ON THE LAW OF GOD PART 1

[Eleanor]

God created Adam sin-ful "missing the mark" (of the glory of God.)

Sez who?

That's the only way God can create him (man). There is only ONE God, there is NONE like Him (not even Adam), and God gives His glory to NO ONE.
Since Adam was not holy or righteous his choice to disobey God makes sense as sin comes from sinner.

And you know this, how?

When you hold that it is sin that makes one a sinner instead of a sinner that sins you destroy the Doctrine of Imputation for it was not sinful acts Christ died for (you believe sin makes one a sinner), but the sinful nature of God's elect.

Scripture presenting this notion?

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses [acts of sin] unto them; 2 Cor. 5:19.

21 For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2 Cor. 5:20–21. [italics added by translators].

It was a nature swap. Sin-ful created nature for Christ's righteous nature

It was no such thing, it was taking our punishment in our place to remove our guilt, no change of anyone's nature

. Now you have justification and sanctification.,

You have nothing without faith, and then you have only justification at this point, not sanctification which is by obedience in the Holy Spirit which leads to righteousness leading to holiness (Ro 6:16, 19).

Christ didn't die for the acts of sin as you believe, He died for the sinful nature of His elect.

Not according to my Bible.

It doesn't say, "For he hath made him to be sin-ful acts for us, who knew no sin-ful acts; that we might be made the righteous acts of God in him.

God created Adam sin-ful, that is, "missing the mark" [sin-ful] of the glory of God for that is the ONLY WAY God can create him.
Adam sinned because he was a sinner. He is not a sinner because he sinned.

Not according to my Bible.

We (not Adam at creation) sin because we are sinners.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Sez who?

You said Adam was created holy and righteous. Adam sinned. So, according to you sin comes from holy and righteous.

And you know this, how?

Adam sinned. Sin comes from sinner.

Scripture presenting this notion?

2 Cor. 5:21.

It was no such thing, it was taking our punishment in our place to remove our guilt, no change of anyone's nature

So we are all going into heaven with a sinful nature? Uh huh.

You have nothing without faith, and then you have only justification at this point, not sanctification which is by obedience in the Holy Spirit which leads to righteousness leading to holiness (Ro 6:16, 19).

Justification is God declaring His saved people "Not Guilty." It is a one-time act of God.
Sanctification is God making us more into the image of His Son. We're not starting holy when saved and made more holy as we grow. We are still sinful and in this body of this death, Paul said.

Not according to my Bible.

Not according to my Bible.

So, what is the Doctrine of Imputation? It is one of two things:
Either Christ died for our sinful acts, or
Christ died for our sinful nature (and through sanctification we are made more like unto Christ.)

We (not Adam at creation) sin because we are sinners.

So, Adam was different? How?
You said it yourself: Sin comes from sinner. (you said: we sin because we are sinners. This applies to Adam.
Adam sinned so Adam was a sinner BEFORE he sinned. That's why he sinned. Because he was a sinner. He was not holy. The Last Adam was Holy and did NO SIN.
Make comparison.

 

[Eleanor]

You said Adam was created holy and righteous. Adam sinned. So, according to you sin comes from holy and righteous.

Adam sinned. Sin comes from sinner.

2 Cor. 5:21.

That verse has nothing to do with it.

So we are all going into heaven with a sinful nature? Uh huh.

That's where the resurrection and glorified sinless bodies come in.

Justification is God declaring His saved people "Not Guilty." It is a one-time act of God.

At least you got one right.

Sanctification is God making us more into the image of His Son.

Which is done through our obedience in the Holy Spirit (Ro 6:16-19).

We're not starting holy when saved and made more holy as we grow. We are still sinful and in this body of this death, Paul said.

So, what is the Doctrine of Imputation?

It is both Adam's sin imputed to those born of Adam, and Christ's righteousness imputed to those born of Christ (Ro 5:18-19).
The imputation of the First Adam's sin (Ro 5:12-14) is the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the imputation of the Second Adam's righteousness (Ro 5:18-19).

It is one of two things:
Either Christ died for our sinful acts, or
Christ died for our sinful nature (and through sanctification we are made more like unto Christ.)

So, Adam was different? How?
You said it yourself: Sin comes from sinner. (you said: we sin because we are sinners. This applies to Adam.

No, it does not, he was created in the image of God, in righteousness, holiness and knowledge of God (Eph 4:24, Col 3:10).
Like the fallen angels, he failed his trial (which Job did not, he remained faithful and never charged God with wrong doing), which result was loss of God's divine eternal life within his immortal human spirit, and a corrupted nature, both of which all his descendants inherit.
Rebirth is the restoration of that divine eternal life within the immortal human spirit, which enables us to deal with and progressively die to our sinful nature, but never completely this side of glory.

Adam sinned so Adam was a sinner BEFORE he sinned. That's why he sinned. Because he was a sinner. He was not holy. The Last Adam was Holy and did NO SIN.
Make comparison.

Do you just make it up as you go, or do you have a Scriptural basis for your assertions?

 

[Manfred]

Matthew 5:
33 “Again, you have heard that the ancients were told, ‘You shall not make false vows, but shall fulfill your vows to the Lord.’34 But I say to you, make no oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God,

Not "better, higher"...but exact opposite. A new law.

Ya folla?

If you follow the reasoning of J1:5, then the laws are applicable to the children of God only, and your neighbor is also someone who is a child of God and not a heathen.

If you are a child of God, you should have no desire/will to pluck out the eye of a fellow child of God, but we are scathing in our Judgement which can be like a slap in the face.
Do not slap back... but turn your cheek for the back-hand that is coming.

Is this opposed to the spirit of the law that says an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth... Not sure it is, but I shall continue reading to see where this ends up.

(Note: I have my cheek turned in anticipation of a back-hand that may be coming my way soon... )

 

[Manfred]

The word "good" has nothing to do with "morality." That's another word and it is not here.

The word "good" in the Genesis creation means "good [enough]" or "to specifications."

God could have used the word perfect.

If Adam was created perfect, he would/could not have sinned.
This too was Gods plan in election.

I am enjoying what you are showing here, and up to this point can not find disagreement.

If you were to state that we are under law and not grace, then we will have a different discussion, but I believe you are not saying that.

What about the Sabbath, and keeping it Holy? Your take?

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

If you follow the reasoning of J1:5, then the laws are applicable to the children of God only, and your neighbor is also someone who is a child of God and not a heathen.

Irrelevant. I don't disagree but irrelevant to my purpose.

If you are a child of God, you should have no desire/will to pluck out the eye of a fellow child of God, but we are scathing in our Judgement which can be like a slap in the face.
Do not slap back... but turn your cheek for the back-hand that is coming.

Sure...but irrelevant.

Is this opposed to the spirit of the law that says an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth... Not sure it is, but I shall continue reading to see where this ends up.

(Note: I have my cheek turned in anticipation of a back-hand that may be coming my way soon... )

Nah...I've made my point and it wasn't to slap anyone. Simply that the Law of Sinai is not the Law of Christ.

 

[Manfred]

Nah...I've made my point and it wasn't to slap anyone. Simply that the Law of Sinai is not the Law of Christ.

You have to define this better.

God is perfect, and His law is perfect.
Rom 7:7 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”
Rom 7:8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead.

Christ is God the Son, He was there on Sinai when He wrote the law with His finger on those tablets.
Immutable, unchangeable, the same always.

As was mentioned, the letter of the law and the Spirit of the law.
The law said, though shalt not murder. That is the letter.. But I say... That is the Spirit. The same law, immutable, unchangeable except murder has now become more than a physical act.
Plucking the eye out of someone who has wronged you, has now become more than a physical act.

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

You have to define this better.

What...and deny you the joy of researching the subject?

God is perfect, and His law is perfect.

Absolutely and amen. Trouble is that it cannot help anyone. It can only condemn. But that's a different topic.

Rom 7:7 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”
Rom 7:8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead.

Yep

Christ is God the Son, He was there on Sinai when He wrote the law with His finger on those tablets.
Immutable, unchangeable, the same always.

I think that was the Father but whatevah.

As was mentioned, the letter of the law and the Spirit of the law.
The law said, though shalt not murder. That is the letter.. But I say... That is the Spirit. The same law, immutable, unchangeable except murder has now become more than a physical act.
Plucking the eye out of someone who has wronged you, has now become more than a physical act.

Not my point. My point is that it's impossible to get from point A to point B. The Law of Sinai is not the Law of Christ. Christ is the new law giver and His law is by definition "new" not old.

Have fun storming the castle.

 

[jeremiah1five]

That verse has nothing to do with it.
That's where the resurrection and glorified sinless bodies come in.

You said Adam was holy and righteous.
Adam sinned. Therefore, according to your belief sin comes from holy and righteous.

Which is done through our obedience in the Holy Spirit (Ro 6:16-19).

Our sanctification does not rest on our obedience. Christ, as Author and Finisher of our faith works in us in the valley and the mountaintop. Always. There is no interruption.

It is both Adam's sin imputed to those born of Adam, and Christ's righteousness imputed to those born of Christ (Ro 5:18-19).
The imputation of the First Adam's sin (Ro 5:12-14) is the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the imputation of the Second Adam's righteousness (Ro 5:18-19).

His sin was not an illusion or patter or type or shadow. It was a real sin with real consequences.

No, it does not, he was created in the image of God, in righteousness, holiness and knowledge of God (Eph 4:24, Col 3:10).

Adam sinned. Therefore, according to you sin comes from holy and righteous.
God is Holy and Righteous, how long before God sin since you believe sin comes from holy and righteous?

Like the fallen angels, he failed his trial (which Job did not, he remained faithful and never charged God with wrong doing), which result was loss of God's divine eternal life within his immortal human spirit, and a corrupted nature, both of which all his descendants inherit.

What we inherit is the sin nature from Adam for that was the only way he could be created. Adam is not God. Holy and Righteous are the attributes and nature of God. IF Adam was holy and righteous he would by necessity MUST possess ALL Deific attributes and nature of God or he wpould fall short of God's glory. Falling short of God's glory is a sin.

Rebirth is the restoration of that divine eternal life within the immortal human spirit, which enables us to deal with and progressively die to our sinful nature, but never completely this side of glory.
Do you just make it up as you go, or do you have a Scriptural basis for your assertions?

I'm not talking about rebirth. Why are you trying to avoid the truth and confuse the issue?
Scriptural basis?

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. 1 Cor. 15:21–23.

Christ was holy. He is the origin of firstfruits.
Adam was created sin-ful. he is the origin of firstfruits.
There is no mention of Adam's sin. By virtue of his creation as a sin-ful being "in Adam all die."

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 1 Cor. 15:36–40.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown [planted/created] in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 1 Cor. 15:42–49.

Verse 43. How is holy and righteous weakness?
Verse 44. A natural body is not holy and righteous. Those are spiritual qualities.
Verse 47. How is earthy holy and righteous? Those are spiritual qualities from above, not below.

And this verse which you so conveniently ignore because it destroys your belief that Adam was holy and righteous at his creation. Adam sinned. Sin comes from sinner, not holy.

13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked: 1 Sam. 24:13.

Answer this: Does sin come from holy or does sin come from sinner?

 

[David1701]

Not to start a fight, but is Lordship Salvation the Weaker Brother?

Lordship Salvation is really just a way of saying that if you haven't submitted to Christ as your Lord, then you cannot truly claim to have believed in him.

 

[jeremiah1five]

God could have used the word perfect.

If Adam was created perfect, he would/could not have sinned.
This too was Gods plan in election.

I am enjoying what you are showing here, and up to this point can not find disagreement.

If you were to state that we are under law and not grace, then we will have a different discussion, but I believe you are not saying that.

What about the Sabbath, and keeping it Holy? Your take?

Paul's statement we are not under the law but under grace has to do with sin. Sin is addressed in the Sacrificial Laws. The Sacrificial Laws were especially fulfilled by the Bread of Life. We might be a free people and live in the western world and love our hamburgers and burritos but the Social Laws and the Moral Laws still apply even though mostly ALL western-influenced Christians do not observe them. God's dietary laws are beneficial. God's Moral Laws are beneficial. There is nothing wrong with God's instruction in Scripture concerning how we are to live. He knows what's best.

The Sabbath is rest one day out of seven. If you work a job Tuesday through Sunday, then the seventh day, Monday, is your Sabbath.
Scripture never says the Sabbath is on Saturday (or Sunday).

God declare Adam after his creation "good." The word means "good [enough]" or "to specification." The word "perfect" would be a synonym meaning "complete," just as the word "perfect" is used of Lucifer: "thou wast perfect in all thy ways..."

Thanks for thinking this through. We are not the only ones that hold God created Adam sin-ful, which means, "missing the mark" [of the glory of God.]

 

[civic]

Lordship Salvation is really just a way of saying that if you haven't submitted to Christ as your Lord, then you cannot truly claim to have believed in him.

ditto- its the old believe in Him as ones Savior but deny Him as ones Lord. Having ones cake and eating it too so to speak. Cheap grace.

 

[David1701]

Paul's statement we are not under the law but under grace has to do with sin. Sin is addressed in the Sacrificial Laws. The Sacrificial Laws were especially fulfilled by the Bread of Life. We might be a free people and live in the western world and love our hamburgers and burritos but the Social Laws and the Moral Laws still apply even though mostly ALL western-influenced Christians do not observe them. God's dietary laws are beneficial. God's Moral Laws are beneficial. There is nothing wrong with God's instruction in Scripture concerning how we are to live. He knows what's best.

The Sabbath is rest one day out of seven. If you work a job Tuesday through Sunday, then the seventh day, Monday, is your Sabbath.
Scripture never says the Sabbath is on Saturday (or Sunday).

God declare Adam after his creation "good." The word means "good [enough]" or "to specification." The word "perfect" would be a synonym meaning "complete," just as the word "perfect" is used of Lucifer: "thou wast perfect in all thy ways..."

Thanks for thinking this through. We are not the only ones that hold God created Adam sin-ful, which means, "missing the mark" [of the glory of God.]

God did not create anything sinful!

Gen. 1:31 (Webster) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Hab. 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: why lookest thou on them that deal treacherously, and keepest silence when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Adam was created in the image of God, not sinful. He clearly also had the ability to corrupt that image, which he did.

 

[civic]

God did not create anything sinful!

Gen. 1:31 (Webster) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Hab. 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: why lookest thou on them that deal treacherously, and keepest silence when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Adam was created in the image of God, not sinful. He clearly also had the ability to corrupt that image, which he did.

Amen !

 

[jeremiah1five]

God did not create anything sinful!

Gen. 1:31 (Webster) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Hab. 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: why lookest thou on them that deal treacherously, and keepest silence when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

Adam was created in the image of God, not sinful. He clearly also had the ability to corrupt that image, which he did.

You forget that a lamb was slain from (BEFORE) the foundation (creation) of the world.
This allowed a Righteous God to create an unrighteous being.

And the word "good" in the Genesis creation narrative means "good [enough]" or "to specification." It does not mean "morally good." that word is elsewhere. Not here in Genesis.

The image of God is Christ, not Adam. Adam is earthy, natural, of dirt. Christ is spiritual as God is Spirit and from above.
When God breathed into the nostrils of Adam He blew into his genetics and loins EVERY human to be born even His Elect. Even His Son. In this God declared that it wasn't Adam that was the image of God but Christ. There is no better image of a Father than a Son.

Now tell me. If Adam was not sin-ful where did his sin come from? From what nature did he sin? From a holy nature or a sinful nature?

13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked: 1 Sam. 24:13.

In other words sin comes from sinner.
Adam sinned. Thus, sin comes from sinner.

 

[David1701]

You forget that a lamb was slain from (BEFORE) the foundation (creation) of the world.
This allowed a Righteous God to create an unrighteous being.

I didn't forget that the Lamb of God was slain before the foundation of the world (i.e. God counted it as done, because no-one can thwart his intentions); but I also didn't make the ludicrous, non-sequitur assumption that this "allowed a Righteous (sic) God to create an unrighteous being.".

You can only create from what you are. God is only good; therefore what he created was good.

And the word "good" in the Genesis creation narrative means "good [enough]" or "to specification." It does not mean "morally good." that word is elsewhere. Not here in Genesis.

God said that Adam was "very good", not just "good enough". Adam was uncorrupt, but corruptible.

Gen. 1:31 (KJV) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

The image of God is Christ, not Adam. Adam is earthy, natural, of dirt. Christ is spiritual as God is Spirit and from above.
When God breathed into the nostrils of Adam He blew into his genetics and loins EVERY human to be born even His Elect. Even His Son. In this God declared that it wasn't Adam that was the image of God but Christ. There is no better image of a Father than a Son.

The part of your post that I've made bold is demonstrably wrong (it's a false dichotomy). The first Adam was created in the image of God; the last Adam is God manifest in the flesh and is the express image of God.

The First Adam

Gen. 1:26,27 (Webster)
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

The Last Adam

1 Tim. 3:16 (KJV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

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Now tell me. If Adam was not sin-ful where did his sin come from? From what nature did he sin? From a holy nature or a sinful nature?

As I've already said, Adam was created corruptible. I don't know exactly when he became corrupt, because we're not told, but I suspect that it was immediately before he took the forbidden fruit from Eve.

13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked: 1 Sam. 24:13.

In other words sin comes from sinner.
Adam sinned. Thus, sin comes from sinner.

Yes, Adam corrupted himself before he broke God's commandment, probably immediately before.

 

[Eleanor]

You said Adam was holy and righteous.
Adam sinned. Therefore, according to your belief sin comes from holy and righteous.

Our sanctification does not rest on our obedience. Christ, as Author and Finisher of our faith works in us in the valley and the mountaintop. Always. There is no interruption.

His sin was not an illusion or patter or type or shadow. It was a real sin with real consequences.

Adam sinned. Therefore, according to you sin comes from holy and righteous.
God is Holy and Righteous, how long before God sin since you believe sin comes from holy and righteous?

What we inherit is the sin nature from Adam for that was the only way he could be created. Adam is not God. Holy and Righteous are the attributes and nature of God. IF Adam was holy and righteous he would by necessity MUST possess ALL Deific attributes and nature of God or he wpould fall short of God's glory. Falling short of God's glory is a sin.

I'm not talking about rebirth. Why are you trying to avoid the truth and confuse the issue?
Scriptural basis?

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. 1 Cor. 15:21–23.

Christ was holy. He is the origin of firstfruits.
Adam was created sin-ful. he is the origin of firstfruits.
There is no mention of Adam's sin. By virtue of his creation as a sin-ful being "in Adam all die."

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 1 Cor. 15:36–40.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown [planted/created] in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 1 Cor. 15:42–49.

Verse 43. How is holy and righteous weakness?
Verse 44. A natural body is not holy and righteous. Those are spiritual qualities.
Verse 47. How is earthy holy and righteous? Those are spiritual qualities from above, not below.

And this verse which you so conveniently ignore because it destroys your belief that Adam was holy and righteous at his creation. Adam sinned. Sin comes from sinner, not holy.

13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked: 1 Sam. 24:13.S

Previously addressed.

Answer this: Does sin come from holy or does sin come from sinner?

Sin comes from more than one thing, among them being disobedience of the righteous.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Previously addressed.

Sin comes from more than one thing, among them being disobedience of the righteous.

Disobedience IS sin.
Where did it come from? Holy?

 

[jeremiah1five]

I didn't forget that the Lamb of God was slain before the foundation of the world (i.e. God counted it as done, because no-one can thwart his intentions); but I also didn't make the ludicrous, non-sequitur assumption that this "allowed a Righteous (sic) God to create an unrighteous being.".

You can only create from what you are. God is only good; therefore what he created was good.


God said that Adam was "very good", not just "good enough". Adam was uncorrupt, but corruptible.

Gen. 1:31 (KJV) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

So Adam was uncorrupt but corruptible? Which is it? If he was corruptible, he was sinful as Scripture shows he sinned. Christ is incorruptible and He didn't sin. So, to take your reasoning with regard to Christ was incorruptible He did no sin, Adam was uncorruptible but corruptible that makes no sense. A leopard cannot change its spots neither can a sinful creation become incorruptible but corruptible.
Insects were created and God called them "good." this means they were uncorruptible but corruptible?

The part of your post that I've made bold is demonstrably wrong (it's a false dichotomy). The first Adam was created in the image of God; the last Adam is God manifest in the flesh and is the express image of God.

The First Adam

Gen. 1:26,27 (Webster)
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

The Last Adam

1 Tim. 3:16 (KJV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

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As I've already said, Adam was created corruptible. I don't know exactly when he became corrupt, because we're not told, but I suspect that it was immediately before he took the forbidden fruit from Eve.

Yes, Adam corrupted himself before he broke God's commandment, probably immediately before.

One is either holy or unholy, righteous or unrighteous.
How can a holy Adam corrupt himself before his sin?

 

[Eleanor]

Disobedience IS sin.
Where did it come from? Holy?

A righteous man's free choice to choose what he prefers (Josh 24:15).