOU SHALT NOT in the Garden to Adam shows he was a sinner before he sinned as it is proven personally with Paul in his words.

 

[Eleanor]

Which is it?
It was the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil, not the Tree of Incorrupt and Corruptible, which is word games.
Follow the Scripture. Don't change it to suit your beliefs.
Be honest with Scripture.

Where did sin come from?
Good or evil?

He was incorrupt (without sin) and corruptible (ability to sine before he ate of the tree of knowledge.

 

[Eleanor]

Paul argues that subject:

7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. Rom. 7:7–10.

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen. 2:17.

I come to the knowledge of the truth through studying Scripture under the anointing as per my call and gifts in the Body.
I am necessary. I am what I am.

Paul doesn't say he had to sin but that merely when the commandment came, sin revived, and he died. The command of THOU SHALT NOT in the Garden to Adam shows he was a sinner before he sinned as it is proven personally with Paul in his words.

Paul and Adam did not originate in the same way.

Adam descended from no one from whom he could have inherited a nature to sin.

God is not the author of sin.

And it is blasphemy to assert that God created sin, he abhors sin.

 

[civic]

Which is it?
It was the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil, not the Tree of Incorrupt and Corruptible, which is word games.
Follow the Scripture. Don't change it to suit your beliefs.
Be honest with Scripture.

Where did sin come from?
Good or evil?

Neither it’s a false dichotomy fallacy

 

[jeremiah1five]

Paul and Adam did not originate in the same way.

Adam descended from no one from whom he could have inherited a nature to sin.

God is not the author of sin.

And it is blasphemy to assert that God created sin, he abhors sin.

Scripture says sin comes from sinner:

1 Samuel 24:13 (KJV 1900): 13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked:

A professed Christian that refuses to accept the Scripture brings that profession in question. They in effect call God “LIAR!”

 

[Eleanor]

Scripture says sin comes from sinner:

Previously addressed.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Paul and Adam did not originate in the same way.

Adam descended from no one from whom he could have inherited a nature to sin.

God is not the author of sin.

And it is blasphemy to assert that God created sin, he abhors sin.

5 I am the LORD, and there is none else,
There is no God beside me:
I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west,
That there is none beside me.
I am the LORD, and there is none else.
7 I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil:
I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:5–7.

The Holy Spirit Authored the Scripture.
These are His very words.
Because of your unbelief in the Word of God you call the Holy Spirit a "blasphemer" for declaring God Almighty created evil. The Holy Spirit says He did.

I think you are a traducer.