Gen 6...who are the sons of God?

[GeneZ]

Thanks…it is a problem that makes for a less friendly and edifying experience.

Its saddening to see.

So much more could be understood and give believers inner stability and strength that comes with understanding.

 

[Michael Snow]

Gen 6...who are the sons of God?

Are they descendents of Seth?
Are they descendents of Cain?
Are they powerful human rulers?
Are they angels?

Who and or what are the Nephilim the offspring of the marriages?


Gen 6
1 Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.

3 So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.”

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and afterward as well—when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.

Dr. Michael Brown: “Isn’t it interesting that one of the most obscure verses in the Bible is the subject of so much conversation and speculation?”​

“Let’s not try to read too much into it.”
Here, in CONTEXT: https://textsincontext.wordpress.com/2017/01/24/who-are-the-nephilim-dr-michael-l-brown/

 

[Mr GLee]

They made sexual relations on earth, where no angel ought.

They were not appearing as men on earth to be worshipped.

Nor were they sent by God to rule over men.

Satan sent them to sin in sensual sex, that produced giants on the earth.

Sons of God born again Christians.

The idea that a invisible creation would seem to come when mankind looks to another invisible source of faith other than Christ our husband who dwells in us . He sends his apostles two by two. It would be quite difficult to entertain someone not seen other that Emanuel yoked with Christ

Hebrews 13:1-3King James Version Let brotherly love (not angels) continue. Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels (sent messenger) unawares. Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.

 

[Mr GLee]

Dr. Michael Brown: “Isn’t it interesting that one of the most obscure verses in the Bible is the subject of so much conversation and speculation?”​

“Let’s not try to read too much into it.”
Here, in CONTEXT: https://textsincontext.wordpress.com/2017/01/24/who-are-the-nephilim-dr-michael-l-brown/

Sons of God. . . . born again sons of mankind used 7 times in the new to represent Christians Those led by the Spirit that woks within mighty men

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

The key word "renown" mighty men. Renown used 11 times in the old as mighty men under the authroity of another . Mighty men used in that way 85 times old and new .

A neutral word that speaks to the heroes of both groups Goliath a man of renown against Gods renown .

Numbers 16:2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

Isaiah 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Ezekiel 16:15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was

 

[CrowCross]

Dr. Michael Brown: “Isn’t it interesting that one of the most obscure verses in the Bible is the subject of so much conversation and speculation?”​

“Let’s not try to read too much into it.”
Here, in CONTEXT: https://textsincontext.wordpress.com/2017/01/24/who-are-the-nephilim-dr-michael-l-brown/

Your article didn't even present Enoch.(the seventh from Adam) That leaves a HUGE gaping hole in what you presented.

This "Obscure" verse has a lot of reason for being written into Genesis 6....it doesn't say much but other ancient Hebrew writings do.
Ancient writings referred to by Jude, Peter as well as Jesus....

 

[CrowCross]

Sons of God born again Christians.

So, it was born again Christians mentioned in Gen 6? I'm having a hard time following that.

 

[Mr GLee]

So, it was born again Christians mentioned in Gen 6? I'm having a hard time following that.

Yes it was a born again believer the warning was not to be unevenly yoked

Abel the first.

 

[GeneZ]

If more believers would understand that angels were originally created with the intent that they would in the future be able to procreate?
That is why we find some procreating in Genesis 6. If they can make the connection?
That they were created to be able to procreate. But, would have only been allowed to after they had first completed the work God gave them for the prehistoric creation. Just like Adam was created virile when created, but needed to wait until after he fulfilled God's assignment for him, by naming all the animals before God would gift Adam with his female for procreation...

Because Satan rebelled and gathered other angels around him to refuse to do the work assigned angels for the prehistoric world?
The angels were left virile, but as a consequence for their rebellion, no helpmate was to be given. In a way, God had revenge on those angels when God showed them what they could have had by the example Adam and the Woman who openly displayed lovemaking without shame in the Garden. God granted his faithful angels peaceful celibacy. But, the fallen ones? Were left to agonize every time they saw a man and woman making fantastic lovemaking...

If enough could correlate Scripture and see what had taken place? We today? Would not be confused as to why we see so much homosexuality within witchcraft and the occult, and in evil people in general.

Now... that is the basis for finding homosexuality's appearance within mankind as fallen angels influenced mankind.

But, what I said?

Is not to mean that all who find themselves being homosexual is to mean they are evil and reprobate.
Not at all!

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers
nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards
nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
And that is what some of you were. But you were washed,
you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the
Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."


1 Corinthians 6:9-11​

 

[CrowCross]

If more believers would understand that angels were originally created with the intent that they would in the future be able to procreate?

That is a possibility but do you have a biblical or non-biblical means of supporting that?

 

[Mr GLee]

Your article didn't even present Enoch.(the seventh from Adam) That leaves a HUGE gaping hole in what you presented.

This "Obscure" verse has a lot of reason for being written into Genesis 6....it doesn't say much but other ancient Hebrew writings do.
Ancient writings referred to by Jude, Peter as well as Jesus....

It would appear using the second born to represent born again. A man must be born again

Abel the first born again .He was murdered and Enos a second born replaced Abel .It was then when the born again doctrine came into effect calling on Christ the spiritual seed

It was passed on from one second born to another until the birth of the Son of man The first born of God .

Genisis 4:24-25 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold. And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

 

[GeneZ]

That is a possibility but do you have a biblical or non-biblical means of supporting that?

Genesis Six is screaming that reality at you!

Some just can't handle it. Some will refuse.
Closed mind.

 

[CrowCross]

Genesis Six is screaming that reality at you!

The reality is angels had hybrids with human women.

Some just can't handle it. Some will refuse.
Closed mind.

 

[GeneZ]

Yes it was a born again believer the warning was not to be unevenly yoked

Abel the first.

There was no such command given.
It would have to read more like ....

Do not touch the woman of the heathens!
... because when you do?
You will start producing basketball, super stars!

Want to have a winning basket ball team?
Get believers to marry unbelievers!!!

Its plainly dumb when its presented that way.
Yet, that is what some wish for us to believe!

.... why do they think that way???

 

[Mr GLee]

There was no such command given.
It would have to read more like ....

Do not touch the woman of the heathens!
... because when you do?
You will start producing basketball, super stars!

Want to have a winning basket ball team?
Get believers to marry unbelievers!!!

Its plainly dumb when its presented that way.
Yet, that is what some wish for us to believe!

.... why do they think that way???

Thanks

Other than rightly dividing ..How do you think .? The giant thing twilight Zone, Outer Limits?

Sons of God Christians ( 1 John 3:1) they were there after the flood

The doctrine of do not be unevenly yoked did not end with the flood

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers [do not make mismated alliances with them or come under a different yoke with them, inconsistent with your faith]. For what partnership have right living and right standing with God with iniquity and lawlessness? Or how can light have fellowship with darkness?

Onan had no desire for the spiritual things of Christ. Esau sold his for a cup of hairy goat soup .

 

[GeneZ]

The reality is angels had hybrids with human women.

And, if hybrids were allowed to continue to expand and dominate as they were beginning to do?

Eventually.. all offspring would have been hybrids?
It would have prevented the "pedigree humanity" of mankind to continue, and to produce at the right time, the body for the Messiah to come into the world to die for only pedigree mankind.

For Jesus had to be the seed of the woman (human)!
If Satan's plan to mix fallen angels with humanity succeeded?
The Messiah could not come into the world as the Second Adam!

Thanks

Other than rightly dividing ..How do you think .? The giant thing twilight Zone, Outer Limits?

Sons of God Christians ( 1 John 3:1) they were there after the flood

The doctrine of do not be unevenly yoked did not end with the flood

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers [do not make mismated alliances with them or come under a different yoke with them, inconsistent with your faith]. For what partnership have right living and right standing with God with iniquity and lawlessness? Or how can light have fellowship with darkness?

Onan had no desire for the spiritual things of Christ. Esau sold his for a cup of hairy goat soup .

Sons of God were not in the flood.

Once they fornicated with women they lost their 'sons of God" status.
They instantly became fallen angels.


No fallen angels died in the water.
Their hybrid offspring died.

When the time for judgment had come, God simply grabbed the fallen angels and threw them into chains of darkness below the earth.

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Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered ​

his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who ​

did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these ​

he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. ​

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up ​

to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the ​

punishment of eternal fire." Jude 5-7​

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After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— to those ​

who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark ​

was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water." 1 Peter 3:19-20​

There we Go!​

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(Go ahead! ...Do your thing... I just took my Dramamine)​

 

[CrowCross]

And, if hybrids were allowed to continue to expand and dominate as they were beginning to do?

Eventually.. all offspring would have been hybrids?
It would have prevented the "pedigree humanity" of mankind to continue, and to produce at the right time, the body for the Messiah to come into the world to die for only pedigree mankind.

For Jesus had to be the seed of the woman (human)!
If Satan's plan to mix fallen angels with humanity succeeded?
The Messiah could not come into the world as the Second Adam!

I agree.

There is also the birthright issue. Man was given dominion over the earth....only Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David who has conquered can open the seal and regain it.

This is deep stuff.

 

[Mr GLee]

Sons of God were not in the flood.

Once they fornicated with women they lost their 'sons of God" status.
They instantly became fallen angels.

Sons of God born again believer were before and after the flood

Its clear whosoever is led by the Spirt of Christ are sons of God . No such thing as angels. the English translation of the Greek word Angelos is "sent messengers" the ones with the beautiful feet shod with the good news gospel(apostles)


There are two entities. Christ the Creator and mankind the creation as his apostles sent messengers. Sends the out two by two even today

sons of God.

Not be on the lookout of Giant serial rapist wanted dead or alive .

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:19For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

1 John 3:1-2 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not .Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

 

[GeneZ]

Sons of God born again believer were before and after the flood

Its clear whosoever is led by the Spirt of Christ are sons of God . No such thing as angels. the English translation of the Greek word Angelos is "sent messengers" the ones with the beautiful feet shod with the good news gospel(apostles)


There are two entities. Christ the Creator and mankind the creation as his apostles sent messengers. Sends the out two by two even today

sons of God.

Not be on the lookout of Giant serial rapist wanted dead or alive .

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:19For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

1 John 3:1-2 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not .Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

It's nice that you quote how Christians became sons of God.
But none of that was applicable to OT believers.

Why are only Christians to be called sons of God in the Church age? And, not in the OT?

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. ​

The ancient has passed away; behold, the new has come. 2 Cor 5:17​

The term "new creation?" It means something that is entirely new.
Something never seen before! Like the atomic bomb was entirely new!
We are not functioning as OT believers did. They did not become the New Creation in Christ!

Church age believers are having the permeant indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Not OT believers.
It is what makes us able to be sons of God when we are walking in the filling of the Spirit's power
controlling our flesh and minds... We do not have to be under Law for that reason!

But as many as received him, to them, he gave power to become the sons of God, ​

even to them that believe on his name. John 1:12​

We must learn how to be filled with the Spirit. All believers have this potential granted by God.

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Romans 8:14

OT believers did not have the permanently indwelling Holy Spirit! Only a few received enabling power coming from the outside, and very few only.

No man was called a son of God in the OT.

People who can't deal with the fact that angels had been created male and had the ability to have sex, blows their mind.
It destabilizes them, and must invent rationales to make the reality non-threatening to them.

But as many as received him, to them, he gave power to become the sons of God, ​

even to them that believe on his name. John 1:12​

That was written to the Church!
It never appears anywhere pertaining to the OT believer.
The only sons of God in the OT were angels, and it says so when it was angels!

grace and peace ................

 

[Mr GLee]

It's nice that you quote how Christians became sons of God.
But none of that was applicable to OT believers.

The doctrine a man must be born again began in the garden with Able a member of one bride (Church) of all the nations old and new

Church age believers are having the permeant indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Not OT believers.
It is what makes us able to be sons of God when we are walking in the filling of the Spirit's power
controlling our flesh and minds... We do not have to be under Law for that reason!

The same promise I will never leave or forsake. . belongs the bride of all nations

No man was called a son of God in the OT.

People who can't deal with the fact that angels had been created male and had the ability to have sex, blows their mind.
It destabilizes them, and must invent rationales to make the reality non-threatening to them.

People that confuse apostles sent messengers with the fake word angel try and convince other a invisible creation not spoken of .Not one word even to resemble a invisible creation .

No need for one. The apostles are sent with the gospel .

 

[GeneZ]

The doctrine a man must be born again began in the garden with Able a member of one bride (Church) of all the nations old and new.

It must be blissful for you...