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Judging

And let's add a fourth:

4) judge ourselves - 1 Co 11:31.
 
I never saw Jesus to tell judge anyone in fact he warned against it.
 
John 5:22
Judge with righteous judgment

John 5:22
Judge with righteous judgment.
Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
 
Yes but don't misunderstand what the word judge means
Don't you think the following are self-explanatory?

We are to judge:
1) rightly; i.e., actions only - Jn 5:22,
2) open sin in the body - 1 Co 5:1, 12-13,
3) doctrine - Ac 17:11,
34 ourselves - 1 Co 11:31.
 
As Christians are we truly called to judge others?
My rule of thumb is that we can judge people in all matters with minor exceptions. Don't be quick to judge without adequate information or appearances.
See https://www.gotquestions.org/do-not-judge.html

Probably “Do not judge, or you too will be judged” (Matthew 7:1) is the most abused teaching by men of the Bible, though I would put man's abuse of the meaning of IMAGE OF GOD in the mix.

Aside: Don't judge me on this answer ;)
 
Also judge:
1) open sin in the body - 1 Co 5:1, 12-13,
2) doctrine - Ac 17:11,
3) ourselves - 1 Co 11:31.
But the word judge derives from judgement judgement more often than not having to deal with not condemning judgement but righteous discerning and understanding and then execiting that whether in the form of understanding what is trute or not or using wise judgement to discern where help is needed or lacking in one another.

But to judge righteously it is not how the world judges there is no condemnation in Christ rather the ability to accurataely and righteously judge noty as a judge to judge others but to make righteous judgement.
 
noty as a judge to judge others but to make righteous judgement.

Can a believer make a righteous judgment in judging others?

For example, if it is known that a person is a thief and this person even admits to being one, yet they deny there is any wrong in engaging in this activity. Is it not judging this person righteously (which would encompass doing it lovingly) that such actions are contrary to what the Bible teaches? - perhaps adding in to this person that true riches are found in the Lord (Psalm 119:14).
 
Also judge:
1) rightly, according to actions (Jn 5:52),
2) open sin in the body - 1 Co 5:1, 12-13,
3) doctrine - Ac 17:11,
4) ourselves - 1 Co 11:31.
But the word judge derives from judgement judgement more often than not having to deal with not condemning judgement but righteous discerning and understanding and then execiting that whether in the form of understanding what is trute or not or using wise judgement to discern where help is needed or lacking in one another.

But to judge righteously it is not how the world judges there is no condemnation in Christ rather the ability to accurataely and righteously judge noty as a judge to judge others but to make righteous judgement.
Does that disagree with anything in my post?
 
Can a believer make a righteous judgment in judging others?

For example, if it is known that a person is a thief and this person even admits to being one, yet they deny there is any wrong in engaging in this activity. Is it not judging this person righteously (which would encompass doing it lovingly) that such actions are contrary to what the Bible teaches? - perhaps adding in to this person that true riches are found in the Lord (Psalm 119:14).
Yes if the judgement is from the holy spirit/ if he leads us to all truths do you think he won't lead us to rightoues judgement and what it means to judge righteously?

If you have to consider this matter then your not listening who is that has the righteous judgement? and does he not say we are to be an imatation of himself?

The sad reality is that if you have to even consider what it is to judge righteously then your not in a position to do so, understanding what it means to judge will never be made clear as long as you do not follow him utterly and completely.

There is not division or confusion in Christ to be heirs and called to even judge the nations if you have evehn a little confusion about it then you are not yet ready.

I bsay this not to speak down or talk down but as fact.
 
Does that disagree with anything in my post?
Does it matter if it does? Do you know how often truth disagrees with what we think is truth? what does it mean to judge righteously? yes scripture speaks of it but few understand if it disagrees with your post then maybe consider why
 
Can a believer make a righteous judgment in judging others?
"Righteous" means right.
A believer can make a right judgment (sin or not) based on other's actions, however, they cannot judge their heart.
 
Does it matter if it does? Do you know how often truth disagrees with what we think is truth? what does it mean to judge righteously? yes scripture speaks of it but few understand if it disagrees with your post then maybe consider why
Yes, because we are told in the NT what we are to judge.

Is anything stated in my post (#31) contra-Biblical?
 
Yes, because we are told what we are to judge.

Is anything stated in my post (#31) contra-Biblical?
Answer me this, do you ever have to consider if your judging or judgement is rightoues? if you have to consider it even a little you are not ready, contra biblical? as if most of us even understand the bible to begin with

No one would listen to him in the written word everyone took their so called truth they study they use the scriptures but do do not understand it.

So he is going to use the spirit of truth instead, all the knowledge all the so called biblical truths will fall like the walls of Jericho what we were not getting in the written word he will show in the living almighty word

If you want to know the real truth the real thing the deep to deep clearly the written word only brings confusion divions and misunderstanding there is one truth not may one interpretation not many none God not not many ideas of who he is.


So you are well versed well equipped well studied now take youir nose out of the book and look up to the orignal sourse the real deal he can teach and show you far more than anything you read in his word as you are

If you were unaware he is in the works to use those who would seek the real truth to leave studying the word of God to proving it making it come alive every promise every word in there no more confusion no more debates no more is this what the word means he is going to show why he is God he is going to prove hios word he doesn't need more scholars he needs workers he needs those who follow the spirit who take theirr noses out of the book and look to the real deal.

You can make any post any sermon any teaching as biblical as you want but the spirit of truth opposes the norm goes against the usual way of understanding.

I can personaly testify he has far more than what we imagine a realm with him that seems impossible revelation after revalation not because one studied the word og God but because they sought after the word of God and who is the word of God?
 
Answer me this, do you ever have to consider if your judging or judgement is rightoues? if you have to consider it even a little you are not ready, contra biblical? as if most of us even understand the bible to begin with
Well, we're talking about me here, and I do understand the Bible.

And I'm not much interested in judging what it is not my business to judge.
 
Well, we're talking about me here, and I do understand the Bible.

And I'm not much interested in judging what it is not my business to judge.
See the judging you are talking about is not what I am talking about. It is not out place to look down on others but we are called rightly judge so the judging and judgement we are told about is not about being judgemental judge for yourself this phrase is used in scripture what was it talking about?
 
See the judging you are talking about is not what I am talking about. It is not out place to look down on others but we are called rightly judge so the judging and judgement we are told about is not about being judgemental judge for yourself this phrase is used in scripture what was it talking about?
I was talking about judging wrongly, i.e., judging the heart, rather than judging rightly, i.e., judging the actions.
 
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