There is no reason to be sorry for that; it's good not to let any system be your guide.
That's good, you dont believe that, and neither do Calvinists.
Calvinism does not teach that God is a puppetmaster. But if you think mankind works on equal moral footing with God, you've got a perverse worldview and a perverse Gospel, that ignores God's absolute sovereignty and right over all creation.
Let's remember that God does not change, lest we be destroyed. God's Love can't grow or change; it can't begin or end. I myself have never heard a Calvinist say God has, at any time, not Loved them. God loves people differently over time; he now calls us a Friend, Son and Bride. None of this changes God...
Calvinism is True; but the other side is True as well. Jesus is God, and He wanted to Save these Reprobates...
Both can’t be true. Calvinism and Arminianism that is.
That's true, but not THE Truth. That is, I can't help but note that some will read it to claim "both sides" are two sides of The Truth. They are not. The truth is what it is, and all we can do to arrange our notions around it are only approaches, not definitions nor valid descriptions. WE are the ones who are off. The Truth does not arrange itself to us.
That's it...
Since not all Calvinists believe the same, what would you say a "true Calvinist" believes?
A true Calvinist believes in the Doctrines of Grace, and in the 5-Solas. Which means they believe Sola Fide is as True as Sola Gratia. When Calvinists believe in Sola Fide, we might say a true Calvinist may think 'Faith Alone' is even more important than 'Grace Alone'. Something we classify as an 'Only', has to be of upmost importance. Non Calvinists look at Calvinists as having only one Sola; IE Grace Alone. That's all we talk about, right? If Faith Alone is not in a Calvinist's list of Solas, the Calvinist leans Hyper...
Actually He doesnt want to save the reprobates, they are the vessels of wrath fitted for destruction. In fact His making them for destruction was one of the means He purposed to show Grace to the Elect Rom 9:21-23
They were Vessels Unconditionally fitted for Wrath and Destruction, yes; thanks for the admission. But Jesus Christ in his Humanity longed to gather them under his Wings; and he is God. This desire wasn't a Sin, and had to be his Hypostatic desire...
Amen
Sounds a bit vague. His will? Do you mean, his wish?
Don't understand what --what I said? Or what?
That's probably right. Since he Kept the Law to Love his Neighbor, it would at least be his wish. Being his wish, it would be his Desire. Being his Desire, it would be his Will if they were...
Here is a clip on this that you may enjoy. It will help from the Reformed perspective.
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This is why both sides have some truth...Here is a clip on this that you may enjoy. It will help from the Reformed perspective.
Jesus’ lament shows us that human suffering, considered in itself, does not please the Almighty. Although God has ordained Jerusalem’s destruction, His revealed will in Scripture proves He has “no pleasure in the death of the wicked (Ezek. 33:11). But, as John Calvin writes, “the will of God is exhibited to us in two ways,” and there is a sovereign will, unrevealed to us, that governs all that ever occurs (Deut. 29:29). By this hidden will God may ordain events that by themselves do not please Him but nonetheless contribute to His glory, which is supremely pleasing to Him (Isa. 48:9–11). God finds pleasure not in the suffering, but in the good He works for His glory through the suffering.
Jesus Laments Over Jerusalem | Reformed Bible Studies & Devotionals at Ligonier.org
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