Judging

[Bigknucklesandhands]

As Christians are we truly called to judge others?

 

[Carbon]

As Christians are we truly called to judge others?

Depends, elaborate a little.

 

[Bigknucklesandhands]

Depends, elaborate a little.

Depends, elaborate a little.

People drinking and committing sins of the world and calling themselves a Christian

 

[Carbon]

@Bigknucklesandhands

That changes things a bit. for me anyway. Good question. let me think about that a bit.

 

[Fred]

As Christians are we truly called to judge others?

Yes (John 7:24; 1 Corinthians 5:3).

 

[Bigknucklesandhands]

@Bigknucklesandhands

That changes things a bit. for me anyway. Good question. let me think about that a bit.

I know we are called to love people and it’s not our job to correct them, or at least I don’t think it’s our job…….it won’t do them any good to repent to us but whenever a person explains that worldly addiction isn’t coming between them and Jesus I’m just kinda stand-offish……..

 

[Carbon]

As Christians are we truly called to judge others?

Personally, I believe we are to be careful about judging another. There are those out there who show explicitly sinful behavior, which I assume is a reasonable judgment that they are not saved. Though it may be a backslidden Christian.

However, those who proclaim Christ and are of the church? That's a bit different. We must be careful of the "theology of glory." In other words, we should not judge another on how their life is going, as in going through tough times, looking very frustrated, and not acting like a Christian.
Unless some actions are explicitly sinful, we cannot judge the purpose of their hearts. We do not know what may be going on in their lives. Here, holding the tongue and praying would probably be best.

Then there is the "theology of the cross." God allows certain things in our lives, we may be miserable, act miserable, or look and act downright angry. We may be struggling in life, unlike others at the time. This does not mean someone is not a Christian or that they are not living right. As Christians, we will suffer.
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, Col 1:24.

 

[Bigknucklesandhands]

Personally, I believe we are to be careful about judging another. There are those out there who show explicitly sinful behavior, which I assume is a reasonable judgment that they are not saved. Though it may be a backslidden Christian.

However, those who proclaim Christ and are of the church? That's a bit different. We must be careful of the "theology of glory." In other words, we should not judge another on how their life is going, as in going through tough times, looking very frustrated, and not acting like a Christian.
Unless some actions are explicitly sinful, we cannot judge the purpose of their hearts. We do not know what may be going on in their lives. Here, holding the tongue and praying would probably be best.

Then there is the "theology of the cross." God allows certain things in our lives, we may be miserable, act miserable, or look and act downright angry. We may be struggling in life, unlike others at the time. This does not mean someone is not a Christian or that they are not living right. As Christians, we will suffer.
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, Col 1:24.

Thank you brother, I like this best

 

[Carbon]

I know we are called to love people and it’s not our job to correct them, or at least I don’t think it’s our job…….it won’t do them any good to repent to us but whenever a person explains that worldly addiction isn’t coming between them and Jesus I’m just kinda stand-offish……..

I think we should correct each other on many things. If we see a brother or sister when we were growing up headed in the wrong direction, wouldn't it be loving to council them? I think it would be poor judgment not to say anything.

How important is it in the Christian life?

 

[Carbon]

Then there is the "theology of the cross." God allows certain things in our lives, we may be miserable, act miserable, or look and act downright angry. We may be struggling in life, unlike others at the time. This does not mean someone is not a Christian or that they are not living right. As Christians, we will suffer.
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, Col 1:24.

I also wanted to add, being conformed to the image of Christ, mortifying the flesh daily may not be the easiest thing. Sanctification is a life long process.

 

[Bigknucklesandhands]

I think we should correct each other on many things. If we see a brother or sister when we were growing up headed in the wrong direction, wouldn't it be loving to council them? I think it would be poor judgment not to say anything.

How important is it in the Christian life?

There’s been many times I wish I would’ve had my head knocked in by another brother (lovingly of course) for back sliding and looking at things I ought not have looked at. But I had to figure it out while getting judged by the church……hence the topic

 

[Carbon]

There’s been many times I wish I would’ve had my head knocked in by another brother (lovingly of course) for back sliding and looking at things I ought not have looked at. But I had to figure it out while getting judged by the church……hence the topic

Me too, I'm pretty thick-headed.

"When I look at myself, I don't see how I can be saved. But when I look at Christ, I don't see how I can be lost."
Luther

I have to remind myself of the gospel daily.

 

[Bigknucklesandhands]

Me too, I'm pretty thick-headed.

"When I look at myself, I don't see how I can be saved. But when I look at Christ, I don't see how I can be lost."
Luther

I have to remind myself of the gospel daily.

Lovely quote! Thank you for chiming in brother

 

[ChristB4us]

As Christians are we truly called to judge others?

For those having gone astray, we are called to judge to correct, but not to condemn.

Matthew 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. 11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

The thing to watch out for is being a hypocrite if you try to correct someone when you are still doing that sin yourself. Then you have to repent first by looking to the author & finisher of our faith to help you to lay aside every weight & sin before you can see clearly in correcting others.

Matthew 7:1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

 

[Selah7]

As Christians are we truly called to judge others?

No.
Judge not, that ye be not judged.

- Matthew 7:1 (KJV)

 

[Bigknucklesandhands]

No.
Judge not, that ye be not judged.

- Matthew 7:1 (KJV)

I believe this to be true, but I do also believe there is a fine line to follow between judging and condemning…….if I’m doing something wrong and I’m just unaware of my actions then a little judgement would ultimately set me free in the long run.

But Jesus did not condemn, and that’s what a lot of people do…….not me though. Anything I do I try to do it out of love the best way i know how

 

[ChristB4us]

No.
Judge not, that ye be not judged.

- Matthew 7:1 (KJV)

The thing to watch out for is being a hypocrite if you try to correct someone when you are still doing that sin yourself. Then you have to repent first by looking to the author & finisher of our faith to help you to lay aside every weight & sin before you can see clearly in correcting others.

Matthew 7:1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

And so for those having gone astray, we are called to judge to correct in Christ's love, but not to condemn.

Matthew 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. 11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

If still unrepentant before the whole church, then he or she is to be excommunicated in the hopes that they will turn to Jesus Christ for help to depart from practicing or living in sin(s) and return to the fellowship.

1 Corinthians 5th Chapter

 

[Selah7]

I believe this to be true, but I do also believe there is a fine line to follow between judging and condemning…….if I’m doing something wrong and I’m just unaware of my actions then a little judgement would ultimately set me free in the long run.

But Jesus did not condemn, and that’s what a lot of people do…….not me though. Anything I do I try to do it out of love the best way i know how

but the OP’s question was about judging.

 

[Bigknucklesandhands]

but the OP’s question was about judging.

I’m sorry for the confusion, I guess I should have worded it “condemned”

 

[Eleanor]

As Christians are we truly called to judge others?

We are to judge:
1) open sin in the body - 1 Co 5:1, 12-13,
2) doctrine - Ac 17:11,
3) rightly, by actions - Jn 7:24.