Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

[VCO]

Keep the feast of tabernacles; not literally, but spiritually; for, as all the Jewish feasts have been long since abolished, having had their accomplishment in Christ, not one of them will ever be revived in the latter day. ref gills

That is Future Prophecy, after we are gone in the Rapture, after the second Coming. Only then will Zec. 14 be fulfilled.

 

[Mr GLee]

Keep the feast of tabernacles; not literally, but spiritually; for, as all the Jewish feasts have been long since abolished, having had their accomplishment in Christ, not one of them will ever be revived in the latter day. ref gills

Yes spiritually (not seen)

Therefore uses the temporal dying seen to gives to us the unseen understanding of the Holy Spirit .of Christ

One new cerinimoinal shadow as sign to the unbelieving world . . ..spiritual Not to the literal used to demonstrate.

Three kinds of glories demonstrated working as one.

The new testament ceremonial is used to demonstrate the wedding supper in the new .heaven an earth Then the vail will be lifted and drinking of the blood of grapes mixed with bread to represent our daily bread will be complete . . Like the parable "drink blood eat flesh" .

A vision of the Holy Spirit of Christ pouring out his Holy Spirit life on dying flesh and blood . . in jeapordy of His own Spirit life . Therefore , creating a new creature to live with Christ forever

One new ceremonial law made possible because of the cross. .Jew and Gentiles ,males and females could now gather together as one bride. the gospel explosion

That demonstrating shadow, has all but disappeared in a few assemblies no longer using it in thier format. It seems like the tradition of dying mankind signs to wonder after and seek as hope is increasing.

More and more words are losing there foundational meaning . David said in the Psalms; if the foundation is destroyed what could a believer do. Tower of Babel

1 Corinthians 11; 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God .Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.......Christ

There are few assemblies today that do cover thier head of hair. Catholics for one, certain Jewish sects another

 

[VCO]

Moses was given the plans for a temple in heaven? Was that temple a temple other than Jesus?

Walk me through those scriptures.

No, that is plans on earth, if you are talking about the plan for the Future plan for after the Rapture, and into the Millennium in Ezekiel. It is the Plans for the Fourth TEMPLE.

 

[Josheb]

No, that is plans on earth, if you are talking about the plan for the Future plan for after the Rapture, and into the Millennium in Ezekiel. It is the Plans for the Fourth TEMPLE.

I was not asking you anything. Another poster made a statement, "God already has a Temple which is the original one in heaven on which Moses was given the plans which the earthly one was built as the Bible tells us..." I am asking that poster about his statement. I am not asking you anything about anything unless you believe it best for you to speak for another and explain another's posts.

Moses, btw, was not given plans for any temple. The guy that says otherwise has to explain himself and Post 223 is nonsense.

 

[Mr GLee]

I would offer, ,

God is the temple the source of His Glory .Gods very essence is light and not that he can only create a temporal source under the Sun.

His glory as the light of the world left on day three and day four the temporal began to un wind towards the last day under the Sun .

In the new heavens and earth there will be no temple

Revelation 21:23 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

The church is a light to the world. The Holy Father calling us as temples. . children of light .

Believers I would think were always the earthly temples not made with the hands of mankind (working out the appointment death). Yoked with Christ our burden can be lighter with a living hope beyond the grave

Temples made with human hands. I beleive is foundation of all the pagan religions of the world (out of sight out of mind ) .No invisible God.

God gave over the faithless unbelieving Jew to do what they should of asked for ,a King, refusing to let The King of kings reign in thier dark hearts

 

[TMSO]

The site where the Temple stood, is dominated by two structures which keep Jews from any chance to build or restore, which are the al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, near the center of the temple mount, which is seem as one of the holiest Islamic structure in the world.

The temple mount is the place where the past Jewish temples stood, which makes it among the holiest sites in Judaism to say nothing of how Christians look at it. The First Temple was built by Solomon, the son of David, in 957 BC, and was destroyed by the Babylonian Empire, in 587 BCE. The Second Temple was constructed under of Zerubbabel in 516 BCE, was renovated by King Herod, and this is the temple that was standing when Christ came. The second temple lasted until AD 70, when it was razed to the ground by Roman soldiers under Titus. Now today, we have many evangelicals and many orthodox Jews want to reestablish the temple and even the sacrificial system. Many Christians hold that the Jewish temple will be rebuilt before Christ comes, and have set up Christian ministries to assist in the building of the temple to hasten the return of Jesus. For many of them, they think such an event will signal the start of the final events of earth’s history, but they are confused on the subject of the temple. They claim certain text as proof such as 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4..
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

They misinterpret who the man of sin is, and think it is a future antichrist, when the apostate church has already revealed itself and persecuted the faithful and burned them at the stake and tried to wipe them out, which history shows us clearly is here in the Papacy.

Now, the Jews took heart when Donald Trump won the presidential election in 2016 in the United States because he had promised to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, and began to implement that and now is running again. And we have Orthodox Jewish "tradition" that claims it is here, in the city of Jerusalem that the third and final Temple will be built when they say the 'messiah comes'. But if Christ came and they did not recognized him, then what 'messiah' are they waiting for.

If we go what God has said in His word, they are awaiting for Jesus second coming, at which they will truly, from the heart, proclaim 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.' They will recognize Him for who He truly is. When reading Paul we find that the Jews rejected Christ, that by the disobedience God may have mercy upon the Gentiles through their disobedience which became obedience. This is so that by their obedience, the Jews may also find mercy. God has locked up all in disobedience that He might have mercy on all.

The early church fathers spoke of a rebuilt church (some not all early church fathers), and that it is here that the antichrist, the evil one, whatever you wish to call him, is unveiled and proclaims himself to be the one true God. The blasphemies of the beast of Daniel. He tries to change the times and laws, hence Daniel stating a change at the middle of the last week when the sacrifices are stopped. If the temple is rebuilt, the sacrifices WILL start up again. They have been preparing for such a day for quite some time. They have even bought the heifers of the type required for purifying the people who approach the temple. They are just waiting on a temple.

 

[Mr GLee]

If we go what God has said in His word, they are awaiting for Jesus second coming, at which they will truly, from the heart, proclaim 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.' They will recognize Him for who He truly is. When reading Paul we find that the Jews rejected Christ, that by the disobedience God may have mercy upon the Gentiles through their disobedience which became obedience. This is so that by their obedience, the Jews may also find mercy. God has locked up all in disobedience that He might have mercy on all.

The early church fathers spoke of a rebuilt church (some not all early church fathers), and that it is here that the antichrist, the evil one, whatever you wish to call him, is unveiled and proclaims himself to be the one true God. The blasphemies of the beast of Daniel. He tries to change the times and laws, hence Daniel stating a change at the middle of the last week when the sacrifices are stopped. If the temple is rebuilt, the sacrifices WILL start up again. They have been preparing for such a day for quite some time. They have even bought the heifers of the type required for purifying the people who approach the temple. They are just waiting on a temple.

Waiting on a temple as that which is made by human hands the dying will of mankind? The abomination of desolation.

Satan will be released to again try and deceive all the nations of the world that God is a Jewish man (dying mankind) as King of kings

The first cetury reformation (sola scriptura) is still restoring the proper order. Christ reigning as our invisible head.as it is written

 

[TMSO]

Waiting on a temple as that which is made by human hands the dying will of mankind? The abomination of desolation.

Satan will be released to again try and deceive all the nations of the world that God is a Jewish man (dying mankind) as King of kings

The first cetury reformation (sola scriptura) is still restoring the proper order. Christ reigning as our invisible head.as it is written

This does not fit with prophecy in Daniel.

 

[Mr GLee]

This does not fit with prophecy in Daniel.

How did you come to that conclusion.? Why does it not fit?

 

[Mr GLee]

If we go what God has said in His word, they are awaiting for Jesus second coming, at which they will truly, from the heart, proclaim 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.' They will recognize Him for who He truly is. When reading Paul we find that the Jews rejected Christ, that by the disobedience God may have mercy upon the Gentiles through their disobedience which became obedience. This is so that by their obedience, the Jews may also find mercy. God has locked up all in disobedience that He might have mercy on all.

The early church fathers spoke of a rebuilt church (some not all early church fathers), and that it is here that the antichrist, the evil one, whatever you wish to call him, is unveiled and proclaims himself to be the one true God. The blasphemies of the beast of Daniel. He tries to change the times and laws, hence Daniel stating a change at the middle of the last week when the sacrifices are stopped. If the temple is rebuilt, the sacrifices WILL start up again. They have been preparing for such a day for quite some time. They have even bought the heifers of the type required for purifying the people who approach the temple. They are just waiting on a temple.

Second coming .Is he not here today reigning in the hearts of sons of God . . . Christians?

Eternal God is not a Jewish man as King of kings .A wile of the racist devil .Wrestling against flesh and blood. . murder all of mankind Legion hates all flesh .

Same flesh against flesh blood of Isaac against that of Ismael is still happening to day in the earthly Jerusalem

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,(Jew against Gentile) but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual (invisible) wickedness in high places. (The visible church)

Christ the invisible head as the husband in parables used of Jewish flesh as a metaphor to represent falling mankind. . It is a historallly view.

They must be mixed with the spiritual (not seen) or no gospel rest

That vision ended when he finished writing his book of prohecy . We have the perfect sealed to the end of time..

What is going on in earthly Jerusalem has nothing to do with the the Bible. The living words lovingly commands us not to add or subtract from the perfect.

Jewish geanalolgy (second born seed . .born again from above ) ended in Mathew. . . the shadows beginning with martyred Abel became sight .

Today there is no way a person could know Christ after the flesh.

DNA dying flesh and blood does not qualify.

All of dying mankind man must be born again from above .Not of earthly corrupted Jerusalem for a outward Jew . Vatican city Rome for Catholics, Warwick ,New York for Jehovah witness. . of Salt City Utah. . . Mormons

The one time three days and nights demonstration of the work of the lamb of God slain from the foundation the six days our Holy Father did work. It has been over for more than 2000 years.

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith (Invisible things of our Holy Father) not by sight (dying dead things)

In that way it has never been about the literal corrupted dying land, or the corrupted flesh of a Jew (dying mankind)

 

[EarlyActs]

Greetings Hobie,

After the events of Ezekiel 38 and 39 the Third Temple will be built Ezekiel chapters 40-48 and Isaiah 2:1-4. Jesus will sit upon the Temple Throne of David in Jerusalem and reign on the earth as King / Priest for the 1000 years over the converted significant remnant of natural Israel and the nations subjected and learning the ways of God.

Kind regards
Trevor

Acts 2:31s grammar only allows for the resurrection to be the Davidic enthronement of Christ. David foresaw the resurrection and realized that was the enthronement.

Fully explained in my book The Enthroned King. M. Sanford.

 

[Josheb]

This does not fit with prophecy in Daniel.

It does not fit with your interpretation of prophecy in Daniel. Big difference.

 

[EarlyActs]

Greetings Shulammite,

I am not sure how you accommodate the following references as they seem to be future:
Isaiah 2:1–4 (KJV): 1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Ezekiel 39:23–29 (KJV): 23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword. 24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them. 25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name; 26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid. 27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies’ lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations; 28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there. 29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Zechariah 14:16 (KJV): And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Also John Thomas in his book Elpis Israel (the Hope of Israel): an exposition of the Kingdom of God published in 1850 wrote the following based on his understanding of Ezekiel 38 and other prophecies:

There is, then, a partial and primary restoration of Jews before the manifestation, which is to serve as the nucleus, or basis, of future operations in the restoration of the rest of the tribes after he has appeared in the kingdom. The pre-adventual colonization of Palestine will be on purely political principles; and the Jewish colonists will return in unbelief of the Messiahship of Jesus, and of the truth as it is in him. They will emigrate thither as agriculturists and traders, in the hope of ultimately establishing their commonwealth, but more immediately of getting rich in silver and gold by commerce with India, and in cattle and goods by their industry at home under the efficient protection of the British power. And this their expectation will not be deceived; for, before Gogue invades their country, it is described by the prophet, as “a land of unwalled villages, whose inhabitants are at rest, and dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates; and possessed of silver and gold, cattle and goods, dwelling in the midst of the land” Ezekiel 38:11-13.

Kind regards
Trevor[/COLOR]

Acts 2:31

 

[TMSO]

How did you come to that conclusion.? Why does it not fit?

The prophecy that speaks of the Ancient of Days, and the Son of Man. The Ancient of Days and His kingdom are first, and then the Son of Man.

"

Vision of the Ancient of Days​

9 “I watched till thrones were [d]put in place,
And the Ancient of Days was seated;
His garment was white as snow,
And the hair of His head was like pure wool.
His throne was a fiery flame,
Its wheels a burning fire;
10 A fiery stream issued
And came forth from before Him.
A thousand thousands ministered to Him;
Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him.
The [e]court was seated,
And the books were opened.
11 “I watched then because of the sound of the [f]pompous words which the horn was speaking; I watched till the beast was slain, and its body destroyed and given to the burning flame. 12 As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.

13 “I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed."

Note that it was AFTER the whole Anitchrist ordeal that One like the Son of Man came to the Ancient of days. That is, it is after verse 11.

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings again EarlyActs,

Acts 2:31s grammar only allows for the resurrection to be the Davidic enthronement of Christ. David foresaw the resurrection and realized that was the enthronement.

Acts 2:31

We have discussed this previously. The Throne of David is to be located at Jerusalem, not heaven. Jesus was invited to sit at the right hand of the One God, Yahweh, God the Father in God the Father's Throne:
Psalm 110:1 (KJV): The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Revelation 3:21–22 (KJV): 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Acts 2:29–36 (KJV): 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Jeremiah 3:17 (KJV): At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Micah 4:1–8 (KJV): 1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. 2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. 4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it. 5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever. 6 In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted; 7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever. 8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Mr GLee]

9 “I watched till thrones were [d]put in place,
And the Ancient of Days was seated;
His garment was white as snow,
And the hair of His head was like pure wool.
His throne was a fiery flame,
Its wheels a burning fire;
10 A fiery stream issued
And came forth from before Him.
A thousand thousands ministered to Him;
Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him.
The [e]court was seated,
And the books were opened.
11 “I watched then because of the sound of the [f]pompous words which the horn was speaking; I watched till the beast was slain, and its body destroyed and given to the burning flame. 12 As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.

13 “I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed."

Note that it was AFTER the whole Anitchrist ordeal that One like the Son of Man came to the Ancient of days. That is, it is after verse 11.

Hi thanks for the reply. .I would offer. .

Visions as dreams (not literally what the eyes see) given in parables must be rightly divided.2 Corinthian 4:18 the mixing formula. the gospel rest

Remember without parables the signified understanding Christ the invisible head as eternal God. . our the husband spoke not

Many metaphors used in the parable. it gives us its unseen eternal understanding hid from those who have no faith as it is written, that could please our invisible head Christ

Without parables the signified spiritual understanding of Christ the Holy Spirit spoke not

Note . . .(parentheses) by offering)

.Daniel 7:1- 14 Daniel’s Dream About Four Animals ( four universal south east west and north) During the first year that Belshazzar was king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream. He saw these visions while he was lying on his bed, and he wrote what he had dreamed. Daniel said, “I saw my vision at night. In the vision the wind was blowing from all four directions. These winds made the sea (the judgement of Christ) rough. I saw four big animals (all the kingdoms of these world under the god of this world) and each one was different from the others. These four animals came up out of the sea.(The judgment seat of Christ) “The first animal looked like a lion, but it had wings like an eagle. As I watched, its wings were torn off. ( like the legs of the serpent no longer walk with out in agreement to Christ) It was helped up from the ground, (earthly inspired for the devil) and it stood up on two feet like a human.(Like a human not human) Then it was given a human mind.(worldly understanding.) “Then I saw another animal there in front of me that looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three (denotes the end of a matter) ribs in its mouth between its teeth. It was told, ‘Get up and eat all the meat you want!’(flesh of saints ) “After that I noticed another animal in front of me. It looked like a leopard, but it had four wings on its back. (false prophet) This animal had four heads.( universal) It was given authority to rule. (law of faith let there be and it was God alone good.) “After that, in my vision at night, I looked, and there in front of me was a fourth animal (to represent al the kingdom of this dying world) . It looked very cruel and terrifying. It looked very strong, with large iron teeth. (Satan the father of lies as a lion seeking to devour believers) This animal crushed and ate its victims (the unbelieving world) and walked given( understanding )on whatever was left of them. This fourth animal was different from all the animals I saw before it. This animal had ten horns.( all the kingdoms of the world ) “As I was looking, thrones (all Kingdoms of this world) were put in their places, and the Ancient King sat on his throne.. all the kingdoms of this world that have become the one Kingdom of Christ the invisible head the husband of the church. His clothes were as white as snow. (the purity of eternal God not seen) His hair (covering) was as white as wool.His throne (Judgment)was made from fire, and its wheels (the moving of justice) were made from flames. A river of fire flowed out from in front of the Ancient King.( Christ not seen) Millions of people (all the saints) were serving him. Hundreds of millions of people(all the saints) stood in front of him. Court was ready to begin, and the books (two books the book of life and the lambs book of life ) were opened.“I kept on looking because the little horn (Power of Christ) was bragging. I kept watching until finally the fourth animal (all the kingdoms of dying mankind) was killed. Its body (all kingdoms of thise world) was destroyed, and it was thrown into the burning fire. The authority and rule of the other animals had been taken from them. (That follow after the oral traditons of dying mankind rather than the authority of the living word ) But they were permitted to live for a certain period of time. “In my vision (not literally what the eyss see) at night I looked, and there in front of me was someone who loooked like a human being.(not a human ,God is not dying mankind ) He was coming on the clouds in the sky. (the invisible presence of Christ the husband) He came up to the Ancient King, and the King’s servants brought him before the King. “The one who looked like a human being (not human) was given authority, glory, and complete ruling power. People from every nation (all the kingdoms of the world ) and language group will serve him. His rule will last forever. His kingdom will continue forever. It will never be destroyed.

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[Josheb]

Greetings again EarlyActs,


We have discussed this previously. The Throne of David is to be located at Jerusalem, not heaven. Jesus was invited to sit at the right hand of the One God, Yahweh, God the Father in God the Father's Throne:
Psalm 110:1 (KJV): The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

And he stays there until the LORD defeats his enemies.

Revelation 3:21–22 (KJV): 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Which comes long after the thousand years of chapter 20.


Just saying

 

[EarlyActs]

Greetings again EarlyActs,


We have discussed this previously. The Throne of David is to be located at Jerusalem, not heaven. Jesus was invited to sit at the right hand of the One God, Yahweh, God the Father in God the Father's Throne:
Psalm 110:1 (KJV): The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Revelation 3:21–22 (KJV): 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Acts 2:29–36 (KJV): 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Jeremiah 3:17 (KJV): At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Micah 4:1–8 (KJV): 1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. 2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. 4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it. 5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever. 6 In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted; 7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever. 8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.

Kind regards
Trevor

The apostles had just been taught for 40 days what the psssages meant —Ps 2, 110, 118. I guess you think they got it wrong? (I have heard that taught before—that they were mistaken).

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings Josheb and Greetings again EarlyActs,

And he stays there until the LORD defeats his enemies. Which comes long after the thousand years of chapter 20.

I understand the "until" of Psalm 110:1 as the beginning of the 1000 years, at the start of the process of subduing his enemies:

Acts 2:34–36 (KJV): 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

The same word "Until" is used by Peter in his speech, and this is clearly speaking about the start of the Kingdom of God:
Acts 3:19–21 (KJV): 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
I have quoted some of these holy prophets and their message is very clear.

The apostles had just been taught for 40 days what the psssages meant —Ps 2, 110, 118. I guess you think they got it wrong? (I have heard that taught before—that they were mistaken).

It is quite evident that Peter got Psalm 110:1 right.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Josheb]

Greetings Josheb and Greetings again EarlyActs,

I understand the "until" of Psalm 110:1 as the beginning of the 1000 years, at the start of the process of subduing his enemies:

Why do you do that?

It's not what Acts 2 actually states. The book of Revelation makes it very clear Jesus was enthroned long before the 1000 years began. Jesus is enthroned in Revelation 1, not Revelation 20! In chapter 3 of Revelation Jesus is said to sit on his Father's throne, the throne of God Himself, not merely a throne to the geographic "right hand" of God's throne. Psalm 110:1's "Sit at my right hand..." begins long before the one thousand years. Acts 2 is asserting Jesus is already seated at/as his Father's right hand. The author of Hebrews explicitly states this is an already-happened occurrence.

Hebrews 12:1-2
Therefore, since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

That word "has" means it has already happened. Jesus had sat down at the right hand of the throne of God by the time the letter to the Hebrews was penned.

I am not trying to be snarky or unnecessarily confrontational. My inquiry is sincere and asked in hopes of an honest, forthcoming, and equally sincere self-disclosing answer. Given the evidence above, how is it you understand Psalm 110:1 to begin at the beginning of Revelation 20's thousand years when scripture elsewhere states it happened beforehand?


Remind me again of your eschatological bend so I have context for understanding your posts. If my memory serves me correctly, Christadelphians are premillennial. Is that correct for you, personally? Is your understanding of Psalm 110:1 being associated with Rev. 20's thousand years a product of your Christadelphian premillennialism?