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[jeremiah1five]

Non-sequitur. . .

Wasting my time here.

Jesus fulfilled the Law.
Jesus was the Lamb of God who took the place of the animal sacrifice which blood and atonement was made for the children of Israel.

If you can show me in Scripture the high priest leaving Israel's borders and going to Gentiles like the tribes of Ammon, Moab, and the other non-Hebrew Gentile tribes and offering sacrifices and praying for the Gentiles then the Gentile belief that Jesus died for Gentiles is a lie that has no biblical foundation.
The animal sacrifices done yearly for the children of Israel was in place by God looking forward to the time God would send His own Son, made of a woman and made under the Law to REDEEM THOSE UNDER THE LAW (Gal. 4:4-5) to atone for the sins of the children of Israel as per covenant and as per prophecies.

Now you can leave.

 

[brightfame52]

Jesus fulfilled the Law.
Jesus was the Lamb of God who took the place of the animal sacrifice which blood and atonement was made for the children of Israel.

If you can show me in Scripture the high priest leaving Israel's borders and going to Gentiles like the tribes of Ammon, Moab, and the other non-Hebrew Gentile tribes and offering sacrifices and praying for the Gentiles then the Gentile belief that Jesus died for Gentiles is a lie that has no biblical foundation.
The animal sacrifices done yearly for the children of Israel was in place by God looking forward to the time God would send His own Son, made of a woman and made under the Law to REDEEM THOSE UNDER THE LAW (Gal. 4:4-5) to atone for the sins of the children of Israel as per covenant and as per prophecies.

Now you can leave.

Scripture says Jesus is High Priest Heb 2 17

Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Heb 8 1


Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

Is Jesus the High Priest for His Body the Church ? Eph 1 20

Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

 

[jeremiah1five]

Scripture says Jesus is High Priest Heb 2 17

Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Heb 8 1


Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

Is Jesus the High Priest for His Body the Church ? Eph 1 20

Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

I agree with Scripture.

But I'm guessing you're trying to pass off "Church" in Ephesians 1:20 as Gentiles, which would make you wrong.
The Church Christ Promised to build began with 3000 Jews. And for the next four decades Jews were predominantly the people in His body and Church.
God made no covenant with Gentiles and Gentiles got nothing coming.
But if you're Gentile with Abraham's DNA in your family ancestry you're good, but it doesn't guarantee salvation. Isaac had Esau and Jacob, but the promise went to Jacob.

 

[brightfame52]

I agree with Scripture.

But I'm guessing you're trying to pass off "Church" in Ephesians 1:20 as Gentiles, which would make you wrong.
The Church Christ Promised to build began with 3000 Jews. And for the next four decades Jews were predominantly the people in His body and Church.
God made no covenant with Gentiles and Gentiles got nothing coming.
But if you're Gentile with Abraham's DNA in your family ancestry you're good, but it doesn't guarantee salvation. Isaac had Esau and Jacob, but the promise went to Jacob.

Who is Eph 1:20 speaking of ? Eph 1:20-22

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

 

[brightfame52]

I agree with Scripture.

But I'm guessing you're trying to pass off "Church" in Ephesians 1:20 as Gentiles, which would make you wrong.
The Church Christ Promised to build began with 3000 Jews. And for the next four decades Jews were predominantly the people in His body and Church.
God made no covenant with Gentiles and Gentiles got nothing coming.
But if you're Gentile with Abraham's DNA in your family ancestry you're good, but it doesn't guarantee salvation. Isaac had Esau and Jacob, but the promise went to Jacob.

Who does this refer to ? Col 3:1

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
And is Christ the High Priest of this people as He is of these, at Gods Right Hand Heb 8:1

Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

 

[brightfame52]

@jeremiah1five

Jews were predominantly the people in His body and Church.
God made no covenant with Gentiles and Gentiles got nothing coming.

Are Gentiles included here in this promise 1 Cor 3:21-23

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;

22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;

23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Who is Eph 1:20 speaking of ? Eph 1:20-22

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

And the Church are identified as the Great Congregation in the Pentateuch in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle, namely, the children of Israel. The children of Israel were 3000 thousand Jews born-again who laid the foundation of the Jewish Church and the Church Christ promised to build as per covenant and prophecy.

Who does this refer to ? Col 3:1

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
And is Christ the High Priest of this people as He is of these, at Gods Right Hand Heb 8:1

Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

Under the Law the high priest ministered in things under covenant concerning the children of Israel.
As High Priest Christ fulfills this service to and for the children of Israel as per the Law of Moses.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Who does this refer to ? Col 3:1

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
And is Christ the High Priest of this people as He is of these, at Gods Right Hand Heb 8:1

Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

The "high priest of this people" refers to the children of Israel, for as High Priest under the Law He fulfilled the service of the high priest of the Aaronic Priesthood, a priesthood serving the children of Israel.

 

[jeremiah1five]

@jeremiah1five



Are Gentiles included here in this promise 1 Cor 3:21-23

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;

22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;

23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

No. God has no covenant with Gentiles.

The New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation are written by Jewish Christians to and for Jews and Jewish Christians discussing, explaining, and interpreting Old Testament prophecies and covenants concerning the New Covenant Israel/children of Israel instantly found itself in beginning on the day of the Feast of Harvests with the Advent of the Holy Spirit of Promise who was promised to Israel.
Scripture cannot be broken.

 

[brightfame52]

And the Church are identified as the Great Congregation in the Pentateuch in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle, namely, the children of Israel. The children of Israel were 3000 thousand Jews born-again who laid the foundation of the Jewish Church and the Church Christ promised to build as per covenant and prophecy.

Under the Law the high priest ministered in things under covenant concerning the children of Israel.
As High Priest Christ fulfills this service to and for the children of Israel as per the Law of Moses.

Is Christ the High Priest for the Church, His Body, at the Right Hand of God ? Simple yes or no friend.

 

[brightfame52]

The "high priest of this people" refers to the children of Israel, for as High Priest under the Law He fulfilled the service of the high priest of the Aaronic Priesthood, a priesthood serving the children of Israel.

In Col 3:1

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

Is Christ here High Priest for these believers ? Yes or No

 

[brightfame52]

No. God has no covenant with Gentiles.

The New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation are written by Jewish Christians to and for Jews and Jewish Christians discussing, explaining, and interpreting Old Testament prophecies and covenants concerning the New Covenant Israel/children of Israel instantly found itself in beginning on the day of the Feast of Harvests with the Advent of the Holy Spirit of Promise who was promised to Israel.
Scripture cannot be broken.

So you deny that the Church here in 1 Cor 3: inherits all things and all belongs to them due to their belonging to Christ ?

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;

22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;

23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Is Christ the High Priest for the Church, His Body, at the Right Hand of God ? Simple yes or no friend.

Christ is High Priest serving Israel under the Mosaic Covenant, which now fulfilled became the New Covenant.

The Church ("called out [ones]") is Israel also identified as the Great Congregation in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle, after having been called out of Egypt by the God of Abraham.
Israel being born-again in the first century became spiritual Israel until the destruction of their Temple by the Romans and Christ slowed building His Church, God gave Israel slumber, and the world entered the Times of the Gentiles until Daniel's seventieth week in which God turns His attention back to Israel, removes their blindness, sends two witnesses, and soon brings all human history to a close culminating with ALL Israel being saved, every Hebrew and seed of Abraham because God made covenant with Abraham and his seed and God will keep all remaining promises, even the giving to Israel all their Promised Land.

The error you and other Gentiles continue to make is to try to insert yourselves in the Hebrew Covenants, always using vague or misinterpreted NT passages to prove Gentiles in the Hebrew covenants when such interpretations would break Scripture, not really break it but the misinterpretations would contradict the Word of God in the Hebrew Scripture, for if there is no Old Testament precedence/prophecy then there is no New Testament reality.
Line upon line means something to God and to us, His born-again people.

And since there is no passage in the OT of God having covenant with Gentiles the only reasonable conclusion for presumed Gentiles who are born-again is that they are Abraham's seed and a mixed offspring of Jew-Gentiles somewhere in their family ancestry, just as Samaritans.

It is important to identify "Church" because you interpret it as being Gentile when it is not.

 

[jeremiah1five]

So you deny that the Church here in 1 Cor 3: inherits all things and all belongs to them due to their belonging to Christ ?

I believe the Church is Israel and as a called-out people are inheritors of the Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New Covenants.
God made no covenant with Gentiles. None. The OT is a history of God's dealing with the Hebrew people.
The NT is discussion, sharing, informing, explaining the New Covenant era Israel instantly found themselves in as a result of the Advent of their Holy Spirit of Promise.

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;
22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;
23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

Everything God promised to Abraham and his seed who are now identified as the children of Jacob/Israel will receive everything God promised this elect people no matter how much Gentiles interfere and try to steal Israel's inheritance and their Messiah.

 

[brightfame52]

Christ is High Priest serving Israel under the Mosaic Covenant, which now fulfilled became the New Covenant.

The Church ("called out [ones]") is Israel also identified as the Great Congregation in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle, after having been called out of Egypt by the God of Abraham.
Israel being born-again in the first century became spiritual Israel until the destruction of their Temple by the Romans and Christ slowed building His Church, God gave Israel slumber, and the world entered the Times of the Gentiles until Daniel's seventieth week in which God turns His attention back to Israel, removes their blindness, sends two witnesses, and soon brings all human history to a close culminating with ALL Israel being saved, every Hebrew and seed of Abraham because God made covenant with Abraham and his seed and God will keep all remaining promises, even the giving to Israel all their Promised Land.

The error you and other Gentiles continue to make is to try to insert yourselves in the Hebrew Covenants, always using vague or misinterpreted NT passages to prove Gentiles in the Hebrew covenants when such interpretations would break Scripture, not really break it but the misinterpretations would contradict the Word of God in the Hebrew Scripture, for if there is no Old Testament precedence/prophecy then there is no New Testament reality.
Line upon line means something to God and to us, His born-again people.

And since there is no passage in the OT of God having covenant with Gentiles the only reasonable conclusion for presumed Gentiles who are born-again is that they are Abraham's seed and a mixed offspring of Jew-Gentiles somewhere in their family ancestry, just as Samaritans.

It is important to identify "Church" because you interpret it as being Gentile when it is not.

Is Christ the High Priest for the Church, His Body, at the Right Hand of God ? Simple yes or no friend.

 

[brightfame52]

I believe the Church is Israel and as a called-out people are inheritors of the Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New Covenants.
God made no covenant with Gentiles. None. The OT is a history of God's dealing with the Hebrew people.
The NT is discussion, sharing, informing, explaining the New Covenant era Israel instantly found themselves in as a result of the Advent of their Holy Spirit of Promise.

Everything God promised to Abraham and his seed who are now identified as the children of Jacob/Israel will receive everything God promised this elect people no matter how much Gentiles interfere and try to steal Israel's inheritance and their Messiah.

So you deny that the Church here in 1 Cor 3: inherits all things and all belongs to them due to their belonging to Christ ?

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;

22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;

23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Is Christ the High Priest for the Church, His Body, at the Right Hand of God ? Simple yes or no friend.

Christ is High Priest to and for the Children of Israel who are also identified as the Church and the Bride.

 

[jeremiah1five]

So you deny that the Church here in 1 Cor 3: inherits all things and all belongs to them due to their belonging to Christ ?

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;

22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;

23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

Nope.

I disagree with your unbiblical interpretation that the Church Christ began building at Pentecost are Gentiles.
The Church is the Hebrew people in covenant with God "called out" of Egypt. Only then they are called the Great Congregation as named in Scripture in many places, especially in Psalms where the worship of Jehovah is described.
They are the Great Congregation of Hebrews "called out" (Church = Gr. "ekklesia") of Egypt, a people numbering over three million people with whom God made covenant with and gave them His Law to live by and under. Non-Hebrew Gentiles do not have any covenant with God and pretty much 'got nuthin' coming.'
Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero.

But if you have Abraham's DNA in your family ancestry no matter the dilution you are still in covenant with God and recipient of the promises given to Abraham.

 

[brightfame52]

Christ is High Priest to and for the Children of Israel who are also identified as the Church and the Bride.

The Church has Gentiles in it.

 

[brightfame52]

Nope.

I disagree with your unbiblical interpretation that the Church Christ began building at Pentecost are Gentiles.
The Church is the Hebrew people in covenant with God "called out" of Egypt. Only then they are called the Great Congregation as named in Scripture in many places, especially in Psalms where the worship of Jehovah is described.
They are the Great Congregation of Hebrews "called out" (Church = Gr. "ekklesia") of Egypt, a people numbering over three million people with whom God made covenant with and gave them His Law to live by and under. Non-Hebrew Gentiles do not have any covenant with God and pretty much 'got nuthin' coming.'
Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero.

But if you have Abraham's DNA in your family ancestry no matter the dilution you are still in covenant with God and recipient of the promises given to Abraham.

The Church began with Adam and Eve and is comprised of people of all ethnicities, here it is Rev 5:9-10

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.