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How Are We Saved?

How Are We Saved?

  • By receiving the baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues

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  • By joining the Roman Catholic Church

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  • By water baptism in Jesus's name for the remission of sins

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • By keeping the sabbath commandment

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  • By joining Jehovah's Witnesses

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  • By joining Mormonism

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  • Total voters
    13

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How are we saved?

Poll provided.

Feel free to provide a scripture or two for your choice(s) in the replies below.
 
I voted the first choice!

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.... 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
 
Out of those choices I picked 1 which is part of the gospel but not the entire gospel message. The Resurrection is central to the gospel and without it our faith is in vain but it includes His death for our sins, burial and raised on the 3rd day according to the scriptures and He was seen over 40 days by many people/witnesses and last of all appeared to Paul. :)
 
Out of those choices I picked 1 which is part of the gospel but not the entire gospel message. The Resurrection is central to the gospel and without it our faith is in vain but it includes His death for our sins, burial and raised on the 3rd day according to the scriptures and He was seen over 40 days by many people/witnesses and last of all appeared to Paul. :)
I did include that God had raised Him from the dead in that first choice for how we are saved by believing in as well as in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Thanks for voting.
 
Out of those choices I picked 1 which is part of the gospel but not the entire gospel message. The Resurrection is central to the gospel and without it our faith is in vain but it includes His death for our sins, burial and raised on the 3rd day according to the scriptures and He was seen over 40 days by many people/witnesses and last of all appeared to Paul. :)
Something I had learned from the Lord while discussing with some members in the forum.

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
From these passages, I understood that our believing in Jesus Christ is the work of the Father, but I learned just how much it is.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Since faith comes by hearing the word of God and the Holy Ghost came on the Gentiles that heard the word, and seeing how the fruit of the Spirit is singular thus alluding that when you have the Holy Ghost, you have the faith; hence our believing in Jesus Christ.

So when the Father gave us to the Son to save us; by baptizing us with the Holy Ghost at the hearing of the gospel is how faith came also.

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

So the Father gave us faith in Jesus Christ & the Holy Ghost at the same time at the hearing of the gospel. Still boggled by it.

If any saved believer out there doubted that they have the Holy Ghost or that they were born again, just by believing in Him is proof of that.

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith..... 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Kind of reminds me of Adam's sin which was not believing the Word of God for why he had hearkened unto the word of a woman. And so salvation comes by the grace of God by the Father enabling us by baptizing us with the Holy Spirit in believing in Jesus Christ at the hearing of the gospel.
 
I believe One is saved by the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ, that is His Work in His Obedience unto death saves completely those He died for, providing them both legal and Spiritual Salvation 1 Pet 2:24-25

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
 
I go along with these 2 quotes which makes one contemplate the question all the more IMO:

Calvin, John. Institutes of the Christian Religion: We shall now have a full definition of faith if we say that it is a firm and sure knowledge of the divine favor toward us, founded on the truth of a free promise in Christ. Knowledge of faith consists more of certainty than discernment.”

Herman Bavinck – Reformed Dogmatics: There is a danger in reducing the faith to quantitative measurement. Such an arithmetic of belief obscures the qualitative, gracious, person, organic relation to Christ. Faith is trust in the grace of God and not calculable. The content of faith is not reducible to an arithmetic addition of articles. All believers, in principle, share the same knowledge and trust in the grace of God to save.


So I believe one is saved by faith which must have content; something to believe. I believe the content consists of three things:
  1. Jesus has the power to save me
  2. Jesus is Lord; He calls the shots
  3. Jesus is God (John 20:31; 1 John 5:31)
So, I only picked the top option of the poll but that has one caveat: I don't believe that one must believe that God raised Christ from the dead to be saved. Obviously, God did raise Christ from the dead and there is theological issues if that is not the case ... but technically and hesitantly I don't think one has to believe that fact to be saved. If I had to argue against my stance I would use 1 Cor. 15:4.
 
We are saved by God’s GRACE. …Selah

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

- Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
Yes, in according to post # 5 as explained, the Father drew us unto the Son to reveal His Son to us and at the hearing of the gospel, He gave us to His Son to save us by His grace for how we had received faith & the Holy Spirit at the hearing of the gospel.

Thanks for sharing that we are saved by grace "thru faith".
 
I believe One is saved by the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ, that is His Work in His Obedience unto death saves completely those He died for, providing them both legal and Spiritual Salvation 1 Pet 2:24-25

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
Well, certainly the provision for our salvation has been provided, but it is by how we are saved is the question.

How does one receive the remission of sins provided by Him?

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

And since faith comes by hearing the word of God and those who heard the word, receive the Holy Ghost, and with faith being a fruit of the Spirit; dare we say that the Father gave us to the son to save us by giving us faith & the Holy Ghost so we can believe in Him by the grace of God? I'd say yes.
 
I go along with these 2 quotes which makes one contemplate the question all the more IMO:

Calvin, John. Institutes of the Christian Religion: We shall now have a full definition of faith if we say that it is a firm and sure knowledge of the divine favor toward us, founded on the truth of a free promise in Christ. Knowledge of faith consists more of certainty than discernment.”

Herman Bavinck – Reformed Dogmatics: There is a danger in reducing the faith to quantitative measurement. Such an arithmetic of belief obscures the qualitative, gracious, person, organic relation to Christ. Faith is trust in the grace of God and not calculable. The content of faith is not reducible to an arithmetic addition of articles. All believers, in principle, share the same knowledge and trust in the grace of God to save.


So I believe one is saved by faith which must have content; something to believe. I believe the content consists of three things:
  1. Jesus has the power to save me
  2. Jesus is Lord; He calls the shots
  3. Jesus is God (John 20:31; 1 John 5:31)
So, I only picked the top option of the poll but that has one caveat: I don't believe that one must believe that God raised Christ from the dead to be saved. Obviously, God did raise Christ from the dead and there is theological issues if that is not the case ... but technically and hesitantly I don't think one has to believe that fact to be saved. If I had to argue against my stance I would use 1 Cor. 15:4.
1 Corinthians 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

Something to reconsider and pray about. If a believer does not believe that about God having raised Him from the dead, what is he or she hoping for in calling on Jesus to save them from unless He had demonstrated that He conquered death as it has lost its sting?
 
By Grace THROUGH faith Eph 2:8-9. faith alone does not save Grace God Riches At Christ Expense by Faith we accept it
 
We are saved by grace through faith as @Selah has correctly and succinctly pointed out.

The multiple choice points above didn't put it together enough for me, and seem to be a bit of begging the question.

Salvation begins with repentance and belief which are evidence of, and go hand in hand with true conversion. Romans 6; John 5:24; 1 John 5:1; John 8:34-36 &c.
Are you then agreeing with @Sheila3 multiple votes in choosing #1 By faith in Jesus Christ & God raised Him from the dead and #4 By making a commitment to follow Christ & #5 By evidence of works as faith without works are dead & finally # 8 By repenting from sin(s) ?

Or are you differing from her votes in some way from how you say salvation begins with repentance and belief which are evidence of?

FYI @CrazyCalvinistUncle did vote for #1 & # 8 too, so maybe you are closer to if not totally in alignment to what he believes?

I would say belief and repentance is evidence of what the Father has done in giving us the Holy Spirit & faith when we heard the gospel for how we believe in Jesus Christ and are saved simultaneously when the Father did that. See post # 5 for scriptures testifying to that effect.
 
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I go along with these 2 quotes which makes one contemplate the question all the more IMO:

Calvin, John. Institutes of the Christian Religion: We shall now have a full definition of faith if we say that it is a firm and sure knowledge of the divine favor toward us, founded on the truth of a free promise in Christ. Knowledge of faith consists more of certainty than discernment.”

Herman Bavinck – Reformed Dogmatics: There is a danger in reducing the faith to quantitative measurement. Such an arithmetic of belief obscures the qualitative, gracious, person, organic relation to Christ. Faith is trust in the grace of God and not calculable. The content of faith is not reducible to an arithmetic addition of articles. All believers, in principle, share the same knowledge and trust in the grace of God to save.


So I believe one is saved by faith which must have content; something to believe. I believe the content consists of three things:
  1. Jesus has the power to save me
  2. Jesus is Lord; He calls the shots
  3. Jesus is God (John 20:31; 1 John 5:31)
So, I only picked the top option of the poll but that has one caveat: I don't believe that one must believe that God raised Christ from the dead to be saved. Obviously, God did raise Christ from the dead and there is theological issues if that is not the case ... but technically and hesitantly I don't think one has to believe that fact to be saved. If I had to argue against my stance I would use 1 Cor. 15:4.
read 1st Corinthians 15
12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. ia m sure John Calvin among other great men . was godly people.. but there are only men.
 
By Grace THROUGH faith Eph 2:8-9. faith alone does not save Grace God Riches At Christ Expense by Faith we accept it
Probably need to clarify that please.

If you consider that faith comes by hearing the word of God and those who heard the word, had received the holy Spirit, and with faith being a fruit of the Holy Spirit, faith in Jesus Christ is evidence of salvation for you have the Holy Ghost & thus born again of the Spirit.

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
 
@ezra .... seems you brought up the same good point as below
1 Corinthians 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
Agreed. I also pointed out that there is a big problem if Christ did not arise from the dead and you verses add clarity to that point. That being said, the verse does not say one has to believe "Christ arose from the dead to be saved". For a practical matter, I don't think believer believes Christ is dead. I just propose that if someone thinks "Christ is dead", bizarre as that may sound, then that might not disqualify their salvation.


Something to reconsider and pray about.
You make a good point. I myself said my point might be invalid per 1 Cor. 15:4.
I don't see the need to pray about it. I believe Christ is alive and every believer I know believe Christ is alive. I was just putting out a technical point to consider. I also showed that Calvin and Bavinck both said that salvation consisted more of certainty than discernment.

Good Thread
 
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