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Are you born again ? Then here you are...

You must birthed in the Spirit / Born Again.to see the Kingdom of God.

Romans 8​

King James Version​

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Good ones also 1 cor 12:13
Gal 3:27
But especially need is 2 pet 1:11 in virtue of Jn 3:5
Cannot enter without born again and you cannot born again yourself it must be ministered unto you by the church
Thanks
 
Good ones also 1 cor 12:13
Gal 3:27
But especially need is 2 pet 1:11 in virtue of Jn 3:5
Cannot enter without born again and you cannot born again yourself it must be ministered unto you by the church
Thanks
Cos the church performs this?

Whose the church ?
 
Being born again is the entrance or initiation into the kingdom. Yes?
Actually, faith in the person and work of Jesus Christ is entrance into the kingdom, which is the result of the new birth.
 
Good ones also 1 cor 12:13
Gal 3:27
But especially need is 2 pet 1:11 in virtue of Jn 3:5
Cannot enter without born again and you cannot born again yourself it must be ministered unto you by the church
Thanks
In my Bible it says only the sovereign Holy Spirit gives the new birth, and his choice is as unaccountable as the wind (Jn 3:3-8).
 
Actually, faith in the person and work of Jesus Christ is entrance into the kingdom, which is the result of the new birth.
You can’t born again yourself anymore than you can born yourself!
 
In my Bible it says only the sovereign Holy Spirit gives the new birth, and his choice is as unaccountable as the wind (Jn 3:3-8).
Jn 3:5 water and the spirit

A sacrament is a promise of God a sacred oath acts 2:38-39

Heb 8:8 better sacraments
Lk 1:72
Acts 2:39 referring to ez 36:25-27
Acts 1:4
Acts 2:33
Acts 13:23
Acts 13:32
Acts 26:6
Acts 26:7
Rom 1:2
2 Tim 1:1-2
2 pet 1:4
1 Jn 2:25 and many more!
 
You can’t born again yourself anymore than you can born yourself!
Being birthed in the Spirit is the entrance to God’s Kingdom.

It’s a personal testimony/ experience...a supernatural one....you just post scripture...you never explain how you were birthed by God ...everyone has a personal testimony....and anyone can post scripture...that doesn’t make one Born again...

What do I mean when I say God’s word is “ Living “ how would you know that God’s word is Alive in Spirit?

Scripture below..how do you know God’s word is Alive and Active?

Hebrews 4:12​

New International Version​

12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
 
Jn 3:5 water and the spirit

A sacrament is a promise of God a sacred oath acts 2:38-39

Heb 8:8 better sacraments
Lk 1:72
Acts 2:39 referring to ez 36:25-27
Acts 1:4
Acts 2:33
Acts 13:23
Acts 13:32
Acts 26:6
Acts 26:7
Rom 1:2
2 Tim 1:1-2
2 pet 1:4
1 Jn 2:25 and many more!
Who saved you from eternal damnation? @donadams ?

Maybe you can also interpret scripture you keep posting?

Please interpret what you post here, thanks...
 
Good ones also 1 cor 12:13
Gal 3:27
But especially need is 2 pet 1:11 in virtue of Jn 3:5
Cannot enter without born again and you cannot born again yourself it must be ministered unto you by the church
Thanks
Ministered unto us by the church.?

i ask you again?

John 3:8​

King James Version​

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
 
How to be born again? Please explain
"How to be" implies something we do.

We have nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with it.
It is by sovereign choice of the Holy Spirit, based on nothing but his choice, which is as unaccountable as the wind (Jn 3:3-8).
Just as you had nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with your natural birth.
That is the testimony of the word of God in Jn 3:3-8.

The church, the sacraments, our parents, etc., etc., etc., neither govern, cause nor are related to the new birth.
The testimony of the NT is that it is a totally sovereign decision and act of the Holy Spirit (Jn 3:3-8) and not set in motion by anything.

You either believe Jn 3:3-8, or you don't.
 
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Being birthed in the Spirit is the entrance to God’s Kingdom.

It’s a personal testimony/ experience...a supernatural one....you just post scripture...you never explain how you were birthed by God ...everyone has a personal testimony....and anyone can post scripture...that doesn’t make one Born again...

What do I mean when I say God’s word is “ Living “ how would you know that God’s word is Alive in Spirit?

Scripture below..how do you know God’s word is Alive and Active?

Hebrews 4:12​

New International Version​

12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
Baptism is not an “emotional experience”!

Faith: an intellectual ascent to a truth revealed by God and proposed for belief by holy mother church!

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13) one faith (eph 4:5) the faith delivered to the apostles (Jude 1:3)
 
Ministered unto us by the church.?

i ask you again?

John 3:8​

King James Version​

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
2 pet 1:11 it is the church that has authority from Christ to administer the sacraments of grace instituted by Jesus Christ!


Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles! The apostles have the same mission, ministry, power, and authority as Christ! Jn 20:21 as the father sent me, so I send you!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
Jn 17:22 / rom 2:10 / 1 pet 1:7 Christ shares His glory with His saints!
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
Must hear church Matt 18:18
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
Acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles!
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1

The pillar and foundation of TRUTH!
1 Tim 3:15
Thanks
 
Good ones also 1 cor 12:13
Gal 3:27
But especially need is 2 pet 1:11 in virtue of Jn 3:5
Cannot enter without born again and you cannot born again yourself it must be ministered unto you by the church
Thanks
The "church" cannot make one born again. That is the work of God alone who gives the new birth. The church is not God, they are the people of God.
 
Being birthed in the Spirit is the entrance to God’s Kingdom.

It’s a personal testimony/ experience...a supernatural one....you just post scripture...you never explain how you were birthed by God ...everyone has a personal testimony....and anyone can post scripture...that doesn’t make one Born again...

What do I mean when I say God’s word is “ Living “ how would you know that God’s word is Alive in Spirit?

Scripture below..how do you know God’s word is Alive and Active?

Hebrews 4:12​

New International Version​

12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
A person who has a testimony of Jesus Christ is a martyr who died for Christ!
Thanks
 
A person who has a testimony of Jesus Christ is a martyr who died for Christ!
Thanks
So you don't have the testimony of Jesus Christ since you have not been killed for being a Christian. Good to know.
 
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