Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

[VCO]

Your link is mistaken. Ezekiel 40-48's temple plans were already finished in the post-exilic return under Zerubbabel, Nehemiah, and Joshua the high priest of that temple. Scripture tells us in Ezra 6:14-15 that Ezekiel 40-48's temple plans were finished according to God's commandment.

"And the elders of the Jews builded, and they prospered through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet, and Zechariah the son of Iddo, And they builded, and finished it, according to the commandment of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia. And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king."

God had also instructed that the high priesthood for that Ezekiel 40-48 temple was supposed to be limited only to the members of Zadok's family (Ez. 44:10-16), because they alone had remained faithful to God during the exile when the others had not. Joshua who was cleansed for the role of high priest in the post-exilic temple had an unbroken lineage back to Zadok as recorded in scripture, as required for operations in that temple.

We are not waiting for Ezekiel 40-48's temple to be rebuilt. Herod made extensive renovations to Ezekiel's temple structure, and the whole thing was torn down to the last stone in AD 70.

Where did you READ THAT? The Ezekiel is the 4th Temple and is in the Future during the Millennium. Third Temple is next, during the Seven Years of Tribulation. END OF SUBJECT.

 

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Where did you READ THAT? The Ezekiel is the 4th Temple and is in the Future during the Millennium. Third Temple is next, during the Seven Years of Tribulation. END OF SUBJECT.

You have been deluded.

If the Ezekiel temple is in our future, just how do you think it is going to be staffed by a high priesthood coming specifically from an unbroken lineage descending from the Zadok family, as required by God in this Ezekiel 44:9-16 passage? The genealogical records of the tribes were all burned up in the AD 70 fires which destroyed Jerusalem's archives. And you are disregarding the fact that Ezra 6:14-15 says that the post-exilic temple was built "according to the commandment of the God of Israel" - with the particulars of this commandment having already been given to Ezekiel in chapters 40-46.

But you are correct that Ezekiel's temple was the millennial temple. It's just that you probably don't understand that the literal thousand-years millennium of Revelation 20 is a period of time in the past. According to Rev. 20:5, the millennium was supposed to be finished with the "First resurrection" of Christ and that "remnant of the dead" which came to life again on the same day that Christ the First-fruits arose from the dead in AD 33. The millennium began a literal thousand years before AD 33 with the foundation stone of Solomon's temple being laid down.

Ezekiel's post-exilic temple was built around the middle of those millennium years. God had then answered Habakkuk3:2's prayer to "revive thy work in the midst of the years" by restoring the captives to their homeland and encouraging them to rebuild His house under Zerubbabel the governor's leadership. Ezra's weeping prayer in Ezra 9:8-9 acknowledged that God had done this reviving of Israel's bondage in allowing them to build the house of God and the wall in Jerusalem. Zerubbabel's hands not only laid the foundation stone of that house, but his hands also participated in finishing it as well (Zechariah 4:9).

 

[VCO]

You have been deluded.
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NO SIR. I teach the Truth.
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[Mr GLee]

You have been deluded.

If the Ezekiel temple is in our future, just how do you think it is going to be staffed by a high priesthood coming specifically from an unbroken lineage descending from the Zadok family, as required by God in this Ezekiel 44:9-16 passage? The genealogical records of the tribes were all burned up in the AD 70 fires which destroyed Jerusalem's archives. And you are disregarding the fact that Ezra 6:14-15 says that the post-exilic temple was built "according to the commandment of the God of Israel" - with the particulars of this commandment having already been given to Ezekiel in chapters 40-46.

But you are correct that Ezekiel's temple was the millennial temple. It's just that you probably don't understand that the literal thousand-years millennium of Revelation 20 is a period of time in the past. According to Rev. 20:5, the millennium was supposed to be finished with the "First resurrection" of Christ and that "remnant of the dead" which came to life again on the same day that Christ the First-fruits arose from the dead in AD 33. The millennium began a literal thousand years before AD 33 with the foundation stone of Solomon's temple being laid down.

Ezekiel's post-exilic temple was built around the middle of those millennium years. God had then answered Habakkuk3:2's prayer to "revive thy work in the midst of the years" by restoring the captives to their homeland and encouraging them to rebuild His house under Zerubbabel the governor's leadership. Ezra's weeping prayer in Ezra 9:8-9 acknowledged that God had done this reviving of Israel's bondage in allowing them to build the house of God and the wall in Jerusalem. Zerubbabel's hands not only laid the foundation stone of that house, but his hands also participated in finishing it as well (Zechariah 4:9).

The thousand years in that parable (Revelation 20 is a unknow, no sign was given. Jesus said it a evil generation that does seek after one Believers seek after prophecy

The Amil (unknown) position works the best . No need to know.

 

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The thousand years in that parable (Revelation 20 is a unknow, no sign was given. Jesus said it a evil generation that does seek after one Believers seek after prophecy

The Amil (unknown) position works the best . No need to know.

Revelation was not written to leave things unknown. The stated purpose of the visions sent to John were "to SHOW unto Christ's servants" those things. The interpreting angel gave the sense of what what said so that John's readers could understand them.

The thousand years in Revelation 20 is not a parable. Nor was it a sign. It was, quite literally, a thousand years period of time that Revelation 20:5 said was finished with the "First resurrection". All the saints John was writing to at the time knew when that "First resurrection" had taken place. Many of them had been alive when it happened that day in AD 33 when Christ the First-fruits and the Matthew 27:52-53 "remnant of the dead" had risen from the grave. Satan's deception of the nations had been bound up until that point in AD 33, but his "short time" of being loosed from that chain had already begun for John's readers, as John himself said in Revelation 12:12.

This was meant to be an encouragement for John's readers; that even though Satan had been loosed upon the earth in full fury in their generation, that he really only had a "little season" left to operate in this world. Some of those saints would live to see a time when Satan and his devils were destroyed.

If you and others wish to remain ignorant of that good news, it's unfortunate, but it IS your choice.

 

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NO SIR. I teach the Truth.
No further Replies.
I put you on my ignore list.

That is the very nature of being deluded. One does truly believe that they are teaching the truth.
But I won't expect you to engage with any questions if that is your choice...

 

[Mr GLee]

Revelation was not written to leave things unknown. The stated purpose of the visions sent to John were "to SHOW unto Christ's servants" those things. The interpreting angel gave the sense of what what said so that John's readers could understand them.

The thousand years in Revelation 20 is not a parable. Nor was it a sign. It was, quite literally, a thousand years period of time that Revelation 20:5 said was finished with the "First resurrection". All the saints John was writing to at the time knew when that "First resurrection" had taken place. Many of them had been alive when it happened that day in AD 33 when Christ the First-fruits and the Matthew 27:52-53 "remnant of the dead" had risen from the grave. Satan's deception of the nations had been bound up until that point in AD 33, but his "short time" of being loosed from that chain had already begun for John's readers, as John himself said in Revelation 12:12.

This was meant to be an encouragement for John's readers; that even though Satan had been loosed upon the earth in full fury in their generation, that he really only had a "little season" left to operate in this world. Some of those saints would live to see a time when Satan and his devils were destroyed.

If you and others wish to remain ignorant of that good news, it's unfortunate, but it IS your choice.

Hi thanks for the reply

Thousand is a metaphor used to represent a unknown not revealed (no need, no signs were given to wonder after ) Having it in respect to whatever is in view. . . "time" one the many.

The metaphor used in parables the signified understanding, Thousand years the first 3 times as unknown it set the standard for the whole Bible

The understanding of faith (the unseen things of God) and not literal thing seen the temporal But an understanding of His faithful living word. . by the unseen eternal things of God .Parables which without Christ spoke not

Revaltion the last chapter, the only chapter in the bock of prophecy that begins with instructions how to rightly divide (signified )

Not only did he inspire it but also signifies comparing/ mixing the things seen, /the temporal (historical) to give us the unseen gospel, The spiritual eternal understanding

If there is no mixing of the two, the temporal historical, with the unseen eternal then we are informed. . no gospel rest (Hebrew 4 :1-3

Revelation 1King James Version The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Parables called the hidden manna in chapter 2:17 Our daily bread

 

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Thousand is a metaphor used to represent a unknown not revealed

Not always.

Sometimes it is a quite literal number in scripture, such as when each tribe was to supply a literal thousand warriors to go out to battle.

The thousand years in Revelation 20 "expired" and was "finished" when the "First resurrection" took place. This "First resurrection" was a real event taking place in real time in AD 33, with a real finishing point to a real thousand years.

And the signs were explained by the interpreting angel in Revelation. Enough so that the believers could understand what was going to happen in their near future in real time.

 

[Mr GLee]

Not always.

Sometimes it is a quite literal number in scripture, such as when each tribe was to supply a literal thousand warriors to go out to battle.

The thousand years in Revelation 20 "expired" and was "finished" when the "First resurrection" took place. This "First resurrection" was a real event taking place in real time in AD 33, with a real finishing point to a real thousand years.

And the signs were explained by the interpreting angel in Revelation. Enough so that the believers could understand what was going to happen in their near future in real time.

Hi Thanks

I would offer Beginning with One , One lamb gone equals the whole flock . . . . Tens, hundreds, thousands, ten thousand, millions , thousand millions are all used to represent a unknown hidden in parables .

I am sure I do know all meaning of numbers used as metaphors in parables .Two, the one witness of God . Three, the end of a matter, four universal north, south, east, west or time of trial like 40 days , five, meaning redemption, six, natural un redeemed mankind, (beast of the field of clay ) Seven perfect or complete . Not sure with eight up to eleven, twelve authority of the invisible head. Christ, thirteen, a curse of the law

The first two uses set the pattern or foundation

Genesis 20:16 And unto Sarah he said, Behold, I have given thy brother a thousand pieces of silver: behold, he is to thee a covering of the eyes, unto all that are with thee, and with all other: thus she was reproved.

Genesis 24:60 And they blessed Rebekah, and said unto her, Thou art our sister, be thou the mother of thousands of millions, and let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them.

Numbers 1:23Those that were numbered of them, even of the tribe of Simeon, were fifty and nine thousand and three hundred.

1 Samuel 8:12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.

1 Samuel 18:8 And Saul was very wroth, and the saying displeased him; and he said, They have ascribed unto David ten thousands, and to me they have ascribed but thousands: and what can he have more but the kingdom

Thousand used 27 times in Judges as a unknow. . no need to know God does number people. David failed ,thousands died number.

Christ desires we walk or understands by His faith as it is written according the unseen eternal things of God r

2 Samuel 18:1 And David numbered the people that were with him, and set captains of thousands, and captains of hundreds over them.

Judges 15:4 And Samson went and caught three hundred foxes, and took firebrands, and turned tail to tail, and put a firebrand in the midst between two tails

Judges15:12 And Samson said unto them, I will now put forth a riddle(parable) unto you: if ye can certainly declare it me within the seven days of the feast, and find it out, then I will give you thirty sheets and thirty change of garments:

Judges 15:16 And Samson said, With the jawbone of an ass, heaps upon heaps, with the jaw of an ass have I slain a thousand men.

 

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Mr. GLee, nothing of what you wrote above addresses the point I was making - at all. I was writing about a specific expiration point - a "finishing" point - at the end of the millennium. You can't have a vague, indeterminate period that doesn't really add up to a literal thousand years if scripture tells us that this millennium ENDS with a distinct expiration point on the calendar that we know about which concludes that thousand-year period.

 

[Mr GLee]

Mr. GLee, nothing of what you wrote above addresses the point I was making - at all. I was writing about a specific expiration point - a "finishing" point - at the end of the millennium. You can't have a vague, indeterminate period that doesn't really add up to a literal thousand years if scripture tells us that this millennium ENDS with a distinct expiration point on the calendar that we know about which concludes that thousand-year period.

Every thing I wrote. The end of the millennium unknown. The last day under the Sun . No signs were given to wonder after> jesus said it natural un converted mankind that does look to a sign

God neither numbers time period or people He desires we trust our invisible head after the un seen things of God .Not that of men seen temporal dying

 

[3 Resurrections]

The end of the millennium unknown. The last day under the Sun

No, the end of the millennium is NOT unknown. The ending point of the millennium was stated in Revelation 20:5. It ended with the "First resurrection" event (which was Christ the First-fruits and the Matthew 27:52-53 saints coming out of their graves on that same day).

 

[prism]

Time Out:

I just want to know what is the Temple in Ezekiel chaps 40-48?

 

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I just want to know what is the Temple in Ezekiel chaps 40-48?

The temple plans that God gave in Ezekiel 40-46 were for the temple built in the post-exilic return period. It was begun by Zerubbabel laying the foundation stone of that temple, and it was Zerubbabel's hands that participated in finishing it, as God said in Zechariah 4:9.

This post-exilic temple constructed according to the plans in Ezekiel 40-46 and begun by Zerubbabel (Ezra 5:2) was completed according to that commandment of God, as stated in Ezra 6:14-15. "And the elders of the Jews builded, and they prospered through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo. And they builded, and finished it, according to the commandment of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia. And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king."

The high priesthood operating in Ezekiel 40-46's temple was limited only to members of the family of Zadok, and not the other Levites who had not remained faithful during the Babylonian exile period (Ez. 44:9-16). There is no way possible for Ezekiel 40-46's temple to be constructed in our future, because nobody today could possibly produce an unbroken lineage all the way back to Zadok. However, Joshua son of Josedech, the high priest cleansed by God for that position in the post-exilic temple did have that required record of an unbroken lineage back to Zadok, as preserved in scripture for us.

 

[Mr GLee]

No, the end of the millennium is NOT unknown. The ending point of the millennium was stated in Revelation 20:5. It ended with the "First resurrection" event (which was Christ the First-fruits and the Matthew 27:52-53 saints coming out of their graves on that same day).

It was the fulfilment of the promise, the signaling of the last days the time of reformation had come.

 

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It was the fulfilment of the promise, the signaling of the last days the time of reformation had come.

You seem to be having real difficulty reading Revelation 20:5, which tells us exactly when the millennium ended - when the "First resurrection" had occurred, at a time when only a "remnant of the dead" had come to life again.

 

[Mr GLee]

You seem to be having real difficulty reading Revelation 20:5, which tells us exactly when the millennium ended - when the "First resurrection" had occurred, at a time when only a "remnant of the dead" had come to life again.

if we look at that parable (the signified understanding) spoken of in the opening passages. It represents The beginning of the end "last days "

The time of first century reformation had comes the veil was rent there was no Jewish man as king of Kings siting in the holy of holies. the lie was exposed, Satan could no longer deceive all the nations of the world that God is a Jewish man as King of kings .He will be released at the end of the age

Revelation20: 3-5 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

That is the first resurrection the one and only, The ressurection gate was opened. it will close on the last day under the Sun.

 

[CrowCross]

You seem to be having real difficulty reading Revelation 20:5, which tells us exactly when the millennium ended - when the "First resurrection" had occurred, at a time when only a "remnant of the dead" had come to life again.

Revelation 20:5 pertains to the tribulation saints.... as the other saints, all the historical saints, have already been resurrected or raptured prior to the tribulation beginning....and have attended the marriage supper of the Lamb.

 

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Revelation 20:5 pertains to the tribulation saints.... as the other saints, all the historical saints, have already been resurrected or raptured prior to the tribulation beginning....and have attended the marriage supper of the Lamb.

That is not what Revelation 20:5 actually says. It is what you think it says. You are wrapping all sorts of scenarios around the actual text which distorts the real meaning of What. Revelation 20:5. Actually. Says.

 

[CrowCross]

That is not what Revelation 20:5 actually says. It is what you think it says. You are wrapping all sorts of scenarios around the actual text which distorts the real meaning of What. Revelation 20:5. Actually. Says.

You're the one claiming the "resurrection" mentioned briefly in one verse is the first resurrection.....which occurred after a 1000 year time period???
. 5The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection.

To be honest I've tried to follow your "theology" and still find it lacking.