'Edit' your post> go to his post> select and click on the 'quote' popup> go back down to your post edit, place your cursor where you want to insert the quote and click on the "Insert Quotes" button? --I don't know. That's what I would do.
Then explain it to me/ Because o lot of people have tried. No one has succeeded.
He created us in his image
Which means GOD choses what he will do. And what he will nto do Not us.
Oh I agree.
I think he tried that already. I passed
If you must look at it backwards, assume as a given, the fact that we do choose.
Oh, by the way, I have found that the post I wish to quote and answer does not quote if I am off-line. (I can write an answer while offline, but not send it.)
Or assume the fact that God created a being like us to serve us and to love us. But did not want us to be robots. He wanted to prove his love. He also wanted to prove what would happen if we walk away from his love. So like in romans 1.
its amazing it even allows you to write while offline.. Thats good to know.
Is 46 is God talking about his prophets. who he speaks of things to come, He declares the end from the beginning. He will accomplish all his purpose.
I agree.
Calvinists do everything they can to deny God is like us?
You make this about us. You draw implications from your point of view, not using Romans 1 to prove your point of view, but to interpret Romans 1 according to your point of view. I don't want to call it circular, as I don't want to invoke 4.4 and I'm not sure that's the word I want anyway, but I don't think this is proof of your point of view. So your points 1-3 don't result in 4, even with your use of "allowed" in place of "caused".
1. How is understanding what you say, or the way you say it, is one way and then another, and pointing this out, mocking? Is the fault mine for seeing it that way, or is the fault in how you are expressing yourself?
So you disagree. Just say you disagree.
Oh here we go
Read the whole book f the word. What does the Bible teach us about god. Does it not say he will take care of all our needs. We can trust him we can rest in hdid
That's far from all I said. It is silly to just say, "I disagree", without explaining why or in what way one disagrees.
My theology comes from the same place that that assessment does. The Bible is entirely God-centered. As in, "...for from him and through him and to him are all things." But your notion that God is here to 'serve man and love him', whatever that means, is not what Scripture says. We are here for him, and not for ourselves. He is not here for us, but for his own glory. That he gives us what we need is only part of his plan that includes us, and it is so wildly beyond us, that we are lifted up by the mere consideration, rather than to be satisfied by what we get now as though that was the end of consideration on the matter.
That's far from all I was saying. It is silly to just say, "I disagree", without explaining why or in what way one disagrees.
What has that to do with proving your point? That he gives us all we need does not mean that this is about US.
Verse, please. I'll happily deal with each instance. Please don't 'proof text' out of context.
I don't know how you can read the Word and not see that this is all about God, unless by a human-centered worldview.
Where else would our needs come from? Who causes it to rain on the righteous and the unrighteous? Whose faithfulness sustains all of creation; sets the boundaries of the oceans; supplies food for the birds, and beasts, cattle; keeps the stars and planets in their orbit? Does any of that bring glory to any but himself?
My Bible tells me it was through sinful man being redeemed that he was doing something far bigger, that has nothing to do with us. Do you know what that is?
Did someone say it did? By "caused" I assume you are not using the theological use of first and second cause or providence, but are using it as "made him do it"?
