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2 Peter 2:1 Master who bought them

I am not finding it in Grudems book.

What page numbers? I will copy and paste in this thread.

Is it this book?

SYSTEMATIC
THEOLOGY
• An Introduction to Bible Doctrine •

Grudem, W. A. (1994). Systematic theology : An introduction to biblical doctrine. Leicester, England; Grand Rapids, Mich.: Inter-Varsity Press; Zondervan Pub. House.

Yes that's it.

Theres two editions and I have the first edition and the page numbers are 599 and page 600. chapter 27, the atonement.

Last paragraph of page 599 and first paragraph of page,600.; print edition, hardcover.
 
I'm not interested in your notion or definition that is not based upon Scripture.

Lees

Oh stop. He quoted your post and asked you a clear question regarding your post.

You ought to be able to answer a question about the things your saying, if you can't answer I'm sure that's fine but there's no need to be disingenuous. Just say you can't answer.

The question was regarding your post. Not someone else's.
 
I'm not interested in your notion or definition that is not based upon Scripture.

Lees
It wasn't MY notion, but the view of those who insist on self-determination.

"Reprobation" is a biblical principle. If you like, open a thread on the defeat of the Reprobation as a Biblical Principle. You could reference Romans 9 for starters.
 
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It wasn't MY notion, but the view of those who insist on self-determination.

"Reprobation" is a biblical principle. If you like, open a thread on the defeat of the Reprobation as a Biblical Principle. You could reference Romans 9 for starters.

Yes, 'reprobation' is a Biblical principle. Which is why I asked what Scripture you are referring to? In other words, why choose the word 'reprobate' in your question?

No, I'm not interested in starting a thread on the defeat of 'Reprobation' as a Biblical principle. Feel free to do so. I will participate.

Sorry, I don't see the reprobate in (Rom. 9). Perhaps I missed it.

Lees
 
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Yes, 'reprobation' is a Biblical principle. Which is why I asked what Scripture you are referring to? In other words, why choose the word 'reprobate' in your question?

No, I'm not interested in starting a thread on the defeat of 'Reprobation' as a Biblical principle. Feel free to do so. I will participate.

Sorry, I don't see the reprobate in (Rom. 9). Perhaps I missed it.

Lees

I'm not interested in starting a thread on the defeat of 'Reprobation' as a Biblical principle. Feel free to do so. I will participate.

Interesting, yet you will participate.
 
I do no believe He paid for the sins of every human who ever lived.

Many use the the Biblical word "all and "world" to justify their theology that He died for everyone, but this is not so.
Many use those words because there are many verses in scripture that use those exact words.
Scripture also goes on to say that there will be some that will fall away, be broken off, blotted out of the book of life, and who will not stay loyal to the merciful Master that bought and freed them but will return to their slop and pick another master to serve, thus denying the Master that bought and freed them.
We see this scenario happen again and again throughout scripture.
 
Many use those words because there are many verses in scripture that use those exact words.
Scripture also goes on to say that there will be some that will fall away, be broken off, blotted out of the book of life, and who will not stay loyal to the merciful Master that bought and freed them but will return to their slop and pick another master to serve, thus denying the Master that bought and freed them.
We see this scenario happen again and again throughout scripture.
Do you, then, believe that Christ ACTUALLY paid the penalty owed by those who themselves eventually must pay it also?

What do you think is meant by the many descriptions of perdition? What happens to those who were never 'born again'?
 
Many use those words because there are many verses in scripture that use those exact words.
Scripture also goes on to say that there will be some that will fall away, be broken off, blotted out of the book of life, and who will not stay loyal to the merciful Master that bought and freed them but will return to their slop and pick another master to serve, thus denying the Master that bought and freed them.
We see this scenario happen again and again throughout scripture.

Exact words in the exact way?

It would seem "two" is the word designed to represent one God as Christ has spoken.

The #1 "let there be" #2 a "God alone good outcome". Law of faith believing God not seen

The witness of two. The Holy father with the son.

Christ Husband with wife established on Mount Siniah.

Christ with his hand hewn out two stone tablets written with his finger on both sides with no room for oral carnal traditions establishing sola scriptura.

Coming down Christ moved Moses to destroy the first set of the letter of the law etched in stone described as death .

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. (Death)

Then to represent the New Testament this time commanded Moses to hewn out two tablets and the again with his fingerer he wrote on both sides.

Two books . One to represent the name of every person born, the other to represent those born again of Christ. The Lamb slain from the foundation the six days the Holy Father did work. demonstrated at the cross as the work of two (father and Son) much later.

When the two books are opened on the last day and the two are compared. The names in lamb book of life will be in both books. The other not found in neither book. . . . . . . like they were never born in the first place
 
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