Why Should Christians Be Concerned about the Correct Location of the Third TEMPLE.

[EarlyActs]

I agree its not but even in the N.T. epistles Paul warned the Jewish converts about reverting back to the law and the Author of Hebrews warns the same Jews of going back as well to their laws/traditions. And if one is Premillennial, Mid or Post they believe there will be a temple with the sacrificial system in place. I'm in that camp but not dogmatic about it.

I can’t follow the grammar of your first line

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Why Should Christians Be Concerned about the Correct Location of the Third TEMPLE.​

Since the "Third Temple" nothing but a "Worthless Jewish religio/political activity", where they build it is totally unimportant.

 

[VCO]

Since the "Third Temple" nothing but a "Worthless Jewish religio/political activity", where they build it is totally unimportant.

Not when you consider that it is a event that brings about the end of the Antichrist.
Nor the Fourth Temple Complex.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Not when you consider that it is a event that brings about the end of the Antichrist.
Nor the Fourth Temple Complex.

There is NO SPIRITUAL PURPOSE for a "Jewish Temple", or a "temple sacrifice", since that entire covenant passed away 2000 years ago. The likelyhood is that satan will GIVE THE JEWS a MAN that they will believe is THEIR MESSIAH. and that end time events will begin to unfold.

However, the LOCATION of the phony temple is unimportant. Only what will transpire IN IT.

 

[VCO]

There is NO SPIRITUAL PURPOSE for a "Jewish Temple", or a "temple sacrifice", since that entire covenant passed away 2000 years ago. The likelyhood is that satan will GIVE THE JEWS a MAN that they will believe is THEIR MESSIAH. and that end time events will begin to unfold.

However, the LOCATION of the phony temple is unimportant. Only what will transpire IN IT.

Isaiah 46:11 (HCSB)
11 I call a bird of prey from the east, a man for My purpose from a far country.
Yes, I have spoken; so I will also bring it about. I have planned it; I will also do it.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-10 (HCSB)
1 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him: We ask you, brothers,
2 not to be easily upset in mind or troubled, either by a spirit or by a message or by a letter as if from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has come.
3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For ⌊that day⌋ will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.
4 He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s sanctuary, publicizing that he himself is God.
5 Don’t you remember that when I was still with you I told you about this?
6 And you know what currently restrains ⌊him⌋, so that he will be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one now restraining will do so until he is out of the way,
8 and then the lawless one will be revealed. The Lord Jesus will destroy him with the breath of His mouth and will bring him to nothing with the brightness of His coming.
9 The coming ⌊of the lawless one⌋ is based on Satan’s working, with all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders,
10 and with every unrighteous deception among those who are perishing. ⌊They perish⌋ because they did not accept the love of the truth in order to be saved.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Isaiah 46:11 (HCSB)
11 I call a bird of prey from the east, a man for My purpose from a far country.
Yes, I have spoken; so I will also bring it about. I have planned it; I will also do it.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-10 (HCSB)
1 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him: We ask you, brothers,
2 not to be easily upset in mind or troubled, either by a spirit or by a message or by a letter as if from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has come.
3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For ⌊that day⌋ will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.
4 He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s sanctuary, publicizing that he himself is God.
5 Don’t you remember that when I was still with you I told you about this?
6 And you know what currently restrains ⌊him⌋, so that he will be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one now restraining will do so until he is out of the way,
8 and then the lawless one will be revealed. The Lord Jesus will destroy him with the breath of His mouth and will bring him to nothing with the brightness of His coming.
9 The coming ⌊of the lawless one⌋ is based on Satan’s working, with all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders,
10 and with every unrighteous deception among those who are perishing. ⌊They perish⌋ because they did not accept the love of the truth in order to be saved.

So what's all of that got to do with the "LOCATION" of the phony temple.

 

[EarlyActs]

So what's all of that got to do with the "LOCATION" of the phony temple.

Yes, there is so much imposition by Dispensational eschatology that people can hardly read what is actually there. For help on this see my pair THE ENTHRONED KING and THE COVENANT REVOLT. You will feel like you've never heard what NT times were like when you are done, not even watching THE CHOSEN, with a few exceptions. At Amazon.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Yes, there is so much imposition by Dispensational eschatology that people can hardly read what is actually there. For help on this see my pair THE ENTHRONED KING and THE COVENANT REVOLT. You will feel like you've never heard what NT times were like when you are done, not even watching THE CHOSEN, with a few exceptions. At Amazon.

So nothing, then.

 

[VCO]

So what's all of that got to do with the "LOCATION" of the phony temple.

That is the Real Location of the Third Temple.

Don't expect you to agree with that.

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Exits were covered by a tree, until very recently. Southern wall of the so-called Temple Mount, revealed an entrance just west of the southeast corner of the building. Tree was Cut down exposing that tunnel entrance to the Stables.

 

[VCO]

Continuance to the Tunnel Entrance:
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That means King Herod built this for the The Roman X Legion. As the Legion required.

 

[EarlyActs]

VCO, do you see that there is an entire view of the apostle's teaching that would never have to do with this kind of thing? Let me illustrate. In 1948 or so, a man found a stone in the rubble of Jerusalem, temple area, which he thought had the Hebrew for cornerstone on it. That writing is not the question. He actually thought it was Ps 118 happening!

Ps 118 happens to be one of the main four (with 2, 16, 110) that are about things that took place in the events of Christ. The Davidic vision expressed in Acts 2:30 was that the resurrection itself would be the enthronement, which is why Acts 2, 3, 4, 13, Rom 1, Eph 1, Col 1, Phil 2, Heb 1 read as they do about the enthronement.

 

[VCO]

VCO, do you see that there is an entire view of the apostle's teaching that would never have to do with this kind of thing? Let me illustrate. In 1948 or so, a man found a stone in the rubble of Jerusalem, temple area, which he thought had the Hebrew for cornerstone on it. That writing is not the question. He actually thought it was Ps 118 happening!

Ps 118 happens to be one of the main four (with 2, 16, 110) that are about things that took place in the events of Christ. The Davidic vision expressed in Acts 2:30 was that the resurrection itself would be the enthronement, which is why Acts 2, 3, 4, 13, Rom 1, Eph 1, Col 1, Phil 2, Heb 1 read as they do about the enthronement

Not at all. In fact, I never heard of such a thing even happening. I go to a non-denominational Church that is evangelical in their teaching.

 

[EarlyActs]

So you have never heard of the idea of the types/themes/motifs/images of the OT being fulfilled in Christ so that the previous is no longer needed? For ex., Jesus saying in Jn 4 'the hour is coming and now is when all who worship me will (worship neither in this mountain or that--Zion or the Samaritan one), but in spirit and truth'?

That is one of about 100 such instances. All through John, Hebrews, etc. I Cor 5: Christ our Paschal is sacrificed for us, let us keep the feast.

That would be the reason why the enthronement itself--maybe the most anticipated Messianic event--is actually the resurrection of Christ, as Acts 2:30, 31 say and the above list will show.

Acts 13 says the resurrection fulfilled all the promises to the fathers. That statement is the climax of a talk given at a synagogue and followed up with many quotes.

 

[VCO]

Here is were the TEMPLE was; it was south of the temple on the Ophel, 600 feet, as Josephus. That is a measurement from the Colonnades so it was due south of the grey roofed Mosque, on the so-called Temple Mount, about 500 feet. The Colonnades were dead even and ended up on top of the northern exterior wall of TEMPLE on the third floor. They were on Mt. ZION, the Ophel the original location were the Temple was.

 

[VCO]

TYPO = North Gate

 

[Hobie]

I have been on another site, been discussing the THIRD TEMPLE, and the actual Location of the Roman FORTRESS ANTONIA, for the Past 5 years. Don't worry, I will not post it all HERE. I will short cut to the Conclusion part of the discussion. So why should Christians be Concerned about the Correct Location of the THIRD TEMPLE?

If the Jews get it in the WRONG PLACE, GOD may not Honor the Prophecy, until they decide to MOVE IT TO THE CORRECT LOCATION. I KEEP READY Expecting the BRIDEGROOM at any time. If I KEEP READY, I will be Ready at the Pre-Tribulation. If I KEEP READY, I will be Ready at anytime there after. And I absolutely believe the Third Temple, after the Church-age is finished. It actually is the 70th Week of Daniel. So YES, I want to GO HOME.

I have found PROOF that the entire Fortress on the so-called TEMPLE Mount, is actually Fortress Antonia, Home of the Roman X Legion, which Caesar says every LEGION has to have 300 Horse, Cavalry. You can look that up. So How did I prove it. I thought No Body With a camera, had been in the Southeast corner of the so-called Temple Mount. However, a WWII British Commando, in 1944, after they chased the Nazi's clean out of ISRAEL was stationed in Jerusalem. He and others went in down in that STABLE with a Muslim escort and took Pictures. His daughter found the Pictures in a box in one of his drawers. She wanted the world to see them, and gave them to a Veterans organization, so those Pictures are what they call Public Domain. One Picture my eye; their was an X up top, carved in with a knife Point, and below that there was K Stamped into BLOCK with a giant Stencil with a sledge hammer. I was Pretty sure the X stood for the Roman X EQUESTRIS (their word for Cavalry). But What does the K stand for ? ? ? I FOUND IT, and I almost FELL OVER shout for Joy. There was a multi-nation Equestris Organization that wanted to mark Horse Stalls so that everyone KNEW WHAT THE K STOOD FOR, no mater what language they SPOKE. It stands this Horse Stall is reserved for the EMPEROR/KING. There was the Proof that I had been searching for 5 years. King Herod built this Fortress for the ROMAN X LEGION. On Top of it ALL I found two hidden gates about a year ago, on the South side, have ways between the TRIPLE GATES and the Southeast CORNER. They has cut down a TREE that hid them.

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Below X on Ground floor,

Now for the other part, if the TEMPLE WAS not up top, where was it.

Flavius Josephus says the north wall of the TEMPLE was 600 feet south of the wall were the Stable Gates are.
Now Josephus had a VERY important Position at the age of 14, he was one of the Counselor to the High Priest.
It does not say, but at some point he became a Christian, from ultra orthodox Jew, to probably being fired from
his job as a Counselor to the High Priest. He then took a Job with the ROMANS as their HISTORIAN. And every
one of the Jews turned against him, and his writings.

QUOTE:

having its bending above the fountain Siloam (Pool of Siloam); where it also bends again towards the east at Solomon’s pool, and reaches as far as a certain place which they called Ophlas [what they now call the OPHEL], where it was joined to the eastern cloister of the temple. The second wall took its beginning from that gate which they called Gennath, which belonged to the first wall. It only encompassed the northern quarter of the city, and reached as far as the tower Antonia. -
Josephus - The Jewish War - Book V - chapter 4
END QUOTE:

Tower of Antonia, was a 5th Tower, under the bend of the ROAD, as it turns west, along the southeastern part of the so-called Temple Mount, perfect for spying on the ZELLOTS in the Temple.

That enough for Now.

Satan wants us to be distracted by his 'snipe hunts' rather than what comes from scripture, it clearly says that the city of God, the New Jerusalem will come down from heaven. We shall worship Christ face to face..

 

[VCO]

Satan wants us to be distracted by his 'snipe hunts' rather than what comes from scripture, it clearly says that the city of God, the New Jerusalem will come down from heaven. We shall worship Christ face to face..

Do you know why I Believe the NEW world's is absolutely hinged on the placement of the TEMPLE? It it because the Jewish Temple happens AFTER the Church Age is Finished. You have GOT the New Jerusalem in the Wrong Place. It is After the Millennium, that is when the New Jerusalem will come down from Heaven.

 

[VCO]

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Look at how accurate this artists picture is.
Look How this artist pictured the Temple, in the 1870s. On the Ophel, we know that because it is up hill, were as had it been up hill as far as the so-called Temple Rock, it would had been down hill into the Valley of Jehosaphat. Also Notice the bridge across the southwest corner of the Temple Complex to get across the Tyropoean Valley. AND Noticed the East side of it drops off to the Kidron Valley floor. Much the same as I has it before I found this Picture:

That yellow Circle is were King David, made his sacrifices.

 

[Josheb]

Why Should Christians Be Concerned about the Correct Location of the Third TEMPLE?​

Christians should not be concerned with this matter because there will be no third temple.

Nowhere does scripture explicitly state another temple other than Christ and his body will be built. All prophetic references to the temple should be understood to be about Christ resurrected and his body f believers (1 Cor. 3:16) and not a temple of stone built by human hands. Every mention of the word, "temple," occurs when either a temple is still standing, or the temple of Christ is pending. The belief in a future stone temple is not only something nowhere stated in scripture, it is solely, always and everywhere, a position reached by an inferential reading of scripture to presumes a stone temple. It is not something scripture explicitly reports will be built in our future.

No third temple of stone will be built.

 

[EarlyActs]

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Look at how accurate this artists picture is.
Look How this artist pictured the Temple, in the 1870s. On the Ophel, we know that because it is up hill, were as had it been up hill as far as the so-called Temple Rock, it would had been down hill into the Valley of Jehosaphat. Also Notice the bridge across the southwest corner of the Temple Complex to get across the Tyropoean Valley. AND Noticed the East side of it drops off to the Kidron Valley floor. Much the same as I has it before I found this Picture:

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That yellow Circle is were King David, made his sacrifices.

Do you actually think Judaism-by-Christians is going to happen?